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Originally posted by ImaFungi
reply to post by openlocks
"since you exist and existence is you and existence exists as it is, then it only makes sense to exist as you are"
"then it only makes sense to exist as you are"
that is the problem,, there are so many details and causes and effects that goes into creating you as you are in every moment...
we all start out as babies,,,, should all babies continue to exist as they are? no they need to be programmed and grow strong to seek proper habits and stability... the programming of education and culture comes in many different forms,,,,, should terrorists continue to exist as they are ( our government doesnt think so)? a lot had to go into turning a baby into a terrorist,, an entire life is an attempt at being a stable, orderly system in a chaotic and variable filled world..
Originally posted by ImaFungi
reply to post by openlocks
"since you exist and existence is you and existence exists as it is, then it only makes sense to exist as you are"
"then it only makes sense to exist as you are"
that is the problem,, there are so many details and causes and effects that goes into creating you as you are in every moment...
we all start out as babies,,,, should all babies continue to exist as they are? no they need to be programmed and grow strong to seek proper habits and stability... the programming of education and culture comes in many different forms,,,,, should terrorists continue to exist as they are ( our government doesnt think so)? a lot had to go into turning a baby into a terrorist,, an entire life is an attempt at being a stable, orderly system in a chaotic and variable filled world..
Originally posted by arpgme
Ya see, this is where a lot of people would just accept this theory because 'some scientists' said so.
Energy is NOT conscious information. It takes energy to create the atoms, that create the physical material, that create machines (computers or brains), that can create conscious information. If we didn't need this process, then we wouldn't need computers. I could just send you information that would appear in mid air in front of you. Not gonna happen.
Originally posted by ImaFungi
reply to post by openlocks
"My point is, why even start this process at all? Why attempt to become anything if all it does is inflate our egos through pride of apparent success and makes us miserable through shame of apparent failure? It seems social conditioning has caused us all to have this picture of an "ideal self" in our minds, and we torment ourselves trying to become that "ideal self", something which never existed but as a mere social construct created by other people who have also bought into this illusory game"
you may struggle with these things,, but dont project that on to other people,.,,. everything about that is over complicating it or complicating it at all,,.,. people think being physically fit is important,,, its a yes or no thing,,, yes they value it highly,,, they will work out,,, people desiree a better job to provide for their family,, they will go to school and get a higher education,,.,.,.. most people live fine lives doing things their own way and living with and as themselves,,, I know I know I know,,,, I know what you mean and meant,,,
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by ImaFungi
Humans think they have to become - when they are already.
The 'wanting' to become causes suffering. Being does not suffer.
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by ImaFungi
Humans think they have to become - when they are already.
The 'wanting' to become causes suffering. Being does not suffer.
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by ImaFungi
To be or not to be? That is the question.
Originally posted by ImaFungi
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by ImaFungi
To be or not to be? That is the question.
If you are, why not be? that is my question,,, All that be's eventually be's not,,, eventually not being as you are is guaranteed,, why not be?
Originally posted by ImaFungi
reply to post by Itisnowagain
Being is constant becoming
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by ImaFungi
There is only this.
And this does not have to become - it is.