Obelisks/divide from God as Porn/divide man from woman

www.yrm.org...

During the Middle Ages steeples evolved into more than ornamental expressions of pagan cultures gone by, they doubled as a place for church bells. By the 15th century most churches had steeples with bells, which were rung every hour and to proclaim religious ceremonies and holidays. The mother of the modern church, the Roman Catholic Church, adopted an Egyptian pagan obelisk and placed a cross on its peak. This imagery should send chills down the spines of churchgoers everywhere, as this is where most of today’s churches stem from through the Protestant Reformation.

I was reading the above article, and I was thinking about how pornography divides man and woman from a pure relationship these days, and causes disrespect towards each other instead of a pure loving relationship.

It is one of the best divide and concur methods of TPTB.

40-50 years ago you could still have romance and chivelry, woman still blushed swooned and "stood by their man", despite what the womans libbers seemed to think, they had it made, win/win, except for the odd chauvinistic creep who treated his wife as a slave or chattel, which was not the majority, but in fact rare from what I can see....

This divide spread and influenced wives who were treated nothing less than a complete princess,start to think they were lacking, before this garbage she was a queen, which in turn made her treat her husband as the king he was..... beautiful, romantic, satisfying, the thing we are alllll missing today.

When you look at religion, the lies and baloney in there did the same thing to opur relationship with our creator.

Took this loving innocence and tarnished it with me/me lies, and leave us all empty etc.

I will add more once my fuming dies down a bit.... I am steaming mad! lol...

obelisk's
and their misunderstanding

ancient use....perhaps as simple as sundial and engineering Surveying Rod
perhaps other more advanced use
energy receiving stations too?

religions and mind distortion has plagued us long enough

pryamids
used by the same advanced civilization
are amazing machines waiting to be fully understood

pyramids are bad too as in if worshiped?
could simple use be so construed to worship

When you understand that many people worship the phallus as a "god" and androgyny as an ideal, then you will come to understand why it's adherents - our leaders - are stripping the knowledge of Our Lord Jesus Christ from every facet of society - law, family, schools etc. Their religious ideal holds that adrogynous homosexual man is the shaman and priest. As they work fervently to obliterate the words 'husband and wife" and "mother and father" from every institution, both reminders of creation, the populace just does not understand that paganistic spirituality rules the hearts of our earthly rulers. Porn, feminism and the like holds up their ideals of 'liberation' from the rule of Christ Jesus and into the rule of their perverted image of "Christ", the son of perdition....the coming of their adrogynous 'Adam Kadmon' - who floods the dogmas of Freemasonry, Kaballahism, Islamic Shi'ite, New Age, etc. and ties into the "global unity/consciousness" movement.

Here's quite a good summary
"Androgyny: The Pagan Sexual Ideal"
www.fpcjackson.org...

reply to post by WhoKnows100


Yeah, Gods sons name isn't even Jesus Christ, it is Yashauh the Messiah.

If my enemy made up a false name for me I would be peeved hearing it.....

Like say someone stole your wife or husband, then gave you a new mocking nickname, would you answer to it?
Probably not.....

I would shudder every time I heard it...

reply to post by lasvegasteddy


No friggin doubt eh!

What a bunch of crap, TBTB really want us in the dark to take away our right to love,joy,peace etc.... because they know these things give us the most power in the universe.

Afterall, if the creator is LOVE, and we have LOVE..... then we have a power that cannot be challenged!




Now I need to work hella hard on the love part in my life.

No more distractions! lol.....

I gotta get it in my head!

The symbolic version of the phallus, a phallic symbol is meant to represent male generative powers. According to Sigmund Freud's theory of psychoanalysis, while males possess a penis, no one can possess the symbolic phallus. Jacques Lacan's Ecrits: A Selection includes an essay titled The Significance of the Phallus which articulates the difference between "being" and "having" the phallus. Men are positioned as men insofar as they are seen to have the phallus. Women, not having the phallus, are seen to "be" the phallus. The symbolic phallus is the concept of being the ultimate man, and having this is compared to having the divine gift of God.

I was rather curious as to why the link that was provided led to the title of the OP. Three sentences mention phallic symbols and church steeples. I am not a big fan of psychoanalysis so I tend to push Freudian ideas aside (Cognitive therapy is a better approach in my opinion).

There was so much more that was talked about in that article other than phallic symbols. How exactly did that lead to an OP title referring to porn and a few thoughts about the roles of the genders? I'd rather not have to ponder Freudian ideas about fixation. Care to fill me in?

Yet another bunch of bunk here....

www.naturalgod.com...

It is utterly impossible to keep Sunday or Friday holy as Yahweh never first made them holy; and man has no power to make anything holy! What Yahweh commanded to remember, rebellious man resorts to every argument of human reason to justify forgetting. If the 10 Commandments were abolished at the stake, then there is no law. With no law, there is no transgression. Hence no one has sinned since the stake, therefore we don't need a Saviour. Paul plainly clarifies this in Romans 4:15. Yahweh stated the Sabbaths were a perpetual covenant, special to Him - that we shall "keep it holy" and He explains why a little further on in Exodus 31:13; "for it is a sign between me and throughout your generations: that ye may know that I am Yahweh that doth sanctify you". Yahweh commanded, "throughout your generations" to keep the Sabbath as "a sign" between Yahweh's people and Yahweh. The Hebrew word "owth" is translated "sign" and means a flag, beacon, monument or other identifying mark or symbol. In other words it is an "identity" or "identifying sign" between Yahweh and His people in perpetuity - forever. This "sign" announces two things - "...that ye may know that I am Yahweh that doth sanctify you". First, it is the sign by which we may know that He is Yahweh - it identifies Yahweh. But doesn't everyone know who Yahweh is? Absolutely not! The Bible says this whole world is deceived (Rev. 12:9). This world has a god - a false god - Satan, who pretends to be an "angel of light" (II Cor. 11:14-15). He has his deceived ministers of "righteousness", his many religious organizations, and false "faiths", most of which are professing Christians (II Cor 11:14-15) as well as Buddhists, Shintoists, Confucian's, Communists, New Age Universal Force/Power thinkers, etc.

This one makes me think again..... (cause as you can tell I have been harshly cheated on, lol)

What if I spent a HUGE amount of time and effort putting together an AWESOME party for everyone I love, put my ALL into it........

Then, at the last minute, my worst enemy, told everyone, "Oh, the party has been changed to THIS day and address instead!'

So everyone goes and enjoys this huge party I planned and paid for, EXCEPT me, because they had it the day before or after, and my ex, or the house wrecker, got all the fun and glory for this great party instead, while I sat home all alone after all of my hard work, planning and love that went into setting up for this party...

My ex and the house wrecker are now the talk of the town, everyone going on and on about "their" great party in front of me.......

How horrid would THAT be???

Thank goodness some of my true friends noticed I wasn't there though, so even though my enemies took over the grand party, my true and closest friends will start hanging out with me again, because to THEM, the party was empty without me there.


I am on a reading rampage tonight, lol.

reply to post by mellisamouse

ahh. This post explains it.

I am sorry about your lost relationship. I do understand the pain involved. It does make a person question so much about life and about themselves.

Originally posted by mellisamouse
www.yrm.org...

During the Middle Ages steeples evolved into more than ornamental expressions of pagan cultures gone by, they doubled as a place for church bells. By the 15th century most churches had steeples with bells, which were rung every hour and to proclaim religious ceremonies and holidays. The mother of the modern church, the Roman Catholic Church, adopted an Egyptian pagan obelisk and placed a cross on its peak. This imagery should send chills down the spines of churchgoers everywhere, as this is where most of today’s churches stem from through the Protestant Reformation.

This is a nonsense. Everywhere? The bulk of British churchgoers from the Anglo-Saxon conversion process through to the 1700s or even 1800s wouldn't have known what an obelisk was, or what it might have represented. Their understanding of Egypt would have have been laughably limited due to the lack of access to bibles (which would have been the only real reference to Egypt any non-scholar would have ever come across. The obelisk that stood near Manchester's market (my nearest city) until the early 1800s was typically used as a meeting place and an outdoor toilet - hardly spine-chilling stuff.

Originally posted by NiteNGale2
reply to post by mellisamouse

 

ahh. This post explains it.

I am sorry about your lost relationship. I do understand the pain involved. It does make a person question so much about life and about themselves.

edit on 1-12-2012 by NiteNGale2 because: (no reason given)

Thank you! Yes, it is a betrayal that felt like it took all of my hope and innocence away.

I want that back, and I want a PURE relationship again, one of true love, and puppy love mixed like a first love.

I find it is impossible when everyone is on this new porn rampage..... how could I feel like me with someone comparing me to all these fakes people?

I want to be with someone who has eyes for me only, and me for him....

(I am may be a lil old school) lol

reply to post by Merriman Weir


I think you are missing the point.......

all around..... everywhere.... has nothing to do with the point.

That would be like saying, since there are only a FEW hidden cameras spying on the public, that that is ok, because in that place they don't spy on you "everywhere".......

Right is right and wrong is wrong, no matter how "condensed" the wrong is....

Having a million spy cameras in one spot isnt more of a violation that just the ONE attempting to spy on ME!

Wrong is wrong!

reply to post by mellisamouse

I think that Merriman has a grasp of the era and of the available knowledge. Phallic symbols are a modern concept.

Originally posted by NiteNGale2
reply to post by mellisamouse

 

I think that Merriman has a grasp of the era and of the available knowledge. Phallic symbols are a modern concept.

I am not talking about back then though, I am talking about the divisions between men and women today and the parallel, and they ARE everywhere TODAY....

One clippet talking about when it BEGAN.... does not dismiss the fact of how it has spread and the churches of today cause a division between the creator and people..... an easy fix..... the same way porn does between men and women..... another easy fix.....

Why put anything into a relationship when you can just look at a bunch of skanks online who tickle your ears and show you and tell you whatever you want? Just like religion today.... why search for a real relationship with your creator when you can go to some church and have your ears tickled and do whatever you want without any commitment or real dedication?

That point to me is a pretty clear parallel...

reply to post by mellisamouse


porn and porn shows have been around forever, since the first prostitute charged for her time, and since the first porn artist started making sketches, this happened aloongggg time ago. the only difference now is we have
film instead of pics and live shows(which also are still around)

Originally posted by DocHolidaze
reply to post by mellisamouse

 

porn and porn shows have been around forever, since the first prostitute charged for her time, and since the first porn artist started making sketches, this happened aloongggg time ago. the only difference now is we have
film instead of pics and live shows(which also are still around)

Yes but on a LARGE scale, in every home on every computer there is potential access..... in the past only an elite and shady would seek out and have this access, tarnishing their relationships etc.

IMHO.....

reply to post by mellisamouse




There isn't a new porn rampage. Porn has always existed from the time that humans were inclined to debate and "some people say" that we are are able to recognize it even though we lack the ability to define it. Mankind will always debate that issue.

Those people that you feel you are being compared to are fake. Paid actors. It is sad when a person feels that they are expected to perform like actors.

This is a rather sensitive subject if I understand what your post is about. If I do understand, then I would like to impress upon you that change does take time. Many of us had role models that emulated "old school" and/or we saw the struggles to adapt. Our generation is struggling to find the new norm that is true to our natures.

Men and women have new roles. I do have many thoughts about his topic as it is one that has been discussed heavily elsewhere but this isn't the type of forum where it is prudent to break it down.

Don't take blame for the end of a troubled relationship with a person who used pornography as a standard is what I want to get across. Self-awareness is another goal to strive for.

Hugs.

reply to post by mellisamouse


??????????? ever heard of a old school whore house(the worlds oldest profession)? anybody with enough coppers could be treated to a show rich or poor. you say every house has access to porn. but in reality every household leader/leadersallow or do not allow porn in the house. it is sad that most households do not take the steps to make sure porn is not seen within there household. whomever is against porn should take it upon themselves to eradicate it from there everyday lies, and not blame it on an industry that is based on debauchery. if you do blame the industry do you really think these company's are gonna stop because some thinks its inappropriate. no one has been able to stop porn since day one!

Originally posted by WhoKnows100
When you understand that many people worship the phallus as a "god" and androgyny as an ideal, then you will come to understand why it's adherents - our leaders - are stripping the knowledge of Our Lord Jesus Christ from every facet of society - law, family, schools etc. Their religious ideal holds that adrogynous homosexual man is the shaman and priest. As they work fervently to obliterate the words 'husband and wife" and "mother and father" from every institution, both reminders of creation, the populace just does not understand that paganistic spirituality rules the hearts of our earthly rulers. Porn, feminism and the like holds up their ideals of 'liberation' from the rule of Christ Jesus and into the rule of their perverted image of "Christ", the son of perdition....the coming of their adrogynous 'Adam Kadmon' - who floods the dogmas of Freemasonry, Kaballahism, Islamic Shi'ite, New Age, etc. and ties into the "global unity/consciousness" movement.

Here's quite a good summary
"Androgyny: The Pagan Sexual Ideal"
www.fpcjackson.org...

I would be interested in knowing how Adam Kadmon figures into this. If you read this verse:

1 Colossians 1: 15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

You get the sense that we are all cut from one soul. Further reading in different books reveals the same idea.

1 Corinthians 10

And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ? 17 Because there is one loaf, we, who are many, are one body, for we all share the one loaf.

Adam Kadmon is the idea that one stamp is used as the seal for all of the clay. From Adam, all of humanity comes. From the Son, we all share one image. Genesis 1 is the Image created by the Elohim and then Genesis 2 is that image being used (WORD) to express all the trees from the one acorn (so to speak).

I have trouble understanding your connection to the lie of Mystery School Babylon and the Homosexual agenda. The idea that God split the first human from a combined nature is not a new idea, but it has no connection that I have ever read to the homosexual agenda. If anything, the agenda of the left is based on denial of God rather than embracing the fringe of esoteric belief. Theosophy has a definite influence on the Freemason, but this comes from embracing the hunter (Taking) rather than the farmer (Giver). When Jesus said, "Jacob (Farmer) have I loved and Esau (Hunter) have I hated, the aim was at the will of mankind. God's will is to give and receive only. Man is the thief that takes. This applies to knowledge.

It may be true that the agenda of the left has taken an idea from our understanding of Adam, but this is not an implication that the understanding we have of God is incorrect. Father and Son imply that Holy Spirit is female. This can be seen in many writings, but clearly understood by the fact that the Holy Spirit is the last to be revealed.

2 Days -Adam to Abraham 2000 Years of Age 1 (FATHER)
2 Days -Abraham to Jesus 2000 Years of Age 2 (SON)
2 Days -Jesus to Today 2000 Years of Age 3 (HOLY SPIRIT)
1 Day -Day of Rest (Day of the Lord) 1000 years (SALVATION)
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7 Days (7000 years - Approximately 6000 have passed)

Genesis 6:3 states that mankind has 120 jubilees of 50 years before the Holy Spirit is given to us.

120 X 50 = 6000. The Father was known when Abraham reached the end of the Age. The Son was known when Jesus revealed it at the end of the Age. The mother will be revealed at the end of this age. Perhaps this is the biggest secret they wish to hide from us.

In Freemasonry, we see Osiris, Isis and Horus as the myth of creation. This triangle forms the foundation of the Freemason triangle. It represents Father, Mother and Son. Moses was given the unwritten Torah as well as the written. Locked within this written document, we have the unwritten document locked in symbolism. History reveals the true nature of this over time. It's a mystery for sure, but I don't think it is a truth held by any of us yet. Christ comes to reveal all things.

Anyway, I didn't mean to derail. You peeked my interest.

Originally posted by DocHolidaze
reply to post by mellisamouse

 

??????????? ever heard of a old school whore house(the worlds oldest profession)? anybody with enough coppers could be treated to a show rich or poor. you say every house has access to porn. but in reality every household leader/leadersallow or do not allow porn in the house. it is sad that most households do not take the steps to make sure porn is not seen within there household. whomever is against porn should take it upon themselves to eradicate it from there everyday lies, and not blame it on an industry that is based on debauchery. if you do blame the industry do you really think these company's are gonna stop because some thinks its inappropriate. no one has been able to stop porn since day one!

It has nothing to do with the industry, it is the attitude...

Access or not..... it could be on every street corner, and you could still find a loyal true love, someone who would feel defiled to look at anyone but his beloved wife.

I am talking about the loyalties being broken down here as is clear by the responses in this thread.

It is ACCEPTABLE to such a point now, that someone like ME, who wants something pure back, is some freak who the rest want to convert....

Nope, I want a pure love or nothing....

Originally posted by EnochWasRight


Anyway, I didn't mean to derail. You peeked my interest.

Ditto, lol....

I have to look into some of that stuff now, had no idea of a homosexual agenda....