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I will never understand why a future educator at any level of schooling is able to teach after 4 years of b.s. classes (b.s. does not stand for bachelor of sciences if you catch my drift), while any kind of doctor requires 8+ years of schooling (not just medical doctors). If educators were required more schooling before they were able teach our children, the future of this world would be looking much more radiant and vibrant than what it currently looks like.
Originally posted by ProperlyErrant
reply to post by silent thunder
I know my education at the University was inexplicably irreplaceable. I gained an extremely important set of knowledge and experiences.
That being said, considering this thread topic, and everything else, especially the real unemployment rate and the soon-to-be retired folks, yea....
we're #ed.edit on 27-11-2012 by ProperlyErrant because: (no reason given)
indeed but let me ask you one question, would it have been a better for you if you didn't have to gain useless credits to graduate?
Originally posted by samkent
reply to post by LittleBlackEagle
indeed but let me ask you one question, would it have been a better for you if you didn't have to gain useless credits to graduate?
To a point yes. But many of those classes lead to a better rounded person.
Someone who can speak with confidence and without slang.
Someone who can read and write in complete sentances with proper spelling and punctuation. (said with a smile)
How would you feel to see a Boeing manual witten with testing shortcuts and misspellings?
How would you feel to find that your doctor doesn't know what communisim is?
What if all the sales people in a new car dealership looked like Ashton Kutcher in torn T-shirts?
College puts a polish on an individual.
Those extra credits suck but many people need them. Especially those comming from community college.
Originally posted by rickymouse
reply to post by LittleBlackEagle
I remember a few years back when hospitals helped their employees to take classes while they worked to expand their education and get better work. Same with companies like AT&T. These were good programs but were often misused by employees, as soon as they graduated they went work somewhere else that paid a few cents more. No loyalty to an employer who goes out of their way to help their employees learn more. I guess greed is everywhere within all classes of people.
In my state you have 4 years to get your masters after you start your teaching job. But you have fallen into the trap of believing that better educated and better paid teachers produces a better outcome with the students. Why is it that they (news, parents, teacher unions) never put any responsibility on the student? I'd better qualify this statement. The unions spout we need to pay the teachers more to get the best teachers until after the contract is signed. Then when a school rating issue comes up it's not the teachers it's the supplies and equipment shortage. They never mention the gang banging dorks that sleep in class and just don't give a #hit.
Originally posted by Happy1
reply to post by SmoothRhythm
I have to respond to this. It's a family joke, my brother-in-law is a college educated "shop" teacher, but he can't fix his own car. My "uneducated" husband has to do it for him. He can't even change the oil.
Originally posted by jefwane
You know what amazes me is how few people recognize the causal link between student loans and skyrocketing education costs.