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Why Should I Vote For Kerry?

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posted on Oct, 11 2004 @ 11:06 AM
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Can anyone out there tell me why i should vote for Kerry. I don't want to hear why i should not vote for Bush but rather why i should vote for Kerry. What is Kerry going to do that the current Administration has not been able to accomplish and how does he plans to do it. I've heard alot of promises but i have not heard how he will meet these promises.

NO BUSH BASHING Please, just tell me what Kerry is going to do. I like Kerry's views on stem cell research but thats about all i've heard.



posted on Oct, 11 2004 @ 11:07 AM
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and that's about all you will hear.

Kerry keeps saying he has a "plan for this"...and "a plan for that"....but he has never detailed anything whatsoever.



posted on Oct, 11 2004 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by moxyone
and that's about all you will hear.

Kerry keeps saying he has a "plan for this"...and "a plan for that"....but he has never detailed anything whatsoever.


You beat me to it... I was just gonna say... He's got plans.....


I think this is a good question... if anyone has heard of or know's of Kerry's plans that he keeps talking about, some detail certainly would be appreciated here...



posted on Oct, 11 2004 @ 11:11 AM
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well I should have known....

went to Kerry's website... www.johnkerry.com...


and you have to sign up or make a contribution...

I'm still searching...



posted on Oct, 11 2004 @ 11:13 AM
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Edit : nevermind.. that site was basically a Bash President Bush Site..

sorry


[edit on 11-10-2004 by elevatedone]



posted on Oct, 11 2004 @ 11:17 AM
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My wife got an e-mail questionnaire that supposedly would tell you which candidate best reflected your views after you answered some questions......well, the questions were along the lines of "is health-care important to you"? etc etc.

Well, you guessed it, it seems John Kerry is the only candidate concerned about health-care etc etc....I asked my wife "how is John Kerry going to improve health-care"? She didn't know.

And neither does John Kerry.



posted on Oct, 11 2004 @ 11:30 AM
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If you go to johnkerry.com you don't have to sign up or make a contribution. There is any area that says to skip registration and continue.

And about the questionaire moxyone, I took it as well. I took it multiple times marking different answers and every time it came out to favor Kerry. It was the most ludicrous and irresponsible questionaire I have ever seen. The one I took was on AOL's welcome page at one time. Not sure where it still is. Even if you don't mark ANY answers but go all the way to the end it will have Kerry listed as a first choice. Both Kerry and Bush will have 0% next to them but Kerry is listed first which doesn't make sense considering B comes before K and you would think they would list them alphabetically!

Antipolitrix there was a thread on here a few days ago that asked for Kerry's acheivements and it turned into a lot of Bush bashing but it might be worth checking out if people can't give you any answers here.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Jemison



posted on Oct, 11 2004 @ 11:44 AM
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Well, I am voting for John Kerry, and he DOES have a plan for health care. Please people, stop saying he has no plans, because every time you do, you show your true ignorance on your position. Read this for a complete outline of his plan.

personalinsure.about.com...

Dont you think maybe we should stop the personal attacks on opponents views and concentrate on what makes your candidate a good candidate? Im starting to feel like im in a kendergarden class and kids are fighting over who has the coolest toy! Grow up! (Thats directed to ALL bashers, not just Kerry bashers, or Bush bashers)

[edit on 10/11/04 by Kidfinger]



posted on Oct, 11 2004 @ 11:50 AM
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I went to your link and the only detail given was that it is

NATIONAL HEALTH CARE.

No wonder KERRY doesn't like to detail it.

And YOU"RE VOTING for this SOCIALISM?


god help us all.



posted on Oct, 11 2004 @ 11:52 AM
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Well, since you went to the link, I guess you read this:

1. Give Everyone Access to FEHBP: The Federal Employees Health Care Benefits Program is the insurance program that federal employees currently use for their insurance needs. Kerry emphasizes that every American will be able to afford the premiums of FEHBP with tax credits to individual and the self-employed. Automatic coverage will be given to unemployed Americans and retirees below the age of 65.

2. Every Child Covered: Subject to certain conditions, the Federal government will give reimbursement to states for Medicare coverage and eligibility will be expanded to include more children.

3. Medical Research Support: Kerry supports finding new treatments and preventions for diseases and not making it a political decision.

4. Keeping Health Care Affordable: Kerry plans to supply small businesses with refundable tax credits under certain qualifications in order to keep premiums down. He also will provide an individual tax credit to help cover premiums when people are in-between jobs and want to carry insurance with them. In addition, Kerry will give retirees health care at an affordable price through the FEHBP with individual tax credits.

5. Protect Medicare: Kerry supports a prescription drug benefit and does not support forcing seniors into HMOs.

6. A New Way to Control Costs: Employers would be reimbursed for certain catastrophic losses if the employer would guarantee to pass the savings down to the workers. In addition, Kerry estimates approximately 25% of health care money is spent on unneeded insurance paperwork. He feels this estimate needs to be lower and supports more technology to cut unneeded costs and will offer incentives to health care providers and insurers to update technology.

7. Prescription Drug Benefit: Kerry supports a prescription drug benefit for Medicare, but not one that relies on HMOs. Kerry would also use the government to get involved in working with drug wholesalers to pass discounts to consumers. Kerry also supports Americans buying prescription drugs from Canada.

8. Fairness for Mental Health Needs: Kerry wants mental health benefits to be treated equally to physical health benefits and would like to reduce the stigma in seeking medical help related to mental illness.

9. Affordable Malpractice Insurance for Doctors

10. Patients Bill of Rights: Kerry believes health care decisions should not be made by HMOs and will support a patients bill of rights and an appeal process that will hold HMOs accountable.

Previously, when John Edwards took a try at running for president he unveiled a health care plan that had the focus on insuring children. Now that he has teamed up with John Kerry, his original health care plan is important because it can give one a glimpse into the future of how Kerry and Edwards may combine some of their ideas to form possibly the next solution to solve America's health care crisis.


Sounds like a plan to me.



posted on Oct, 11 2004 @ 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by Kidfinger
Sounds like a plan to me.


That sounds like an expensive plan. How does he plan to knock out the federal debt (in four years), fix the health care system (with tax credits), and fight a smarter war on terror with out raising taxes. I am confused.



posted on Oct, 11 2004 @ 01:38 PM
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In the article, it goes on to say that Kerry will recend the tax cuts that Bush gave to the wealthy. That in itself should pay for this plan, as well as have money left over for other projects. Agian, sounds like a plan to me.



posted on Oct, 11 2004 @ 01:42 PM
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the tax-cuts were not "just for the wealthy".

they were for every working american.

raising taxes on the "wealthy" should pay for national health care?

money left over/ are you a standup comic?

anyway you slice it, its called socialism, and its unamerican.



posted on Oct, 11 2004 @ 01:45 PM
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Quit acting like a 10 year old and grow up please. A question was asked and I tried to answer it. You need to find someone else to draw into you littl childish arguments. I will not respond to you agian if you dont show a little respect. Any questions?



posted on Oct, 11 2004 @ 01:55 PM
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childish argument?

what are you talking about?

The simple fact is, nationalized health care will place an enormous tax burden an ALL AMERICANS, while reducing the quality of that care due to government inefficiencies/waste/incompetence.

and thats that, kiddo.



posted on Oct, 11 2004 @ 03:24 PM
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Opps. Your wish for more information as to why you should vote for Kerry. If you vote for Kerry, we can have a national health care system,(socialistic) we as a nation would have to comply with the world court, instead of the one down the street. (lmao) .... Lets see, oh there would be a draft, as he stated, have to have a larger military. Tax , tax, and more taxes.
He has been in the senate for 20 years, he hasn't helped this country (skips all the details) or has he? Our country is in a middle of a war, with threats everyday, we don't know if Kerry could handle any of this. Now do we? All we have for records is his senate voting records, and the ones in the military during the 70's. If he doesn't get the position for president, remember he can always go back and continue filling bottels with ketchup.... Either way he still wins....How about that...



posted on Oct, 11 2004 @ 03:34 PM
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Here is something from factcheck.org on Kerry's healthplan:




Kerry closed by saying "I have a plan to provide health care to all Americans." He doesn't. His plan would extend coverage to between 24 and 27 million Americans who don't have it now, depending on which estimate one chooses. But none of the estimates predict "all" would be insured. A study by the independent Lewin Group, for example, projects that 92% would have coverage, up from just under 86% in 2003.


factcheck.org...@docID=275.html

Also, someone posted on another thread the financial aspect. Bush's healthcare plan would cost 150 million a year and Kerrys would be 650 million a year. That's quite a difference, especially when you consider that under Kerry, according to factcheck, he would only be increasing the amount of insured from just under 86% covered last year to 92%. That might be a slight improvement, but it is NOT all Americans and the financial increase for only 6% is pretty outrageous.

IMHO if we stopped footing the bill for all of the medical care that the illegals are receiving that would be enough to provide coverage for ALL AMERICANS. Now THAT is a good plan!!!


Jemison



posted on Oct, 11 2004 @ 03:55 PM
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No Plan?

Here's Kerry's Plan for Health Care....

www.johnkerry.com...

Plan for Winning the Peace in Iraq...

www.johnkerry.com...

Etc., Etc. all laid out in more detail....as well as a detail plan for several other key issues.

Those who say there is no plan, simply aren't looking. BTW, this was found with about a 5 second Google search...


For me it's not so much why I should vote FOR Kerry, but AGAINST President Bush....

Bush has...

1. Taken us from a budget SURPLUS to a budget DEFICIT.
2. Made the US reviled around the world, for engaging in a war based on now proven lies.
3. Still failed to bring the one responsible for 9/11 to Justice.
4. Increasingly cut taxes on the rich.
5. Vowed to oppose embryonic stem cell research.
6. Destroyed or weakened long standing alliances.
7. Sent soldiers into battle ill-equipped, and in too few a number to complete their objective.
8. Turned Iraq into a haven for foreign terrorists and martyrs, by failing to secure borders during the invasion.
9. Seen the emergence of two new nuclear powers, BOTH of whom are on his "Axis of Evil" list.
10. Failed to "wrap up" the battle in Afghanistan.



posted on Oct, 11 2004 @ 06:43 PM
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Originally posted by AntiPolitrix
Can anyone out there tell me why i should vote for Kerry. I don't want to hear why i should not vote for Bush but rather why i should vote for Kerry. What is Kerry going to do that the current Administration has not been able to accomplish and how does he plans to do it. I've heard alot of promises but i have not heard how he will meet these promises.

NO BUSH BASHING Please, just tell me what Kerry is going to do. I like Kerry's views on stem cell research but thats about all i've heard.


This is a Great question. The only way that I can see one actually voting FOR him is hatred for Bush. He is an extremely LIBERAL senator with a shady war record.

He will NOT release his war record and that should scare a potential voter.


But I can not think of a legitimate reason except the first like I stated.

Anyone but Bush, but is THAT a reason to ignore the man AND his record?



posted on Oct, 11 2004 @ 08:02 PM
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Here's the reason you should vote for Kerry.

If you want more terrorist attacks on our soil, the war in Iraq to drag out for years, more of our military people getting sent back to the states in body-bags, taxes to sky-rocket out of sight, a government healthcare program where people will die before they can get decent treatment, the U.N.'s presence on American soil, our rights to arms stripped, and millions of un-born, human babies "harvested" for medical research, then John F. Kerry is the man.




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