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Originally posted by Terminal1
Originally posted by grahag
Originally posted by Terminal1
Ya know I think a person would have to lead a pretty boring life if one didn't find his or her name on some list somewhere.
But to sit here and think that everyone in the "civilized" world has a folder or file on them somewhere is a sobering thought.
I don't think I'm on a list and I'm certainly not boring. I'm a peaceful citizen and I don't fear my government. I don't "fear" easily, and the few times that I've felt afraid were due to personal safety and not my liberties... I consider myself a fairly liberal person as well. I don't mind anyone owning guns and I think personal responsibility is important. You make a choice, you accept those consequences.
The government is not out to get YOU personally.
LIES!!
You are on MY list now...
>.>
Originally posted by groingrinder
Simply put. When people fear the government, you have tyranny. When government fears the people, you have liberty. As for me, give liberty or give me death.
Who among you feels they have been well served by the government and their banker friends?
"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
Status: We have not found any evidence that Thomas Jefferson said or wrote, "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny," or any of its listed variations.
Comments: One source attributes this quotation to Thomas Jefferson in The Federalist.[4] The Federalist, however, was the work of Alexander Hamilton, John Jay, and James Madison; it also does not contain the text of this quotation. This quotation is vaguely similar to Jefferson's comment in an 1825 letter to William Short: "Some are whigs, liberals, democrats, call them what you please. Others are tories, serviles, aristocrats, &c. The latter fear the people, and wish to transfer all power to the higher classes of society; the former consider the people as the safest depository of power in the last resort; they cherish them therefore, and wish to leave in them all the powers to the exercise of which they are competent."