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Originally posted by Danowski
Well, I never thought we'd be talking about my people but here we go
Seems there are some good people left her, never thought of that. But the odd thing is, it's not the first time you hear such a story and just end up in scratching your head.
This garbage man (if someone could translate this with google, I am to stupid for this) found nearly $50.000 in the freaking trash!! and he gave it back. How did it end up in the trash? And old lady through it unintentionally away while cleaing up her place.
And also I don't think this person was involved with anything criminal. Again it was an old lady which forgot it in the bus. I think that's all to this story, went to the bank, picked up her life savings and forgot it in the freaking bus and it really fits with our old people.
Originally posted by lee anoma
Originally posted by jude11
And that's what he gets for his honesty? Nothing.
Should we pay people for being honest?
Doesn't that in a sense defeat the purpose?
He shouldn't be paid for turning in money that did not belong to him.
If he turned the money in because he felt it would be wrong to steal it then he should be satisfied that he didn't compromise his moral code.
If he turned it in because he was expecting someone to pay him for NOT stealing it, then he will definitely be disappointed in this case.
Personally I don't keep things I find that don't belong to me.
I try and return them to their owner without expectations.
- Lee
Originally posted by gunshooter
Originally posted by lee anoma
Originally posted by jude11
And that's what he gets for his honesty? Nothing.
Should we pay people for being honest?
Doesn't that in a sense defeat the purpose?
He shouldn't be paid for turning in money that did not belong to him.
If he turned the money in because he felt it would be wrong to steal it then he should be satisfied that he didn't compromise his moral code.
If he turned it in because he was expecting someone to pay him for NOT stealing it, then he will definitely be disappointed in this case.
Personally I don't keep things I find that don't belong to me.
I try and return them to their owner without expectations.
- Lee
My moral code is: if you leave half a mil on a bus you didn't deserve to keep it in the first place, it is now finders keepers. Hows that for moral code. Besides I would do plenty of good deeds with that money. Just because I would take it doesn't mean I would be selfish or greedy with it. A lot of people I know would get set up nicely
Originally posted by Danowski
reply to post by KilgoreTrout
Completely agree with you on the last part, that bus driver is a really good person, he also stated in an interview that he just wanted to give the lady her back and make her happy again.
But seriously, I don't see myself like such a good person as him. I'm trying to be but humanity is letting me too oft down in the last years.
Originally posted by Evil_Santa
So - because others have sacrificed their moral code, it's justification for you to sacrifice your own?
Originally posted by Evil_Santa
OP - if you wouldn't turn it in, then you're narcissistic, and i would bet that you have little empathy for others. What if that 500,000 was a life insurance pay-out and all an elderly individual has to live off of for the rest of their life?
I was actually in a similar situation many years ago, where I purchased a car and later found a $150,000 check tucked under the overhead visor. I knew the owner, and who the check was too, and knew that they had a brain injury which affected their memory, so keeping the check/fake-id/cashing it was a definite option, but I called him up, informed him of the finding and then gave it to him later that day. As suspected, due to his brain injury - he just forgot about the check. Regardless, it was an insurance payout due to the accident which caused said injury and was payment for medical expenses.
OP - again, you're a bad person.
Originally posted by jude11
Ok,
Call me what you want but would I turn it in? Nope, nada, Hell no!
Originally posted by lee anoma
Originally posted by Vasa Croe
Totally agree....that amount of cash was most likely being used for something underhanded.
Either way...bus driver should have kept it....
So let me get this straight.
You and a few others acknowledge the possibility that this could be "blood/drug money" made through illicit activities and probably belonged to a criminal(s)...and so the bus driver should keep it?
How is he any different then?
Stealing and spending money stolen from criminals means...you guessed it...you just benefited from the crimes that made the money!
This reminds me of the former police officer from Florida on death-row for robbing and murdering drug dealers. His defense was that they were scum and didn't deserve to live.
Meanwhile his lifestyle was bankrolled off of the crimes of that same scum.
Very weak justification in my opinion.
- Lee
Originally posted by SevenThunders
Originally posted by jude11
Ok,
Call me what you want but would I turn it in? Nope, nada, Hell no!
And this my friends is why Western civilization is spiraling down into the abyss. You see what made us great was that as long as we followed God and the Bible we were good. A moral society is a great society to live in. People help each other out and are concerned about others. Business deals are fair, cheaters are few. Property rights were respected and someone who worked hard could reasonably expect to be well rewarded for their efforts, and moreover it was possible to save for one's personal needs or for investing in new technology or taking on risk.
However now this is not the case. Oligarchs rule, the capital markets can't be trusted. Patents are stolen by rich monopolies and inventors are left with nothing. You can not accumulate wealth safely because property can be stolen by the government, or you can be robbed or swindled by thieves with no conscience or morals.
Your attitude also shows that you are utterly Godless. You apparently must believe that God wouldn't notice if you stole from someone, no matter what the value is. You know outside of God's protection and blessings a lot of bad things can happen that money can not fix.edit on 7-12-2012 by SevenThunders because: spelling
What I would do is wait and search to find out who lost it. Drug dealers? Nope. Wealthy individual? Nope. Government employee of any sort...definitely never. If I found that it was destined for a good cause...ok.
Originally posted by imawlinn
reply to post by Evil_Santa
It wouldn't be stealing, it's finding. There's a difference. If you're stupid enough to travel with that much money without an armed guard and a briefcase handcuffed to your arm, and then you're stupid enough to leave it set on the bus, then your money is better off with me.
Originally posted by imawlinn
reply to post by Evil_Santa
It wouldn't be stealing, it's finding. There's a difference. If you're stupid enough to travel with that much money without an armed guard and a briefcase handcuffed to your arm, and then you're stupid enough to leave it set on the bus, then your money is better off with me.edit on 7-12-2012 by imawlinn because: (no reason given)