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Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by sk0rpi0n
At around 3:48 he starts repeating the same uninformed nonsense about Allah being the moon god. I think I can see where its going.
Hey Hal, just what kind of a moon god prohibits the worship of the moon?
edit on 4-10-2012 by sk0rpi0n because: (no reason given)
Sahih International Surah 2:163 And your god is one God. There is no deity [worthy of worship] except Him, the Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful.
God 1:A being conceived as the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient originator and ruler of the universe, the principal object of faith and worship in monotheistic religions. 2:The force, effect, or a manifestation or aspect of this being. 3:A being of supernatural powers or attributes, believed in and worshiped by a people, especially a male deity thought to control some part of nature or reality. 4:An image of a supernatural being; an idol. 5:One that is worshiped, idealized, or followed 6: A very handsome man. 7:A powerful ruler or despot.
Sahih International Surah 2:158 Indeed, as-Safa and al-Marwah are among the symbols of Allah . So whoever makes Hajj to the House or performs 'umrah - there is no blame upon him for walking between them. And whoever volunteers good - then indeed, Allah is appreciative and Knowing.
Symbol 1:Something that represents something else by association, resemblance, or convention, especially a material object used to represent something invisible. 2: A printed or written sign used to represent an operation, element, quantity, quality, or relation, as in mathematics or music. 3: Psychology An object or image that an individual unconsciously uses to represent repressed thoughts, feelings, or impulses: a phallic symbol.
Bukhari: vol. 6, hadith 514, p. 482; book 61 Narrated Umar bin Al-Khattab: I heard Hisham bin Hakim reciting Surat Al-Furqan during the lifetime of Allah's Apostle and I listen to his recitation and noticed that he recited in several different ways which Allah's Apostle had not taught me. I was about to jump over him during his prayer, but I controlled my temper and when he had completed his prayer, I put his upper garment around his neck and seized him by it and said, "Who taught you this Surat which I heard you reciting ?" He replied, "Allah's Apostle taught it to me". I said, "You have told a lie, for Allah's Apostle taught it to me in a different way from yours". So I dragged him to Allah's Apostle and said, "I heard this person reciting Surat Al-Furqan in a way which you haven't taught me!". On that Allah's Apostle said, "Release him (Umar) recite, O Hisham!" Then he recited in the same way I heard him reciting. Then Allah's Apostle said, "It was revealed in this way", and added, "Recite, O Umar", I recited it as he had taught me. Allah's Apostle then said, "It was revealed in this way. This Qur'an has been revealed to be recited in seven different ways, so recite of it whichever is easier for you."
but the Muslims get defended because only the extremists are violent.
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by DarkKnight21
but the Muslims get defended because only the extremists are violent.
Defended???
From what I see, the muslims are the ones getting bombed and invaded... and the "civilized world" are 100% ok with it.
But of course.....they should be. After all, what right do the muslims have to question being bombed, invaded and shot at by the righteous Christian armies of the west and Europe?
edit on 4-10-2012 by sk0rpi0n because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by adjensen
For what it's worth, I finally got around to watching the film trailer in question ("Innocence of Muslims") and, whoo boy, what a stinkburger that thing is. I don't know about Muhammed, but my brain is insulted by watching something that horrible. The dubbing (voice overs that changed what the actors actually said) is ridiculously obvious, and the green screening is so badly done that half the time, it looks like they're floating over the ground.
Sad that people died over this thing, but it is laugh out loud bad, and I can't imagine that anyone who actually saw the thing would take it seriously for two seconds.
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by WarminIndy
Show me ONE instance in the Koran where Allah instructs His followers to worship the moon. Just ONE.
Thanks.
P.S - You claim Allah was a moon-god. Then how do you define a moon-god?
I'm guessing a moon-god would allow his followers to worship the moon.
I've got news for you.... Allah doesn't permit worship of the moon.
edit on 4-10-2012 by sk0rpi0n because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by WarminIndy
Adjensen, I could not watch more than two minutes, it was so bad. That is what I said, they should be more offended by how badly it was done.
That's the point you don't seem to get. Allah is not going to say "worship a moon god" because HE WAS the moon god
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by WarminIndy
That's the point you don't seem to get. Allah is not going to say "worship a moon god" because HE WAS the moon god
Cute.
But I'd rather go by what the Koran has to say on this matter.
From what I've read Allah has done the following....
Created the universe
Created Adam and Eve
Guided Noah to build the ark
Chose Abraham
Guided all the OT prophets
Sent Jesus to be born of a virgin
... etc. etc.
So if you believe something is true because its there in the bible, you need to be consistent and agree with whats in the Koran as well. I'll believe Allah is a moon-god when you find me a single verse in the Koran that declares Allah is a moon-god.
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