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“I enjoy getting ugly and violent with this a–hole and will continue to do so until he is fully exposed,” decried an outspoken critic using the name Alan Jacoby. “He uses 9/11 to solicit donations so he can buy used fire equipment at discounted prices and donate it to 3rd world countries. This does nothing to benefit 9/11 victims families and responders.”
Originally posted by cconn487
Well if the money actually makes its way for the training and gear, why is that so bad? Do people think any money donated makes its way to victims or first responders?
More to the point, does obtaining money make the pain of the event any less worse?
The guy has a point in trying to make something good come from the events of 9/11.
That is if it actually goes to the cause rather than someone's account in the caymen islands.edit on 9-9-2012 by cconn487 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by maxella1
Originally posted by cconn487
Well if the money actually makes its way for the training and gear, why is that so bad? Do people think any money donated makes its way to victims or first responders?
More to the point, does obtaining money make the pain of the event any less worse?
The guy has a point in trying to make something good come from the events of 9/11.
That is if it actually goes to the cause rather than someone's account in the caymen islands.edit on 9-9-2012 by cconn487 because: (no reason given)
He uses the money to buy equipment for foreign countries... The First Responders who are sick because of the ground zero dust need the help. Take care of our own damn it !
Originally posted by maxella1
He uses the money to buy equipment for foreign countries... The First Responders who are sick because of the ground zero dust need the help. Take care of our own damn it !
Originally posted by exponent
Originally posted by maxella1
He uses the money to buy equipment for foreign countries... The First Responders who are sick because of the ground zero dust need the help. Take care of our own damn it !
I don't see that the nationality of the sufferer has any bearing. You can best help First Responders by guaranteeing them healthcare. If it was not for the nature of American health insurance then they would have significantly less stress and need.
Originally posted by maxella1
Wow you people are just amazing... This guy is using 9/11 to get donations and then takes that money and buys equipment for firefighters in other countries. At the same time we have firemen dropping dead and they have to fight the government to get benefits for their treatment.
Why not use the donations for these firemen first? and if you don't want to do that than don't do it in the name of 9/11.
What is so bad about trying to help firefighters around the world? These people put their lives on the line to save others and deserve charitable support.
Originally posted by maxella1
Absolutely nothing wrong with helping firefighters around the world.. But if you going to collect donations in the name of those who died on 9/11 and we have firemen who survived 9/11 and need our help... well you get my point.
Death threats are wrong and disgusting but what this guy is doing is also wrong. First Responders need help, if you want to help by donating money in the name of 9/11 it would be nice if you would help the ones who came to the rescue that day. That's all I'm saying.
I don't see that what he's doing is wrong at all.
Originally posted by maxella1
Yeah that's because you don't see the consequences the first responders have to deal with. What he should do is separate his collections campaign. One should be for the firemen abroad and the other one for firemen here. I have a feeling that people would donate more for firemen here.
It's great helping other countries and all but we are in a lot of trouble here at home. Take care of your own first.
Ensuring a national healthcare system exists would be my choice, but I am British so I have the luxury of the NHS.
You should help those you are best able to help.
Originally posted by maxella1
How is that working for you?
This is just another thing that we will have to agree to disagree on.
It's so much a part of our country it was honoured in the Olympic Opening Ceremony.