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posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 10:04 AM
Women in Afghanistan 1967 and 2011

Photos like this are being spread across the internet lately, and they are dangerous for a few reasons. If you’re too lazy to read below; basically ignorant Americans are getting their jingoist boots on and blaming ‘Towel heads’ and ‘Sand n*ggers’, overseas governments, and the Islamic religion for problems that were actually directly and INTENTIONALLY instigated by Western superpowers and their allies.

Firstly, here’s a brief history lesson on Afghanistan.

From 1933 until 1973, Afghanistan was ruled under a man named Mohammed Zahir Shah. While he was a devout Muslim, he had a Western education in France.His reign marked four decades of peace and stability.
With the introduction of a constitution Afghanistan progressively developed into a modern democratic state with free elections and a parliament, as well as a massive push for women’s rights, universal suffrage, education, worker’s rights, and civil rights.
So yes, Afghanistan was doing well in the 60’s as this photo suggests. However, the photo doesn’t provide the contextual explanation for what went wrong within their society.

During this period in time the Soviet Union also had a strong influence in Afghanistan. They supported modernization and education in the Afghan state.

The United States, not wanting to risk their hegemony in the region, clearly had a major problem with this.

They were terrified of the spread of Communism and quickly developed a plan. Afghanistan would become the Cold War’s chessboard. In the late 80’s, the Saudis, Pakistanis, and the Americans brought in radical Islamists from around the world.
They armed, trained, and directed them into a militant force, and they were called the Mujahideen. They became the US’ main offense against the Soviets.
It wasn’t to defend the Afghans against the Soviets who were ready to pull out, but to deliver as much harm against them imaginable. Carter wanted Afghanistan to be the Soviet’s “Vietnam”. And it was.

When they finally retreated, Afghanistan spun into chaos and a civil war ensued under the militant mujahideen warriors. Within this framework we saw the rise of the Taliban and Al Qaeda, and of course Osama bin Laden. All under the auspices of the United States security forces and American tax-payer monies. Clinton’s bombing of Sudan and Afghanistan was directly responsible for their rise.
Oh, and then, in what was most likely one of the greatest immoral injustices of the 21st century, the United States invaded Afghanistan in 2001 only further driving the besieged nation further into turmoil.

What does this mean? The mujahideen, the Taliban, and Al Qaeda do not represent thousands of years of Afghan culture and Islam. They are a direct reaction to Western imperialism.
The root cause for the disparity between the two pictures is foreign intervention by the US and it’s allies. Not Islam, and certainly not Arabs.

Iran 1970...

Iran now...

Here is a history on Iran. Before 1953, Iran was ruled under a democratically elected man called Mohammad Mosaddegh. Under his reign Iran saw a progressive movement of social and political reforms.
During this time Britain tried to establish an oil company (British Petroleum) on Iranian soil, and promised to share profit and technology with the Iranian government. However, the British didn’t honor their agreement. They, and the United States, began to steal Iran’s oil.

Prime Minister Mosaddegh would not stand for this and demanded the seizure of the oil fields and the ouster of the British. In response, the British and the United States overthrew him in a coup and installed the Shah who was a brutal tyrant and ruled the nation under an absolute monarchy. The women in this picture did live well, but that was because they were members of a very small minority and in the Shah’s social circle. Everyone else in Iran lived under harsh conditions. The economy was failing, education was abysmal, and the entire nation was rural and very religious.

Today, Iran’s health care is better. They have more political freedom. Education is improving, and the country is slowly globalizing. The economy is slightly better off, however that is quickly changing with the Western world’s sanctions against Iran in midst of their nuclear propaganda campaign at the behest of Israel.

What does this mean? Essentially, the Islamic Revolution had little to do with the rise of an Islamic state; rather it was caused by the resistance of Western imperialism to allow Iran to govern itself. Almost every social and political group was united in resisting the Shah, from the communists to the secularists to the Islamists. They demanded Iranian sovereignty and political freedoms. Is the current regime in Iran perfect? Absolutely not, and we should be passionately against it. But this picture is, nonetheless, extremely distortive of the truth.

Unfortunately, we have gone full circle. Today, the United States is supporting terrorist cells in Iran in an attempt to oust the current Iranian regime. They want to establish another pro-Western government like the Shah and “try again” where they failed. They have been doing this for decades and it hasn’t been working well. That is why we are now seeing media hysteria against Iran, and their false quest to achieve nuclear power and bomb Israel. Iran is a peaceful nation, and always has been. They have never attacked another nation, and have absolutely no intention of attacking Israel or anyone else for that matter.
The United States’ war against Iran is rooted solely to seek revenge for their failed foreign policy in the 70’s and to once again take control of their natural resources.

In conclusion, the society we live in is DIRECTLY responsible for far more than they will EVER admit to. Vehement racism and renewed nationalism spurred on by ignorance or dismissal of these truths by Eurocentric imbeciles is rife and is a response our governments rely on to justify their continued persecution of these lands.

And to make matters worse, all the deaths of British and American soldiers in Afghanistan have been for NOTHING. They are simply pawns on a chess board, supporting the overarching theater macabre of the ruling elite in an effort to increase their greed and control over coveted resources.
Even more horrifying is the realisation there may be nothing we can do to stop it.
Our current system is fated for death and destruction by the design of our terminally corrupt leaders.

posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 10:13 AM
reply to post by ZakOlongapo

have you got the comparison 1970/2011 of saudi arabia ? i think, it is the other way round.

posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 10:22 AM
reply to post by icepack

saudi arabia and those in power there is totally different story...

posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 10:25 AM
reply to post by ZakOlongapo

my point was, some countries develope backwards at the moment, others forward.

posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 10:28 AM
reply to post by icepack

i see.
so what U say is:
some countries develope backwards thanks to western influence ...

posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 10:34 AM
reply to post by ZakOlongapo

no, not really. but why is it, some countries become more religious fanatic, others become more modern ? even in the muslim world, it is mixed.
economic reasons ? power structures shifting ?

posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 10:41 AM
reply to post by icepack

if U use google for "religious fanatic" U will find more of them in west countries.... for some reason =)

posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 10:50 AM
reply to post by ZakOlongapo

yes, it is a world problem. since the "terrorists" attack western civilization, some christian people burn korans.
imo, to believe in god is ok, but to commit crimes in the name of god is just bad.

you posted about women, who have to wear burkas, so they are not sexually attractive for men.
i find it wrong, because there is naturism and nudism in the world. and those people doing it are no child molesting perverts or criminals.

i think, countries, that will establish nudism for all are the winners in terms of developement.

posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 10:58 AM
reply to post by icepack

since the "terrorists" attack western civilization...
do U mean when MOSSad help to take down twin towers??

posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 11:14 AM
reply to post by ZakOlongapo

no, for some it is terrorists for others freedom fighters. i think the influence of the western industrialised countries on the middle east was and is not only friendly. the part of influence, which is driven by thoughtless profit seeking creates resistance. unfortunately in a form of "blind" fanatism.

posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 11:51 AM
This is nothing more than another 'bashing USA' and whitewashing of history to ensure that the very perpetrators for the disasters happening in the middle east goes scot free.

A man can drag a horse to the river, but he has no power to make the horse drink if it doesnt want to.

Similarly, in the middle east after the breakup of the decadant brutal and apostate Ottoman Islamic Caliphate empire, thousands of petty arab warlords were on the prowl to gain power. They are nothing more than caravan robbers, who had saw modern tech advance beyond their capability for thievery as a sustainable economic policy.

Thus the misuse of religion as a tool to gain power and nations. The Wahabi bedouin tribes led the way. Saudi Arabia become a kingdom. Trans-jordon kings won their fief upon bootlicking to England. The muslim brotherhood, slow, backward illiterates in the power play, saw the way to grab a slice too.

All these happened LONG BEFORE even USA, an isolationist state pre WW2, came into the picture.

I hope the OP respect ATS site and its members. We are here to deny ignorances, not perpetuate it to fool simple minds into supporting slaughtering of mankind causes use by those unconscionable who will not hesitate to shed crocodile tears and lies, such as the OP is doing, to their cause.

May all readers wake up.

edit on 25-11-2012 by SeekerofTruth101 because: (no reason given)

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