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Originally posted by CosmicCitizen
The state probably should get involved and ban (sorry folks but some things should be pre judged) the adoption of children by same sex couples. It does not promote a traditional family. The media wants to promote a "new normal" for the definition of a family but if gay or lesbian couples can not have children on their own because nature did not intend it then they should be allowed to adopt. The welfare of the children should trump the desire of the couple to have children (as is the precedent). I will not apologize if this offends anyone. This is one situation where I do favor more action/protection from the state.
Originally posted by conspiracyrus
reply to post by nixie_nox
See? It all just escalates. Christians arent bigots. Bigots are bigots... If were just going to slander every single person who has a differing point of view then it will simply escalate. Should a pastor say people should kidnap homosexual couples kids? No he shouldn't but he can say whatever he wants. Do all christian / catholics agree? No. Its a fine line between offering your own opinion and attacking someone. If your just going to attack people your no better than the guy who said he was going to kidnap children.
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Yup.
Oh you thought the headline was perhaps senastionalist? Taken out of context?
The American Family Association’s Bryan Fischer has sunk to a new, disturbing low with his anti-gay statements. In two separate tweets last night, he called for an “Underground Railroad to deliver innocent children from same-sex households.” In one tweet he was referring to the sad story of Lisa Miller, who, after declaring herself ex-gay, kidnapped her daughter away to Central America to prevent her former partner from having any custody. (She is still being tracked by federal agents as a fugitive of the law.)
Think Progress
Now that's from a source I would normally just call on the far right, or far left of social propaganda. And ignore any other nonsense they talk about other than this specific piece of text above, the purpose of this conversation.
It doesn't surprise me that crazy, extremist people make these sorts of statement in public and really think it's ok. I'm not really bothered by the Fred Phelp's of the world and their hatred.
What concerns me, is the complete and total lack of outrage from the same side who are moderates. Who I would think are more intelligent and concerned with the actual problems of the world, instead of non issues like sexuality.
I think we'll all agree that kidnapping children from their respective parents, who have done nothing other than be different in the eyes of some, is insanity.
Why do we allow extremists to represent us? Why, if the majority are moderates and we all very well know our numbers are greater than theirs, do we remain silent?
A culture of apathy exists within our collective society. One that allows for injustice and insanity for comfort.
~Tenth
edit on 8/8/2012 by tothetenthpower because: (no reason given)edit on 8/8/2012 by tothetenthpower because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by korathin
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Yup.
Oh you thought the headline was perhaps senastionalist? Taken out of context?
The American Family Association’s Bryan Fischer has sunk to a new, disturbing low with his anti-gay statements. In two separate tweets last night, he called for an “Underground Railroad to deliver innocent children from same-sex households.” In one tweet he was referring to the sad story of Lisa Miller, who, after declaring herself ex-gay, kidnapped her daughter away to Central America to prevent her former partner from having any custody. (She is still being tracked by federal agents as a fugitive of the law.)
Think Progress
Now that's from a source I would normally just call on the far right, or far left of social propaganda. And ignore any other nonsense they talk about other than this specific piece of text above, the purpose of this conversation.
It doesn't surprise me that crazy, extremist people make these sorts of statement in public and really think it's ok. I'm not really bothered by the Fred Phelp's of the world and their hatred.
What concerns me, is the complete and total lack of outrage from the same side who are moderates. Who I would think are more intelligent and concerned with the actual problems of the world, instead of non issues like sexuality.
I think we'll all agree that kidnapping children from their respective parents, who have done nothing other than be different in the eyes of some, is insanity.
Why do we allow extremists to represent us? Why, if the majority are moderates and we all very well know our numbers are greater than theirs, do we remain silent?
A culture of apathy exists within our collective society. One that allows for injustice and insanity for comfort.
~Tenth
edit on 8/8/2012 by tothetenthpower because: (no reason given)edit on 8/8/2012 by tothetenthpower because: (no reason given)
Where can I donate money to this cause? Seriously, stop thinking people care about homosexuals. The reason why the majority is silent is because we agree with the anti homosexual extremists to a certain degree. Personally, I don't care what homosexuals do behind closed doors, but what homosexuals have done in hijacking our society in an effort to shove homosexuality down our throats, well I am beginning to understand why the Bible say's what it say's.
Originally posted by r2d246
Well I'm just gonna state the obvious...
1) The kid grows up with gay parents
2) The kid becomes gay (to them that's normal)
3) The kid grows up and finds a gay lover
4) The gay eventually dies and is sent to hell forever.
Maybe this is why they're saying it's better to try and normalize the child than what could happen.
Originally posted by r2d246
Well I'm just gonna state the obvious...
1) The kid grows up with gay parents
2) The kid becomes gay (to them that's normal)
3) The kid grows up and finds a gay lover
4) The gay eventually dies and is sent to hell forever.
Maybe this is why they're saying it's better to try and normalize the child than what could happen.
Originally posted by r2d246
Well I'm just gonna state the obvious...
1) The kid grows up with gay parents
2) The kid becomes gay (to them that's normal)
3) The kid grows up and finds a gay lover
4) The gay eventually dies and is sent to hell forever.
Maybe this is why they're saying it's better to try and normalize the child than what could happen.
Originally posted by Believer101
Originally posted by r2d246
Well I'm just gonna state the obvious...
1) The kid grows up with gay parents
2) The kid becomes gay (to them that's normal)
3) The kid grows up and finds a gay lover
4) The gay eventually dies and is sent to hell forever.
Maybe this is why they're saying it's better to try and normalize the child than what could happen.
If all gay kids come from gay parents, how do you explain all of those straight kids that came from same-sex homes? Same goes for gay kids from straight parents. How do you explain all of those gay kids that came from straight parents?
Originally posted by r2d246
Well I'm just gonna state the obvious...
1) The kid grows up with gay parents
2) The kid becomes gay (to them that's normal)
3) The kid grows up and finds a gay lover
4) The gay eventually dies and is sent to hell forever.
Maybe this is why they're saying it's better to try and normalize the child than what could happen.
Originally posted by elitegamer23
Originally posted by r2d246
Well I'm just gonna state the obvious...
1) The kid grows up with gay parents
2) The kid becomes gay (to them that's normal)
3) The kid grows up and finds a gay lover
4) The gay eventually dies and is sent to hell forever.
Maybe this is why they're saying it's better to try and normalize the child than what could happen.
hey i know a guy who grew up with a gay father and now he is happily married to a woman and loves his two kids more than you were obviously loved.
im just stating the obvious.
when did ats become filled with so many hate mongering christians?
some of you people disgrace your jesus christ.
Originally posted by r2d246
Originally posted by elitegamer23
Originally posted by r2d246
Well I'm just gonna state the obvious...
1) The kid grows up with gay parents
2) The kid becomes gay (to them that's normal)
3) The kid grows up and finds a gay lover
4) The gay eventually dies and is sent to hell forever.
Maybe this is why they're saying it's better to try and normalize the child than what could happen.
hey i know a guy who grew up with a gay father and now he is happily married to a woman and loves his two kids more than you were obviously loved.
im just stating the obvious.
when did ats become filled with so many hate mongering christians?
some of you people disgrace your jesus christ.
Well what I'm saying is there's a serious risk of this. And we're not hate mongering. Just because I'm saying what most Christians believe doesn't mean I hate anyone. The whole point of some of these seemingly politically incorrect actions is extreme love. They know that you have to be politically incorrect sometimes in order to do the right thing. Something a non Christian will have a hard time understanding. Again no hate bro, just telling it straight that's all.
Originally posted by r2d246
Well I'm just gonna state the obvious...
1) The kid grows up with gay parents
2) The kid becomes gay (to them that's normal)
3) The kid grows up and finds a gay lover
4) The gay eventually dies and is sent to hell forever.
Maybe this is why they're saying it's better to try and normalize the child than what could happen.