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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by randyvs
What if "universe" means "one vibration", as in, one level of being? This universe is "this one level of being in specific".
I don't KNOW anything about the limitations you seem to be placing on levels AI. I'm clearly only referring to the word and all that is captured with in. If you're saying the universe is the limit for existence? Well, that's your interpretation. Not seeing how you could arrive at such a conclusion, I suppose I would have to disagree.
The universe being a closed system would have to be closed from something, wouldn't you say?
But the universe being one vibration ? Can't call it.
Not really. If a spiral staircase as a hundred different landings or floors it stops off at, none of those floors are closed off to each other. They're just distinct. And they're all part of the spiral journey.
So would you say then that there are many different levels of existence in the universe? I think you would, I mean I would. Not sure where this is taking us but I'm game so far. You are a pantheist if I'm not mistaken ? Not to critisize , just asking.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by randyvs
...Are you toying with me?
Originally posted by PassiveObserver
Wise man say:
Man who stands on back of toilet. Is high on pot.
Originally posted by littled16
Originally posted by PassiveObserver
Wise man say:
Man who stands on back of toilet. Is high on pot.
Wise man also says:
Girl who flips bicycle upside-down have crack-up.
Originally posted by interupt42
reply to post by smithjustinb
There are plenty of absolute truth.
1. If you where born you will die.
2. Until you die and even then you might not know what the after live truly entails if anything.
3. Reality is what an individual perceives, normality is what groups perceive.
4. The more you learn the more you become to realize of your infinite lack of knowledge.
Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by smithjustinb
Is all one or is all separate? Is the universe trillions of individual units or is it one universe?
I found the first line in this minimal thread to be redundant. Saying one universe over emphasizes. It's like saying God spoke the one universe into one existence with one word. Why say all that when we have the word UNIVERSE ?
I'm in full agreement with itsnowagain.edit on 6-12-2012 by randyvs because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by interupt42
reply to post by smithjustinb
There are plenty of absolute truth.
1. If you where born you will die.
2. Until you die and even then you might not know what the after live truly entails if anything.
3. Reality is what an individual perceives, normality is what groups perceive.
4. The more you learn the more you become to realize of your infinite lack of knowledge.
None of these statements are absolute.
An absolute truth, sometimes called a universal truth, is an unalterable and permanent fact.
www.wisegeek.com...
Originally posted by 1beerplease
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Is all one or is all separate? Is the universe trillions of individual units or is it one universe? The answer is subjective. It depends on your perspective. You can say you are separate and be correct for you, but your determination is not absolute.
The only thing that is absolute is that we exist. Any definition beyond that is a creation of the mind. Albeit, not always insubstantial. Nevertheless, in absolute terms, untrue.
Therefore, shh. Don't define at all. Just watch.
All is one, and one is all. in other words EVERYTHING came from the one source, the one source is everything.
Our universe is merely an outcome that is possible. try and think of different universes that are governed by different 'laws', if you thought of it, its possible, and probably to your logic improbable... but all that is IS infinite and anything possible in infinity will happen infinitely.
Yes, perspective is key. you all don't realise how powerful you all are, you are connected to the most distant star in the galaxy, ALL is ONE, and ONE is ALL.
The only thing 'untrue', is trying to understand what does not exist.
Oh, and don't just watch! you're here to define and put meaning to the meaningless. Nothing has built in meaning, its your job to provide that.edit on 6-12-2012 by 1beerplease because: (no reason given)
As much sense as it makes to not define the world because all definitions are subjective, it seems that subjectivity is inescapable. This makes me wonder if we are, in fact, supposed to be some kind of Co creative Gods.
If this is the case, then I imagine a scenario where there is a prime creator who is really in control, but uses our own creative abilities to do its bidding. We have a front row seat in watching it all play out while maintaining the illusion that we are in complete control. In this scenario, finding peace would not be done through "just watching", although that would have to still be part of it to some extent. But, you would also need to take full responsibility for the world you create for yourself and learn how to live in it and be at peace with it.
I kind of agree with you, but am reluctant to go that route because of the suffering it has caused, or should I say, the suffering I have caused myself.
I guess the pain and suffering would come from creating pain and suffering, or creating something that you think will help you but actually causes pain and suffering.
Originally posted by interupt42
reply to post by smithjustinb
So its not an absolute truth (fact) that , If you where born you will die?
An absolute truth, sometimes called a universal truth, is an unalterable and permanent fact.
www.wisegeek.com...
Yet, you consider existence an absolute? Where were you before you existed and do you exist for infinity or do you consider you existence to eventually end? Maybe you can clear it up for me on why existence is the only absolute?
edit on 6-12-2012 by interupt42 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
And there you have an absolute truth - a circle has no ending or beginning. Just like the divine principle.
If their is no ending or beginning then does it exist ? A circle at one time did have a starting point and an end point either-wise it would not have ever been a circle?
A circle you can also see and touch, but can you see and touch a divine principle? So if the divine principle never had a beginning or an ending and you can't see, touch, or communicate with it does it exist?