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National RFID chips

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posted on Oct, 15 2004 @ 11:38 PM
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The FCC just apporved the RFID chips for implants in people the verichip company state that they are going to be giving away 1200 of the chip reader units to spawn growth fot the technology. Walmart will be using the technology for tagging merchandise and already are in the Houston area.
So now what will everyone do since the chips appear to be not all that far away from being rolled out.

geo



posted on Oct, 15 2004 @ 11:43 PM
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I dont plan on getting something put in me for the crap sake of someone monitoring controlling everything i do....

Nor do I plan to have my Kids tagged either....

[edit on 15-10-2004 by ThichHeaded]



posted on Oct, 15 2004 @ 11:45 PM
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I suppose the obvious thing to do is not buy tagged products - lost sales hurt any business.

I do think however, that it will become harder to avoid this technology. Life will be made 'simpler' for those that adopt the technology and 'pain in the butt' for those who refuse to take part.

There's a similar approach being taken with national ID cards over here in the UK - make it easier to get health care and other services if your carrying a national Id card, but less easy if you're not. The treasury have made a deal with the banks and other financial institutions - the banks love the idea of national ID cards doubling as credit cards. Yet again policy is being influenced by big business.



posted on Oct, 16 2004 @ 12:48 AM
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www.abovetopsecret.com... gilette video on rfid.



posted on Oct, 16 2004 @ 12:52 AM
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Have a look at this article BBC - Security Under the Skin (includes voting)

For the record, I voted "No way!".



posted on Oct, 16 2004 @ 01:06 AM
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Originally posted by geocom
The FCC just apporved the RFID chips for implants in people the verichip company state that they are going to be giving away 1200 of the chip reader units to spawn growth fot the technology. Walmart will be using the technology for tagging merchandise and already are in the Houston area.
So now what will everyone do since the chips appear to be not all that far away from being rolled out.

geo


Are you sure the only reason I ask is that I read today that the FDA also gave it's approval today. And I received a flu and pneumonia shot 3 days ago.
Oh CRAP, now I'm paranoid



posted on Oct, 19 2004 @ 03:54 PM
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FAKED'D/10
Seriously, that website on Yahoo was faked, sorry to burst your bubble.



posted on Oct, 19 2004 @ 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by Deckard_BR26354
Have a look at this article BBC - Security Under the Skin (includes voting)

For the record, I voted "No way!".


A lot of people have assumed that this is just a US thing - not so, this is a world thing. This chip thing is adapting all over the world and will progress into many avenues of simplicity/convenience/safety. Many people will buy into it because they want a simple life, they want convenience, they cry for safety.

It will provide safer boarders from terrorism
It will help provent terrorism
It will make it easier to buy and sell
It will be adopted into the work place, the medical industry
You can not just track your pet, but ahhhh, your children
Easier banking, etc, etc. etc.

Those who don't adhere to the worlds simplicity will be labeled as "terrorists" - after all they would be going against the world wouldn't they?

This isn't something that will happen over night so over time people will become more and more comfortable about the idea - they don't want their lives disrupted; no time for that. Anyway, so people who stand by their beliefs in not willingly taking the chip will be crazy, unlawful.



posted on Oct, 19 2004 @ 05:23 PM
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Godsent
Those who don't adhere to the worlds simplicity will be labeled as "terrorists" - after all they would be going against the world wouldn't they?


In that case you'll have to label me a 'terrorist' because there's no way that I'm gonna participate in this form of control.



posted on Oct, 19 2004 @ 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by Deckard_BR26354

Godsent
Those who don't adhere to the worlds simplicity will be labeled as "terrorists" - after all they would be going against the world wouldn't they?


In that case you'll have to label me a 'terrorist' because there's no way that I'm gonna participate in this form of control.


I can surely say that I will not, nor will my family adhere to chip implantation - willingly that is. I would die first. But I wonder how many people will actually give in?



posted on Oct, 19 2004 @ 05:33 PM
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I'm glad to here it - I misread your post and thought you were all for it!

Sorry about that


How can we resist it? They're gonna make it so difficult to avoid it - you're life is gonna be one huge inconvenience 'cos they can't scan your chip if you haven't got one and if you haven't got one then you're a 'non-person'.


[edit on 19/10/2004 by Deckard_BR26354]



posted on Oct, 19 2004 @ 05:37 PM
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I would rather die than have a microchip implanted in me and become a complete robot. People must be warned that yes they will track and know everything about you, but the even darker reason behind it is the signals going from the computer into you via your chip. They will be able to create mass depression, mass fear, mass happiness (unlikely), and any other state of being via your microchip. People must not buy any reason whatsoever to have a chip implanted.



posted on Oct, 19 2004 @ 05:48 PM
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Has anyone got any useful links on chip-implants and the implications?

I'm interested in how this technology is currently being sold.

In particular, I would like some ideas on how this technology could be abused in future and whether anyone has managed to formulate ideas about the real dangers of this technological trend.


[edit on 19/10/2004 by Deckard_BR26354]



posted on Oct, 19 2004 @ 06:23 PM
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It's fun to get hot and bothered about RFID chips, fan oneself and fall on the fainting couch, but if you are worried about being identified, RFID chips are not the thing to worry about.

RFID chips can be removed, just as they can be implanted, meaning that they can be transferred, allowing for the usual mischief such a weakness encourages.

If you want to worry about something that is truly meaningful, check out biometric identification. It's a lot easier to buy a black-market RFID chip than to get a spare set of fingerprints, retinas and DNA.

Forced implantation of RFID chips on the populace as a whole is a highly impractical and unlikely scenario, when biometric scans -- which require no surgery and are very resistant to forgery -- will be much cheaper and less controversial.

The technology for universal identification already exists, and is being deployed now. You probably already have a thumbprint scanner at your local DMV.

That's nothing compared to what's coming. Legal mandates for biometric identification are already written into such things as the requirements for U.S. visas, as well as a lot of other things already being hammered out in the halls of Congress and legislative bodies around the world.

So if you want to hide, better hide early.

Perhaps rather than fear technology in the hands of our governments, we should endeavor to have governments we need not fear at all.



posted on Oct, 19 2004 @ 06:41 PM
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to DECKARD- the best people to give you info on the truth about chips are Alex Jones and David Icke. Icke has talked to an insider about chips and the real reason behind them - mass mind control.

To Majic- this is real good point made ,maybe you can back me up on my resistance to id cards being introduced because alot of people on this site are all for them! they need to wake up! I do think both the cards and chips are equally as dangerous both need to be stopped now and forgotton about forever- wake up and save humanity everyone!



posted on Oct, 19 2004 @ 06:51 PM
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I share a lot of the concerns about the abuses new ID technology can lead to, but I don't see any hope in fighting technology. You may as well try to stop the world from turning.

My main point is that concerns about the technology are generally misguided. The technology is not the problem, but rather that we live under governments that are prone to abuse them.

RFID chips and biometric identification are not evil, they are merely symptoms of what we perceive as being a true evil.



posted on Oct, 19 2004 @ 07:04 PM
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I do agree in part with what you are saying. Technology is not a bad thing if used with absolute good intent. However, i do not think we need to be tagged and controlled.
Most of the problems in the world are because people have been kept from the truth about who they are, meaning everyone is divided into belief systems and controlled by fear.
I am an infinate being on an eternal journey and have the right to be free to do and belive what i like (so does everyone) as long as i respect and love everyone elses views-- so i do not want to have a biometric id card or chip just to live in this world.



posted on Oct, 19 2004 @ 07:20 PM
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My biggest concern is with the amount of data that's being collected about me and every consumer on this planet.

The law used to say that an organisation could only collect data for a specific purpose and that data could not be shared or used for any other purpose.

All of a sudden, the floodgates seemed to have opened and every group on the planet wants to know every last detail about me and my life and be able pick through it all and deduce any fact that they see fit and none of it with my permission.

Should we really allow anyone to know so much about each and every individual?

Radio tagging and biometric data collection and recognition are just gonna accelerate this process exponentially - the mechanism for complete population control is almost upon us.

Once we're in 'the system' then the categorisation process will begin.

[edit on 19/10/2004 by Deckard_BR26354]



posted on Oct, 19 2004 @ 07:28 PM
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completely true- we also know who introduced id cards- Hitler!



posted on Oct, 19 2004 @ 09:21 PM
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majic hit the nail on the head, that the chip is a red herring. we defeat it and think we'll keep our privacy! the government already knows so much about us. the irs doesn't care about collecting taxes, it collects information about us. in a recent issue of reason magazine (to which i subscribe) there was an aerial picture of my neighborhood. inside information about my community. the check cashing/discount card at the supermarket is mainly for collect data about our buying habits. if private industry can access all this information, don't you think the gov't could do more. the whole point is to gain more and more power to establish a socialist/internationalist society. the more known, the easier it becomes to break down the present society to re-establish the nwo here. in other countries its easy, they are used to being led (kings empperors, warlords, &c.) we are more of a challenge, and it must be done stealthly so as not to be noticed.. its begun, probably with wilson, fdr gave it a big boost, but i believe we still have a chance to reverse it.




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