LEAKED! The NWO Internet Takeover AND Kill Switch Agenda! If You Are Reading This - IT AFFECTS YOU!

reply to post by cavalryscout

Maybe true but they can't just 'kill it'. What would people do if they couldn't access their FB account. OMG!!!!!
I wouldn't care because I don't have an account but for some it would be the end of the world.

Do you know how to read? They won't kill it, they're trying to FILTER it. Big difference. And in the case of FB, they sure as hell won't kill it. Getting people to willingly volunteer their bathroom schedule had never been easier.

reply to post by cavalryscout

Maybe true but they can't just 'kill it'. What would people do if they couldn't access their FB account. OMG!!!!!

Obviously you didn't read a single thing I said. The last thing they would do is shut off FB since it's the number one info gathering resource.

reply to post by Hefficide


Bump Heff. This thread needs hundreds of them. It's the final jackboot
on the Internet's aorta, and the game of silence=acquiesence is over.
The only reason we won't be able to communicate with each other in
an open forum soon is because it's not as important as Black Friday
with all the trimmings and other great deals. The twisted irony of this
day for some release of the paper makes me confident the NWO has
just as twisted a sense of humor as myself.
We are truly headed to Perdition on rocket skates; and most didn't even
care to notice these inhuman crumbs lacing us all up? Whole body palm

Originally posted by digital01anarchy

Originally posted by Hefficide
reply to post by cavalryscout

 

And precedent? Want to know what the first thing the cops do during any sort of stand-off? They kill the phone lines so that the person inside cannot communicate with the outside world. This is the same concept on a larger scale.

~Heff

Kind of seems out outdated with the use of cellphones

almost everyone has one. unless they can jam a signal to the tower?

cut the power to the tower, (yes, I'm a poet, and I knowit)

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by cavalryscout

 

Maybe true but they can't just 'kill it'. What would people do if they couldn't access their FB account. OMG!!!!!
I wouldn't care because I don't have an account but for some it would be the end of the world.

Do you know how to read? They won't kill it, they're trying to FILTER it. Big difference. And in the case of FB, they sure as hell won't kill it. Getting people to willingly volunteer their bathroom schedule had never been easier.

edit on 23-11-2012 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)

Okay two of you keep saying they are going to "censor" the internet. Fine. Explain 2 me how this is going to be accomplished without millions of people noticing. What are they planning to censor that is now available?

My point is for China or Iran to censor the internet is a lot different than it happening in the U.S. or the U.K.

P.S. - "Do you know how to read?" made me laugh because I say something like that at least once a week on this site. First time someone has said it to me though. (surprised?)

reply to post by cavalryscout

Okay two of you keep saying they are going to "censor" the internet. Fine. Explain 2 me how this is going to be accomplished without millions of people noticing. What are they planning to censor that is now available?

My point is for China or Iran to censor the internet is a lot different than it happening in the U.S. or the U.K.

Anything they choose to. If you want more specific details, try actually reading the OP and the various sources from which it has been compiled. It doesn't matter how they're doing it, it's the principle of the matter. In censoring the internet, they are controlling the flow of information, and by extension, they are controlling how we think. If you manipulate the stimulus, you manipulate the reaction, and therefore the product.

There is a good possibility that this is the beginning of the war on the human intellect, and perhaps the war has already begun - this could simply be the next phase. Either way, we have to fight back. We can't just give up the most powerful tool available for use in our freedom of thought.

reply to post by AfterInfinity


Before I continue with this conversation I have a question.

Do you believe the internet as it now exists is not being censored?

(please say no.....)

reply to post by cavalryscout


How would China or Iran be any different in application? The technology exists. The motive exists. In fact US Internet censorship is already a reality - and not just involving the obvious illegal issues.

For fun, play around and search keywords using the Google link you get by typing google - and then start searching the Google servers of other countries and compare results. To accomplish this just search "Google Canada" or "Google Norway" for example.

~Heff

Originally posted by cavalryscout

Okay two of you keep saying they are going to "censor" the internet. Fine. Explain 2 me how this is going to be accomplished without millions of people noticing. What are they planning to censor that is now available?

edit on 23-11-2012 by cavalryscout because: (no reason given)

People will notice. People will be powerless to do anything after they notice though.

reply to post by Hefficide

How would China or Iran be any different in application? The technology exists. The motive exists. In fact US Internet censorship is already a reality - and not just involving the obvious illegal issues.

It wouldn't be different at all in application I'm sure they can do it. I'm saying they won't do it here at least not to the extent it is being done in some countries.

I'm not being intentionally dense here but I fail to understand what exactly is going to be censored that isn't already.

In a scenario lets say they temporarily block FB in the Chicago area. Don't you think people would notice? Of course they would and there would be outrage. If this was China the govt. would roll in the tanks and that would be the end of the riot / protest. Are you saying that is what would happen here in the U.S.? I don't see it happening or like I said earlier the govt. may be surprised by the response.

For people who don't think our internet is censored they need to wake up and smell the coffee. I said earlier that whatever changes do occur the average person won't even notice.

reply to post by cavalryscout


The true danger lay in the two aspects addressed throughout - one is the kill switch, the other specific outages.

A "kill switch" is relatively impossible, physically speaking. IE the Government, for all of their power, could not shut off the Internet. But this "governing body" - the ITU, and the phrasing in this PDF match closely the secret CyberSecurity executive order that Obama snuck through recently ( detailed in this prior thread of mine ). The key to it all comes in a single word:

"Partnership"

Both of these documents discuss Governments working in unison with telecom companies ( and other private interests ) for "security".

Following?

Uncle Sam cannot kill the Internet. But if he's buddies with Comcast, AT&T, etc. He can get his friends to do it with a wink and a nudge.

Motives for doing this? Imagination is the limit. One thing that many ranking ex military will tell you is that the old school "nuclear drills" were hogwash because if the nukes ever did launch - no civvies were going to know a thing about it until the mushrooms bloomed. This is because the panic would cause extra casualties. So this concept applies to varying degrees.

Remember the footage from the Superdome post Katrina. Embarrassing. Would have been great if that could all have just been silenced.

But more pressing in our current climate... What if an uprising began? A new Civil War? God knows folks discuss it lately - imagine if that talk really starts to take hold?

~Poof~

Cell phones, Internet, land lines... all locked out in the name of security. All in the name of protecting us from ourselves.

The First Amendment gave us freedom of speech and of the press. And it wasn't the FIRST amendment for nothing. It was the MOST important lifeline for a Democracy to have. This ITU proposal, combined with the secret EO threaten the First Amendment in a direct and dangerous way. Control of information means control of reality - in a very real sense.

These issues threaten our ability to get anything other than propaganda - and thus threatens our ability to discern reality.

~Heff

Has this thread got anything to do with this one ?
www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by scrog77


Not directly, but in spirit. Stellar Wind is the flagship cyber filtering hub for the NSA and Cybercommand. It is the place where all digital communications are fed through filters for keyword searches. Some say that it also stores all digital data for a period of time.

It's the next step in the eshelon/carnivore operations.

~Heff

reply to post by Hefficide


Hmmmm....definitely some scary stuff.

I was thinking of the first amendment and that's why I said the response by the people may be a bit more than what they expect. They won't take my gun and they won't take my voice. (I guess if they kill me but not until that day.)

Thanks for the thread I'll have to catch up on this later.

The First Amendment of the United States Constitution protects the right to freedom of religion and freedom of expression from government interference.
Freedom of expression consists of the rights to freedom of speech, press, assembly and to petition the government for a redress of grievances, and the implied rights of association and belief.

Source: www.law.cornell.edu...

reply to post by amatrine


It took a week to download a game. Coool I'm installing floppy #20/21 for Doom...."Can not read disk"...!@#$%^&
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
As much as I love the internet, it cannot be trusted, it has become a vast propagandist tool,

Years ago the first thing I learned about the interent was don't believe everything you read.

Kill the damn thing already maybe we would actually get off line and do something.

Seriously? This is probably not the best place to be telling us that the internet should go offline. May I suggest calling/sending a letter to the couple of thousand ATS members on here to put across your message instead? Everything in the modern age is a propaganda tool, the best way to overcome this issue is not hanging around in the stone age, that is like like removing all cars from the Earth because they can cause accidents. The best way to combat propaganda is to get people to care about it, it is that simple.

As I am being a little offtopic I also have some ideas about getting this important message out. I recently produced a promotional video for a brand on antiwar and antipollution, my next design I think will be aimed towards the internet freedom as that it an important cause I never even thought about.

Great thread Heff! S&F are well deserved for you sir

I have been watching the SOPA SISPA internet censorship issue for awhile and have signed every petition I've come across. They would love to have a censorship ability (nasty filters/blocks for things like tweet and blogs) up before things get much worse with our economy and the middle east. Remember Egypt? Remember how they had their tweets shut down?

No, this is not about shutting it down necessarily, but turning off the parts that allow us alternative ideas/news while still giving us FB, ebay and ways to be electronic vegetables, at the same time giving the illusion of being "socially connected". The big corporations are making boatloads of money off these insanely impersonal devices they have designed to be as profitable as possible yet as invasive to our privacy as can be legally allowed (i q the legality of course), and they are addictive, online games and apps and ever increasing "usefulness"... things that basically make humans less intelligent and more sheeplike. Sorry for the tangent but the point is it makes for a great formula of fear. Get a society hooked on their gadgets and connectivity, then make them FEAR that it will be taken away.

Ive not taken the time to read the 200 pages either. It frustrates me all the legal jargon that must be trudged through to find truths, I admire those who take on the task. I have signed the petition and hope everyone else would take the time as well.

happy thanksgiving ATS

Makes me want to buy 1,000,000,000,000 gigabytes of storage and download the entire internet for safe keeping.

Edit:
On a more serious note, once they close all of the "physical" libraries and all we have is information found on the internet, well, it's over.

reply to post by Hefficide


Dont worry. We have Anonymous. They are wizzes with computers I hear. They will steal the internet back for us.

reply to post by cavalryscout


You think it is censored? You can find child porn on here. You can find all manner of crap. That commercial where the girl says she heard it on the internet and you cant put anything thats not true on the internet comes to mind. Lots that is not true is on here too.