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Originally posted by supergravity
The idea that harrp can accelerate plasma is in angels dont play that harrp. OOOh NO not that book you will say ,but there is a lot of info on design of harrp.
Originally posted by supergravity
Do you agree that x-rays at high levels will kill a person?If you cant understand that there is nothing to talk about.
This is not a fantastic statement it is fact. Then there are gamma rays,alpha rays, etc.
I guess you guys dont believe those exist ?
Originally posted by supergravity
reply to post by mikellmikell
My understanding is that it is multi national.
Originally posted by luxordelphi
Everybody but MSM and some on ATS agree that HAARP is a weapon. Why else would the risky business of burning holes in the ionosphere go on?
HAARP's PR director seems to think that HAARP is some kind of new age plasma art form, but, he's in the minority among those in the know. HAARP, from what I've read, concentrates more wallop into a square centimeter than the sun. It also concentrates this beam on the inside of the ionosphere which, it would seem, should make a difference. Then there are the non-linear attributes of the ionosphere to consider.
The case of a weaponized HAARP was argued by the late Dr. Rosalie Bertell who wrote: “…the nonlinear effects of one billion watts of effective radiated power being directed at the ionosphere by the HAARP transmitter [is overwhelming]. This is the first phase capability of the project. The second phase will increase the effective radiated power levels even further—to 4.7 billion watts!!!11!!
In your second link, Carl Sagan is quoted as saying that, in essence, our ignorance of HAARP, as an example of current technology, will not save us.
The frequency following response (FFR) is a phenomenon that means the brain will try to follow the frequency it is presented. If HAARP presents a 7Hz wave, the brain will try to mimic that. This idea is discussed in the 1995 paper ‘Electromagnetic Induction of Fundamental Algorithims’ by MA Persinger.
...the MSM and most ATSers can't accurately tell you how GPS works...
HAARP is beyond what the average layman can easily understand...
The atmospheric science end of it is very very eggheaded and while I find it interesting, it's not my cup of tea.
It might be more accurate to say, he's in the minority of an assortment of people who are in general scientifically illterate.
Ah, yes, the epidemiologist. She ought to know all about physics, you betcha.
Except no-one can replicate what Persinger says. So he's sort of lost any credibility.
Originally posted by luxordelphi
Kind of full of it (opinions on everyone), aren't you.
Originally posted by luxordelphi
reply to post by Gidonb4IN
OP: interesting links. Everybody but MSM and some on ATS agree that HAARP is a weapon. Why else would the risky business of burning holes in the ionosphere go on? HAARP's PR director seems to think that HAARP is some kind of new age plasma art form, but, he's in the minority among those in the know. HAARP, from what I've read, concentrates more wallop into a square centimeter than the sun. It also concentrates this beam on the inside of the ionosphere which, it would seem, should make a difference. Then there are the non-linear attributes of the ionosphere to consider.
HAARP Unleashes Tesla Death Ray
The case of a weaponized HAARP was argued by the late Dr. Rosalie Bertell who wrote: “…the nonlinear effects of one billion watts of effective radiated power being directed at the ionosphere by the HAARP transmitter [is overwhelming]. This is the first phase capability of the project. The second phase will increase the effective radiated power levels even further—to 4.7 billion watts!
In your second link, Carl Sagan is quoted as saying that, in essence, our ignorance of HAARP, as an example of current technology, will not save us.
Holes In Heaven? HAARP and Advances in Tesla Technology
The late Carl Sagan said (which is related to this documentary): We’ve arranged a global civilization in which most crucial elements profoundly depend on science and technology. We’ve also arranged things so that almost no one understands science or technology. We might get away with it for a while, but sooner or later, this combustible mixture of ignorance and power is going to blow up in our faces.
And your third link speaks to why we seem oblivious:
Hurricane Sandy and HAARP
The frequency following response (FFR) is a phenomenon that means the brain will try to follow the frequency it is presented. If HAARP presents a 7Hz wave, the brain will try to mimic that. This idea is discussed in the 1995 paper ‘Electromagnetic Induction of Fundamental Algorithims’ by MA Persinger. Persinger is an expert on the mind and he said that it is possible to create a signal that hyper-agitates people and creates anxiety. The media could work in conjunction with this to play on that anxiety and release fear based content to directly agitate the people’s anxiety. One can see that if you wanted to push through some sort of legislation, you could use fear and HAARP to do this (David Icke’s Problem-Reaction-Solution).
it transmitts 3.6 Mw - about 1/300'th of 1 billion.....
HAARP is beyond what the average layman can easily understand...
Originally posted by luxordelphi
The thread, imo, is about HAARP as a weapon; not a kind of rag on anyone and everyone free-for-all.
my unicorn spirit guide told me that experts that buy their diplomas for less than $1000 may be trying to make money from the credulous
Originally posted by luxordelphi
I don't really understand your post. Specifically, I don't understand where your information comes from. Also, if you can't explain something in layman's terms, as Bedlam said we (you, me & Bedlam) are not going to get anywhere.
Originally posted by Happy1
reply to post by Bedlam
If anyone had topsecret info from the gov't on what they had, or were trying out, and posted said info on a conspiracy site, they'd be picked up and gotten rid of.
You don't know what they're really doing. None of us do. But, I bet, it's not for the good of the people living on this earth right now.
The case of a weaponized HAARP was argued by the late Dr. Rosalie Bertell who wrote: “…the nonlinear effects of one billion watts of effective radiated power being directed at the ionosphere by the HAARP transmitter [is overwhelming]. This is the first phase capability of the project. The second phase will increase the effective radiated power levels even further—to 4.7 billion watts!
“Energy in certain frequencies when reaching the outermost portions of the ionosphere can be amplified up to 1,000 times by natural processes. This phenomena has been recorded by scientists at UCLA who have observed the results of these power amplifications at a fraction of the power level which HAARP will transfer to this region. This is extremely important in considering what may occur with this level of energy. A serious environmental disaster may well be the result.”
Originally posted by luxordelphi
Fascinating as diesel engines are, I'm thinking this was not the death ray that Tesla described. (I'm going to ignore your shell game for the moment.)
Here then are the quotes from the article that go beyond diesel into the non-linear ionosphere (one centimeter at a time). So while you talk about power output on the ground, the ionosphere has different ideas. Also, you're not saying anything about modulating or concentrating the beam. Also, you're not talking about ELF generation on the wrong side of the ionosphere. HAARP is not a diesel engine. Nor is it a radio frequency generator. It's an ionospheric heater.
The case of a weaponized HAARP was argued by the late Dr. Rosalie Bertell who wrote: “…the nonlinear effects of one billion watts of effective radiated power being directed at the ionosphere by the HAARP transmitter [is overwhelming]. This is the first phase capability of the project. The second phase will increase the effective radiated power levels even further—to 4.7 billion watts!
“Energy in certain frequencies when reaching the outermost portions of the ionosphere can be amplified up to 1,000 times by natural processes...
(I think in that last quote they're talking about things like the islands that disappeared as pictured in the article.)
Originally posted by Gidonb4IN
HAARP Unleashes Tesla Death Ray
awe.sm
(visit the link for the full news article)
Disturbing evidence is emerging that HAARP has been weaponized. Noted Brazilian physicist, Dr. Fran De Aquino, recently asserted the fully functional HAARP network is not only modifying weather and geophysical events, it may also be warping space and gravity—even time! Now applications of Nikola Tesla’s legendary “Death Ray” weapon may have been activated.
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Originally posted by Happy1
I am not trying to insult your intelligence. I have very little understanding of your specialty, but
Is this whole pyramid crap, just crap? Same with Tesla "free energy"?
Again, I'm asking, not trying to insult.