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Columbus Day Celebrates The Most Important Turning Point in History

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posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 06:26 PM
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The opposition to Columbus Day exemplifies the lunacy of the left more than any other action. Columbus's discovery heralded the greatest turning point for mankind in history. It was upon this discovery that Western Civilizaiton was able to break out of its confines in Europe and flourish to bring forth the most liberal democracy and the most aggressive defenders of freedom the world has ever seen.



On one level, Columbus Day honors the explorer himself, for his many virtues. Columbus was a man of independent mind, who steadfastly pursued his bold plan for a westward voyage to the Indies despite powerful opposition--a man of courage, who set sail upon a trackless ocean with no assurance that he would ever reach land--a man of pride, who sought recognition and reward for his achievements.

We need not evade or excuse Columbuss flaws--his religious zealotry, his enslavement and oppression of natives--to recognize that he made history by finding new territory for a civilization that would soon show mankind how to overcome forever the age-old scourges of slavery, war, and forced religious conversion.

On a deeper level, therefore, Columbus Day celebrates the rational core of Western civilization, which flourished in the New World like a potbound plant liberated from its confining shell, demonstrating to the world what greatness is possible to man at his best.

On Columbus Day, we celebrate the civilization whose philosophers and mathematicians, men such as Aristotle, Archimedes, and Euclid, displaced otherworldly mysticism by discovering the laws of logic and mathematical relationships, demonstrating to mankind that the universe is knowable and predictable.
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posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 06:33 PM
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And all it took was a bunch of dead Native Americans. Great post Grady



posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 06:36 PM
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Holy crap, I think the world may end.

I find myself agreeing with Grady.

"Our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth...."

Quickly, everyone at once..doom is upon us.

Seriously, though.

I have been taught since my earliest days that Columbus wasn't the first european to visit the Americas, just the first of his era. He rediscovered it, and paved the path for all we have now. I don't think that we're unjustified for celebrating.

Despite the fact that Columbus was a 'bad man' (as bad as any other European male with power was at the time) he deserves one day out of the year. I mean come on, we've got a day for everything else, right?



posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 06:37 PM
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I wonder if the native americans or any native still alive in the americas are celebrating too.



posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 06:37 PM
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Columbus's "Discovery"?? The idiot got lost and landed on a continent that had long been discovered by the Norse....and was also already well populated by the Native Americans.... ....



posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 06:42 PM
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We can't change the past or the injustices, but we all benefit from the great nation which came to inhabit this land. Not all Native Americans hate America. Most, whom I know, the Navajo, are fiercely patriotic. Those of you who live here and whose consciences are overwhelmed should pack up and leave post-haste. There is nothing like the ingratitude of immigrants to warm my heart.



posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 06:42 PM
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Does Israel celabrate Hitlers Birthday?

I am glad he did I wouldnt be here otherwise and I love this country despite its faults but I dont see how you can seperate the discovery from the Butchery that HE started.

I watched a good Documantary on the history channel called 500 nations, part of which was about this very subject if anyone gets the chance they should see it.



posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 06:45 PM
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Your asking me to celebrate the deaths of Native Americans to pave the way for the white man. I'm not celebrating crap. Of course we can't change the past, but that doesn't mean we should revel in it.

I'm grateful just for living Grady, I could be living in the Sahara and I would be grateful for living. To me, it doesn't matter where I live, what my status is, or what I'm making. Life comes before anything else.

EDIT: Well, freedom for all come first, and we never gave them a chance.

[edit on 14-10-2004 by Jamuhn]



posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 06:46 PM
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That's crazy, i love the way they say it was disovered, it was already found, before the white man started coming over, killing everyone and setting up disgustingly unhealthy fast food chains like mcdonalds, and allowing themselves to be ruled by abosulte idiots who'd be more use as a puppet with a hand up it's A** ( oh wait, that's what your president is! lol )


Crazy Crazy Crazy, but hey, it's the biggest turning point in history for humans



posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 06:48 PM
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At least the US have some of his natives, but in my Island and in the caribean they were decimated, bringing the first round of slaves from Africa to take their places, yes I bet we have a lot to celebrate.



posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by Snoopdopey
Crazy Crazy Crazy, but hey, it's the biggest turning point in history for humans



Despite the Birth pains he is right it was a turning point in history although I would argue that it come later with the revolutionary war and the Birth of America, which was a completely different form of Government than what was used back then. It was bloody no doubt but in the long run it brought freedom to large portion of the world.



[edit on 14-10-2004 by Amuk]



posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 06:52 PM
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Your asking me to celebrate the deaths of Native Americans to pave the way for the white man. I'm not celebrating crap. Of course we can't change the past, but that doesn't mean we should revel in it.


Just go down to one of the Indian Casino's, spend your whole check. Tell them you did this for what Colombus did to them. You will know you have been forgiven, when they give you the Buffet coupon



posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 06:54 PM
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It is unfair to denigrate the discovery, itself. Yes, the Vikings got here, but they forgot to tell anyone. Yes, the "New World" was already populated, but a man who had a vision had the courage to act on his beliefs and opened up the world in a way that had never been done.

Most Native Americans don't oppose Columbus Day, only a few idiots following the methods of marxism. We may not appreciate the abuses of the Catholic church, but we must recognize that the church preserved much that was essential to an understanding of our history during the Middle Ages and has contributed much to the art of Western Civilization, not to mention the gospel of Jesus Christ.

All the world is the beneficiaries of Columbus's courage and tenacity and we should not let the rantings of latter day lunatics to distract us from this truth. All events and process must be taken in their totality.

[edit on 04/10/14 by GradyPhilpott]



posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Most Native Americans don't oppose Columbus Day, only a few idiots following the methods of marxism.
100% false. You dont know any natives do you? Dont just pull statements out of your imagination. Go and ask 10 natives if they think theyd be better off if white man never came for a visit.

[edit on 14-10-2004 by krackel]


LL1

posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 06:59 PM
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Winston Churchill, Al Capone and Christopher Columbus?

Give up, that's to those whom may not know....



Well they all died from syphilis...



posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 07:00 PM
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TextMost Native Americans don't oppose Columbus Day, only a few idiots following the methods of marxism.


Ho, I forgot they are anti-American and idiots, How funny you use of words Grady.



posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 07:03 PM
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Originally posted by krackel
Dont just pull statements out of your imagination.


I know many, my friend. Most of the one's I know are far more loyal to America than those who inhabit this site. I can't say that there are not mixed emotions, but most are not the rabid savages you suggest. I live next door to two.



posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 07:06 PM
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It takes a rabid savage and a lunatic to oppose Columbus day? By knowing two people you know MOST native americans. Give it a break. Your just talking out your ass. I'd much rather celebrate Native Americans than Columbus. Like I said before, just because people don't celebrate Columbus Day with such fanaticism as you do, doesn't mean they anti-American or anti-Western World. Nobody claims to be able to change the past, and therefore displacing grduges on the present is useless.

If you don't like the people here, then try FreeRepublic, it's more your kind of people.

[edit on 14-10-2004 by Jamuhn]



posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by LL1
Winston Churchill, Al Capone and Christopher Columbus?

Give up, that's to those whom may not know....



Well they all died from syphilis...


You know that Columbus and his men got the syphilis from the natives? yes, they then took it back to the old world and spread it, but natives were inmune to it.


LL1

posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 07:11 PM
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I never knew that they were immune, thanks on that one.




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