President Obama goes on the offensive, prepares to slam Republicans

Originally posted by xuenchen

Obama's and the Democrat's actual "strategy" is to force the tax cuts to expire with no compromise.
That makes everybody pay more.

What is the GOP's strategy?

Originally posted by FeelingPure
I bet Obama had this planned from the start, First Year, Test the waters analyse whats best, make small risks for good & bad returns, Enhance them good results, Learn from them bad results.

I want to see Obama Ruthless in his 2 Term.

Another way to explain his first four years of disappointment is On the Job Training...to bad America had to suffer though it, and I hope he has learn some since his education cost 6 trillion...

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Originally posted by xuenchen

Obama's and the Democrat's actual "strategy" is to force the tax cuts to expire with no compromise.
That makes everybody pay more.

What is the GOP's strategy?

Gee I don't know ???? :shk:

Have they said ??

My wild guess is to extend the tax cuts as is and then negotiate a new structure with the next Congress.

I wonder how that would work ? (petty jealousies aside of course).

Hmmm .... maybe that's why Obama is having murmurs and palpitations over the whole thing.

What damage would be done (if any) by extending the tax cuts for a year ?

What damage will be done if the cuts expire ?

what he should do is pretty simple

give them incentives to invest here

tax breaks to employ, encourage them to circulate the money in certain markets, etc



its all an oppurtunity, for everyone...thats how it should be seen

A true leader would find a way to work with those that may not agree with him.
,,, but then that would require a bit of effort on his part so it's much easier to simply resort to threats.
Obama will be plagued with the second term curse and it ain't gonna be pretty.
After an impeachment, be prepared to welcome in President Biden.

I don't think the Democrats should be gloating or feeling like they have the upper hand. The truth is that people want solutions and those solutions are only going to happen if both parties compromise. Get the country going inte right direction and they can resume their petty party differences once they have accomplished that mission.

reply to post by Alxandro


Once again it's ridiculous to claim Obama hasn't tried to work with the Republicans. I have to say I'm actually surprised he's standing up to them now. Let's hope this is just a prelude to moving away from the childish behavior we saw from both parties first term.

Its nothing more than rhetoric, Obamas a Muslim Agent, and before hes finished he'll have gutted the Infidel,
Its all bait for the sheeple

If I was him and the republicans wouldn’t extend the tax cuts for those making under 250K I would work with the Democrats to get a new bill started that would accomplish just that so when all the tax cuts expire there would be a tax cut bill in place and if the republicants wouldn’t sign then come 2 years you bet congress would change over to democrat control to where it would pass.

Originally posted by SPECULUM
Its nothing more than rhetoric, Obamas a Muslim Agent, and before hes finished he'll have gutted the Infidel,

You don't get out much huh??

Why do people keep up this nonsense??

Republicans: Stimulus doesn't work / waste

GWB Tax -stimumus-: Noooo, leave the poor rich folks stimulus alone!!!


I figured it out...they aren't from another world...I am. and I want to go back NOW!

Originally posted by jam321
I don't think the Democrats should be gloating or feeling like they have the upper hand. The truth is that people want solutions and those solutions are only going to happen if both parties compromise. Get the country going inte right direction and they can resume their petty party differences once they have accomplished that mission.

I agree with your sentiment.

I think Democrats are gloating due to the taunting the GOP folks have been engaging in for four years.

The Muslim, communist illegal alien got reelected, even though they tried their damnedest to bludgeon
him to death.

I think America will be doing surprisingly well in two years time, I think we might be able to get things
done that will coincide with higher sales and more jobs.

Originally posted by muse7

Asking millionaires and billionaires to pay a little bit more is reasonable. In fact, it's horrible that they're fighting to avoid paying their fair share

So what percentage of overall tax is their "fair share"?

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The GOP doesn't want to do this, and wants all the taxes to be held down together.

well thats untrue..

they only want taxes on the rich to be held down..

Originally posted by reeferman
reply to post by muse7

 

The GOP doesn't want to do this, and wants all the taxes to be held down together.

well thats untrue..

they only want taxes on the rich to be held down..

No they wanted taxes down on everyone, it is Democrats that decided to pick and choose who got what tax breaks. Can you show me where Republicans stated they want to lower taxes on the rich and raise them on the rest?

It's not like he hasn't been this way the whole time. He is a terribly partisan Prez.

Sorry, this is no surprise to me.

reply to post by Grimpachi

If I was him and the republicans wouldn’t extend the tax cuts for those making under 250K

See you bought the whole lie. Where have the Republicans ever said they would let the rich keep tax cuts but they would raise taxes on the middle class? That was just the Democrat Propaganda machine saying all that stuff and it's a lie.

Originally posted by ohioriver
reply to post by muse7

 

With the current business atmosphere in America, I can't blame them. But raising their taxes will only hurt the poor. We have a president who is a micro-manager and wants to control every nuance of every business. Banks,auto manufacturers,gibson guitars,obamacare,farms,internet. He wants to run the country and every business in it. Taxes are just one part of what is driving businesses to hoard resources. Who wants to sink millions into their business only to have the government decide whats best for it. In my opinion , it won't be long till we see more businesses flee to more business friendly countries.

Tax to the rich means tax to the consumer. The consumer is going to pay not the rich. Nobody wants to hear this bit of logic simply because the have a twisted heart toward the "rich" and american non-unionized industry.

They are so bent on taxing the "rich" that to do so they are about to see workers lose jobs and health care. But hay thats just collateral damage comrade. They need to create a disenfranchised mass out of a job, pissed off and on the governemt dole.

Raising taxes is not the solution. Not on the rich, not on the poor, or the middle class. The problem that no politician in the US congress wants to address is SPENDING. The only way for America to start digging itself out of this hole if its even possible is to lower taxes on everyone, simplify the tax code, close tax loopholes, remove some ridicolous regulations on small business and most important get the damn budget under control by slashing spending across the board. Raising taxes on the rich like Obama would like sounds good in theory but its socialism, and its not going to do anything to help create an environment where business are going to want to create jobs in a time where Americans are desperate for employment.

But where the problem lies mostly is NO ONE in the country wants to compromise and actually cut anything. Since 9/11 military spending has risen astronomically, aswell as spending for every new sort of governmental department you can think of to keep Americans all "safe" and "regulated". Medicare and social security are obviously unsustainable problems into the future in the current form. Anyone that has properly looked into the future liabilities knows the government at the moment has liabilites estimated between 110-220 trillion on top of the 16 trillion and god knows what else debt that is hidden away on off-balance sheets ie the GSE's like Freddie and Fannie.

These fiscal policies are not going to end well, by the end of Obamas term if the US makes it there, public debt will stand probably close to 22 trillion & honestly the only way these deficits are going to continue is by the banks buying up the debt and flipping it back to the Fed in endless QEternity until the dollar is worthless. Now some of you might think that inflation starts rising the Fed can raise interest rates, well thats not really an option anymore because they dont have an exit strategy because of their huge stock of securities now (3 trillion) if rates were to rise back to their historical mean levels the US government would be paying one large interest bill I cant remember the exact figure but its hundreds of billions & the Federal reserves own capital would be destroyed. The Fed has to keep rates artificially low as possible until atleast 2015 they state in their latest guidance by continuing to buy up MBS and Treasuries because of the huge spending of the congress.

In my opinion this cant really end well in any scenario. As Ron Paul has said recently the US is already off the fiscal cliff its just a matter now of hitting the bottom and when it happens the implications are going to be massive. It all comes down to this though the majority of the population of America has become dependent on government and convinced they require to be the police nation of the world until these attitudes change which I dont forsee without devasting crises then America is sadly destined for disaster.

Originally posted by Xcalibur254
reply to post by Alxandro

 

Once again it's ridiculous to claim Obama hasn't tried to work with the Republicans. I have to say I'm actually surprised he's standing up to them now. Let's hope this is just a prelude to moving away from the childish behavior we saw from both parties first term.

Were you around durring tha passing of Obama Care? The Dems ran all over the republicans. Thats they way they are. Its burns them to no end that they have the house to deal with.