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Originally posted by seamus
Where the hell do you live? Mars? Canned tuna has gone up almost 20 cents in the last 3 months here in Tennessee. That's nearly a 30% increase! Hell, even bottled soda's gone up 25% in the last 3 weeks. Macaroni and cheese, you know, the cheap kind? Not so cheap anymore!
Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by dainoyfb
lol, we have no growing food crisis, I have no idea what the OP meant by that.
But that doesn't mean a food crisis isn't on the horizon. For everyone on our wonderful North American continent.
Pull your head out of the sand, buddy.
Originally posted by ~widowmaker~
cry cry cry, just go buy some spray paint and paintball guns and have at it at city hall ^^
The park itself is technically owned by the University of Toronto, but the property was leased to the Government of Ontario in 1859 for a period of 999 years, set to expire in 2858
Originally posted by jude11
Originally posted by juniperberry
Well, first of all, if they had worked WITH the city instead of just squatting on public land, things could have worked out.
Since it IS city owned land, there are requirements to get permits and stuff. Vancouver has a plethora of plots set up by non-profits and community groups who have worked WITH the city to organize things.
Even Vancouver City Hall is donating their own lawn to set up garden plots.
Seriously, instead of being obnoxious about it, the squatters could have just asked.
It's the Canadian thing to do after all.
I was waiting for you. And there you are.
Always someone...
Looking for brownie points from city council perhaps?
Originally posted by jude11
reply to post by juniperberry
Why is everyone so bound and determined to do whatever the heck they want whenever they want?
Because if what we do doesn't hurt anyone...it's our right,
And as citizens of this planet, we should never have to ask permission to exercise our rights.
Did I miss something?
Peace
Originally posted by jaxnmarko
reply to post by jude11
I think its a shame, but also, as we all know beurocrats and laws are nuts and everywhere, the people should have KNOWN BETTER than to not check for regulations about this..... and avoid the heartache after all that work. Perhaps they should work on getting the law changed and THEN grow food. Not to put them down at all, just to point out that the SYSTEM controls our lives, so get IN the System or help change it in other ways so it actually makes sense instead of nonsense. Unfortunately, these people were asking for trouble just by doing something sensible and logical. Sad.
Originally posted by garygnu
Maybe the Organic growers should go onto Public property and tear up local government flower gardens in retaliation. The people already own the public lands so tearing it up is within their rights.
How many community gardens are there in Toronto?
Toronto now boasts over 100 community gardens, plus 12 municipal allotment gardens. The total number of individual plots probably totals well over 4500. There are new gardens starting up all of the time and we don’t know all of them.
Originally posted by boncho
Originally posted by juniperberry
Well, first of all, if they had worked WITH the city instead of just squatting on public land, things could have worked out.
Since it IS city owned land, there are requirements to get permits and stuff. Vancouver has a plethora of plots set up by non-profits and community groups who have worked WITH the city to organize things.
Even Vancouver City Hall is donating their own lawn to set up garden plots.
Seriously, instead of being obnoxious about it, the squatters could have just asked.
It's the Canadian thing to do after all.
The city could have resolved this in a much more diplomatic manner. Waiting until the day before harvest just seems like they want to irritate the people involved.
If it wasn't a legal garden, they should have made an effort to turn it into one or at least ban that location next year before people come and plant there.
If it's something positive for the community I don't see why they shouldn't at least (bare minimum) be accommodating.
Originally posted by jude11
Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by dainoyfb
lol, we have no growing food crisis, I have no idea what the OP meant by that.
But that doesn't mean a food crisis isn't on the horizon. For everyone on our wonderful North American continent.
The food crisis they are mentioning would be Global I believe. The US with the failed crops this year contributes to it and Canada having a crappy growing season as well.
We are being warned about shortages and rising prices at the super markets are already starting.
Peace
Originally posted by ~widowmaker~
reply to post by jude11
So you want people to fight for YOUR rights?
Typical coward approach.
i dont even get this statement, its not my garden, dont care. people cry and do nothing, i was giving a creative idea, for those that are crying to go have some fun. 8o) and i do plenty of my own covert "fun" all on my own thank you.
Originally posted by something wicked
Originally posted by jude11
Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by dainoyfb
lol, we have no growing food crisis, I have no idea what the OP meant by that.
But that doesn't mean a food crisis isn't on the horizon. For everyone on our wonderful North American continent.
The food crisis they are mentioning would be Global I believe. The US with the failed crops this year contributes to it and Canada having a crappy growing season as well.
We are being warned about shortages and rising prices at the super markets are already starting.
Peace
Forgive me, but if this is public (government owned) land that the produce is grown on, and someone eats it and gets ill/dies, the government is liable......... am I missing something as to why the government would want to cover themselves against that risk?
Originally posted by Helmkat
I am all for home grown food.
I am all for people eating right.
I am for people doing as the law allows on their own property.
That being said, the gardeners were clearly in the wrong here. City should of yanked it all out as soon as it went in. Public land belongs to -everyone- and tearing it up to plant a garden without permission is not cool.