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Originally posted by MrJingles
Saying Bush is an honorable man is like calling Hitler compassionate.
Originally posted by AceWombat04
I'm not planning on voting, actualy. I appreciate your respect. Rest assured it is mutual. I don't get angry just because people dissagree with me.
Originally posted by edsinger
Originally posted by taibunsuuDefecits and National Debt - Hey we got a war on we gotta spend. Uh-huh. Short-term solution for long-term problem.
Ok lets step back a minute and look at things from a different perspective. During the 80's you leftists had the same cry, the economy grew so fast and large that by the 90's we realized that we did OUTGROW it and due to the tightasses in Congress who kept Clinton's spending under control we actually had a SuRPLUS! YEs it was Reaganomics that gave Clinton that surplus....then as normal a business cycle must swing down it happened at the begining of an administration Bush Jr instead if a start of growth cycle at the end of one such as Bush SR. The only way is to GROW and that doeant include trillions in more social giveaways.
Originally posted by MrJingles
I said Bush should've handled the situation better. We should've taken saddam when he was actually a leader, not someone on the run. What we have in Iraq cannot be controlled. Fighting fire with fire simply doesn't make sense in this situation. Think about what I just said and try to figure it out.
Originally posted by MrJinglesWhatever you wanna say about abortion is fine with me... Government has no right to tell people what to do however.
Originally posted by MrJinglesAs far as I'm concerned, judges shouldn't even have a party affiliation. Immoral country? You dare call the U.S immoral when terrorists are running around chopping peoples heads off? Who exactly do you blame for that?
Originally posted by MrJinglesYou know what? Thats great, not a whole lot of American's can honestly say they worked hard to get their degree. Obviously Bush's education isn't helping the economy right now.
Originally posted by MrJinglesI just don't understand how something as innocent as marriage could be considered...immoral.
Originally posted by MrJinglesI am aware you said non-defense. What I was saying, is that we already spend more on defense than anyone else in the world, and even though 1% isn't that much, it is still 20 billion. See you gotta get all p.o'd at stupid crap like that. I'm not sure how social and assistance programs are considered waste... Maybe you oughta walk a mile in a poor man's shoes before you make statements like that
Originally posted by MrJinglesI consider a lie an untrue statement, I don't know what you consider a lie, or whatever Dan Rather has to say.
Originally posted by MrJinglesthis is one of the reasons I try to stay out of the political forums. The only thing that sucks is your inabilty to accept that you are wrong in some instances. I can't profess that I'm completely right, but I can try to understand some of the reasons you believe in things you do. Perhaps next time you should take a chill pill before responding. It's pretty obvious alot of people don't like Bush in these forums, so
Originally posted by taibunsuu
Nice find, dgtempe.
Wow, Ed, Bush sure is great at homeland security. Just invites Chechen terrorists to stroll on up into the US from Mexico. Oh wait, maybe it's Clinton's fault the US-Mexico border is so loose since 09.11.2001 while most of our National Guard is screwing around in the sands of Arabia.
Let's hope this gets clamped down quick.
Originally posted by taibunsuu
First, I'm Independent, not leftist. I'm about as much a leftist as Bush is a conservative. Second, here's another cycle: Every time something goes wrong under Bush's watch he and his apologists like you blame Clinton. Like I give a # about Clinton. You see two things: Liberal and Conservative which to you seem to equal Good and Bad. Sound fiscal policy is the responsibility of the administration and excuses are like assholes.
Originally posted by taibunsuuI actually think Bush deserves a second term so that he has to stop using the Clinton excuse over, and over, and over. Bush sucks and the thing that pisses me off more than anything is the fiscal policy because it's black and white, right and wrong. The nation is in the black, or in the red. Bush cannot blame the other guy if our nation is in the red. Whatever president borrows money to keep the government going is #ing things up.
Originally posted by taibunsuuWhere's your holy conservative congress now saving the budget? Yep, thought so. It's in your imagination.
Originally posted by Intelearthling
Originally posted by AceWombat04
I'm not planning on voting, actualy. I appreciate your respect. Rest assured it is mutual. I don't get angry just because people dissagree with me.
AceWombat04,
You're actually the first person I've heard say that there is no national crisis now and there won't be one in the future.
So, can you fill the rest of us in on how great the nation is doing? It must be doing great to not vote, for anyone!
Originally posted by dgtempe
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One cup, and you'll realize how wrong and misinformed you all are.
Originally posted by KrazyJethro
Want an alternate opinion (since you seem to get jumped on by the left mafia), I think it makes no difference who wins. Same results.
I do, however, place you in the same category as them though. You certainly are a "true believer", which is fine. Maybe it's just me, but I can't for the life of me figure out where you're coming from. I believe the same as you do, if you aren't just hamming it up. Difference is, is that I realize the repercussions of this short range thinking that has caught on in the Big Two (Rep & Dem).
The problem is the US Federal Government. You can only build an empire so big until it collapses under the "social rot"(and other nasty American habits of late) I'm sure you hate (i.e. the homosexual agenda, abortion, etc).
It simply is no longer practical. The bubble has yet to burst. If it did, our fiat currency would leave us a huge target for the people we've pissed off in the last 50+ years.
Originally posted by taibunsuu
Well anyway, everyone's entitled to their own opinion and for sure no one is absolutely correct.
I think Baradnik makes a hell of a lot more sense than either of the bonesmen now running.
Economy goes up and down, and amends have to be made to keep the country either in the black or neutral. This endless debt that spans multipile administrations has got to end.
Mark my words: Bad economics will finish our country unless we smarten up.
Originally posted by AceWombat04
I don't recall ever having said that. If that's your interpretation however, I respect it. It is valid for you, whether it's true for me or not.
I know that my stance bothers, and probably even angers, some people. So be it. I apologize if I've caused any ill feelings by assuming it. That's not my intent at all.
Originally posted by tomcat
1. Too many "big" mistakes were made starting with rummy. Why have a SecDef with no no real military leadership experience, especially when you have Colin Powell in the administration.
Originally posted by tomcat2. It is my understanding that there is no provision for the life of the mother,incest, rape. Why is it mostly men crying out against this.
Originally posted by tomcat3. He nominated Gonzales only for the hispanic vote, he has made no real legal
decisions.
Originally posted by tomcat4. I do not have family and canot find a job in this sterling economy. I would only agree
a flat tax that benefits everyone. You do not need to be a genius to be an Ivy League graduate.
Originally posted by tomcat5. There are more important issues than this.
Originally posted by tomcat6. I do not really want or trust the government to invest my money.
Originally posted by tomcat7. His proposal to allow more immigration and not tightening the borders is another
tactic to get the Hispanic vote.
Originally posted by tomcat8. Instead of labeling someone a conservative or a liberal try to compromise. One
persons or parties veiw is not sent from God.
Originally posted by tomcat9. I do not know if I can trust Kerry, but I do know I cant trust Bush to make good policy.
Originally posted by tomcat10. Who cares about his religous "epifany". Many people change their ways.