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WAR: Al-Sadr Agrees to Weapons Hand Over

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posted on Oct, 9 2004 @ 08:39 AM
After weeks of talks between members PM Allawi's cabinet, religious leaders and members of Al-Sadr's group, Al-Sadr and followers have agreed to starting handing over weapons to Iraqi Police. The agreement would mean that militia would turn over weapons and the US/Coalition would stop attacks on the city and on Al-Sadr's group.
The government wants to restore enough security in Sadr City and other insurgent strongholds for national elections to take place in January. Similar negotiations are under way with representatives of rebel-held Fallujah, a Sunni Muslim bastion west of the capital.

Al-Sadr's movement is still pressing for guarantees that the government will stop pursuing militia members, release the cleric's detained followers and compensate residents for losses suffered during the fighting. But Smeisem said the movement was willing to wait for an agreement on those points.

Al-Sadr has not pledged to disband his militia, a key U.S. and Iraqi government demand. But American and Iraqi authorities are eager to restore peace in as many areas of the country as possible without major bloodshed.

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This remains to be seen, since Al-Sadr is infamous for his double talk and standards. There are reports of explosions and fighting still in the area, so perhaps the militia didn't get the notice of a weapons hand over yet. I find this scenario to be very unlikely and would be pleasantly surprised if it actually happens.

[edit on 10-9-2004 by worldwatcher]

posted on Oct, 9 2004 @ 09:12 AM
Unfortunately, I think this is one if those too good to be true scenerios. Al Sadr has the luxery of backing out of this since no one is really going to hold him up to his promise.

[edit on 9-10-2004 by mpeake]

posted on Oct, 9 2004 @ 09:16 AM
It also remains to be seen if the coalition will live up to their end of the deal.

I think it's doubtful that they will.

Here are his demands:

Al Sadr deal
Al-Sadr's movement is still pressing for guarantees that the government will stop pursuing its militia members, release the cleric's detained followers and compensate residents for losses suffered during the fighting. But Smeisem said the movement is willing to wait for an agreement on those points.

posted on Oct, 9 2004 @ 09:21 AM
Well we have to be fair here maybe Al Sadr has his militia and is responsible of many of the terrorist attack against American and coalition troops, but its also many other militia groups and terrorist groups that do no fallow under Al Sadr's ranks so even if he disbands his militia for a political career move is still going to be terrorist attacks going on and insurgents will still be causing trouble.

We can not pin the troubles in Iraq all on him.

posted on Oct, 9 2004 @ 01:11 PM
This group has gone back on their word a number of times. Anything they agree to is suspect till concluded.

posted on Oct, 9 2004 @ 01:39 PM
It wasn't Sadr who went back on the last peace deal, it was Allawi.

Iraqi peace deal canceled (Aug 31 2004)
The agreement on Sadr City, reached after several days of negotiations, had come on the heels of the withdrawal of al-Sadr's forces from the city of Najaf last week after the intervention of Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, the country's most powerful religious leader.

Mahdi Army commanders and other Iraqi sources said Tuesday that Allawi backed out of the agreement Tuesday morning. Simultaneous news conferences scheduled by Allawi and the Mahdi Army to announce their earlier deal were called off.

I'm not sure about the first deal, Im still researching that one.

posted on Oct, 9 2004 @ 02:21 PM
It looks like the first deal made have been broken by the coalition also:

August 2004 hostilities

After the 4 June truce with the occupation forces, al-Sadr took steps to disband the Madhi army. In a statement, he called on militia members from outside Najaf to "do their duty" and go home. US forces in Najaf were then replaced by Iraqi police. Al-Sadr told supporters not to attack Iraqi security forces and set himself up to become a political force, announcing his intention to form a party and contest the 2005 elections. He said the interim government was an opportunity to build a unified Iraq. Interim President Ghazi Yawer gave assurances that al-Sadr could join the political process provided he abandoned his militia. Iraqi officials also assured al-Sadr that he was not to face arrest.

Despite the promises of the Iraqi government, in late July Sadr announced his intention to boycott the upcoming national conference, as did the Association of Muslim Scholars, a Sunni organization linked to Sadr. Although Sadr initially promised to support the conference, he changed his mind, claiming through a spokesman that it was "a sad joke" and "a trick on the Iraqi people" because of the allegedly undemocratic process for selecting the delegates. On 31 July, Sadr's representative in Karbala, Sheikh Mithal al Hasnawi and his brother were captured by US and Iraqi National Guard troops in a joint raid Sadr representatives condemned the move, reportedly saying "We demand that they be freed, and if this is ignored then we will respond at the appropriate time"

The June settlement was broken after Iraqi policemen and US troops surrounded al-Sadr's home on 3 August, resulting in heavy gunfire, mortar shelling and grenade blasts. The apparent aim was to arrest al-Sadr and destroy his movement. The decision to extend a firefight into extended combat is reported to have been made by U.S. Marines, without the approval of the Pentagon or the Allawi government.

He did speak out against the Iraqi national conference, because of the selection of delegates (link) but that is his right to speak out on matters pertaining to the Iraqi government.

posted on Oct, 9 2004 @ 03:29 PM
One thing is for sure Allawi is going to do anything he can to keep Al-Sadr looking like enemy number one, see while Allawi is not even liked or known by the Iraqi people Al-Sadr has already followers.

Allawi is US favorite for the elections and US will do anything to keep him were it can help the "American Interests" US can not have in power sombody elected by the Iraqis that does not wants the "American Interests" in Iraq

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