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The ram which thou sawest having [two] horns [are] the kings of Media and Persia.
And the rough goat [is] the king of Grecia: and the great horn that [is] between his eyes [is] the first king.
- I personally find this comment offensive, its like saying all Christians are like the ones from the crusades. (i do NOT believe this in any way shape or form), just because someone questions something, does not mean they are "anti-christian" to which i suspect you will throw me in.
Originally posted by mark1167
reply to post by ntech
I applaud your courage in creating this thread on a site where anti Christians come down hard on people like you. Get ready. Soon the anti God, anti Christianity crowd will flood your thread with their wrath and try to sidetrack the whole topic.
I posted before on a similar thread regarding the prophecy that interests me the most.
It is found in Daniel chapter 11 verse 37. This verse clearly gives us a picture of the future anti Christ that we have been warned about.
" Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers( A typical Jewish phrase stating he shall be Jewish) nor the desire of women( verifying he will be a homosexual) nor regard any God, for he shall magnify himself above all.Stating he will believe and convince the world he is God.
What are your thoughts on this verse?
Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers or for the one desired by women, nor will he regard any god, but will exalt himself above them all.
He will have no respect for the gods of his ancestors, or for the god loved by women, or for any other god, for he will boast that he is greater than them all.
Originally posted by stirling
The goat part, not touching the earth...could be a strike by a Bunch of B2 spirit bombers which can fly all the way to Diego garcia and bomb Iran On BOTH passes.....or even intercontinental missiles.......
Just sayin....some prphecies ARE said to have mirrored fullfillments....??
37. And he will not contemplate the gods of his fathers, and the most desirable of women and any god he will not contemplate, for he will magnify himself over all.
And he will not contemplate the God of his fathers: he will not put his mind to the Holy One, blessed be He, Who is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, his [i. e., Israel’s] forefathers. the most desirable of women: the nation of Israel, [called] fairest of women.
Originally posted by Spruk
Originally posted by stirling
The goat part, not touching the earth...could be a strike by a Bunch of B2 spirit bombers which can fly all the way to Diego garcia and bomb Iran On BOTH passes.....or even intercontinental missiles.......
Just sayin....some prphecies ARE said to have mirrored fullfillments....??
Or Drones
Or Satellites
Or Space craft
Or Killer bees
Or Nanites
Or a Raincloud
Or a REALLY big stick
Or wet kipper being projected out of a rail gun
Or just about anything and everything we can think of that can be projected or flown.
And its from my understanding that the prophecy discussed here is a once off event, its the rise of the anti-christ (using the current perspective.)
Originally posted by ntech
The simple explanation is Daniel is describing the visions he is having. The term goat and Greece are what I would consider a simile. Meaning that rather than being the actual Greece in the prophecy what he is saying is that the object in question looked Greek to him...all he can do is describe what he saw
Originally posted by DISRAELI
Originally posted by ntech
The simple explanation is Daniel is describing the visions he is having. The term goat and Greece are what I would consider a simile. Meaning that rather than being the actual Greece in the prophecy what he is saying is that the object in question looked Greek to him...all he can do is describe what he saw
The vision described by Daniel in ch8 is about a ram and a goat.
The prophet Daniel does NOT say that the goat is Greece.
The information that the goat represents the king of Greece COMES FROM THE ANGEL who interprets the vision to him (ch8 v21).
Similarly in ch11 v2. The reference to the kingdom of Greece is part of the long explanatory speech which another angel begins in ch10 v20.
So your idea that the identification is based on Daniel's confused understanding of what he saw is mistaken; it comes on the authority of the angel of God.
edit on 19-9-2012 by DISRAELI because: (no reason given)