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Congress not fully informed before Iraq War

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posted on Oct, 8 2004 @ 02:44 AM
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The congress including John F. Kerry were NOT informed of STRONG DISSENT by the Energy department of the 'aluminum tube's' useability in a centrifuge.

The next day, Energy Department officials ticked off a long list of reasons why the tubes did not appear well suited for centrifuges. Simply put, the analysis concluded that the tubes were THE WRONG SIZE - too narrow, too heavy, too long - to be of much practical use in a centrifuge.

The tubes now sought by Iraq had precisely the same dimensions - A PERFECT MATCH [for combustion chambers for slim rockets fired from launcher pods.].
www.nytimes.com...

But several Congressional and intelligence officials with access to the 15 assessments said not one of them informed senior policy makers of the Energy Department's dissent [over usability of the 'aluminum tubes' for a centrifuge]

"They NEVER LAY OUT THE OTHER CASE," one Congressional official said of those C.I.A. assessments.
www.nytimes.com...

The Whitehouse had information THEY DID NOT SHARE with the congress.

Excuse me Mr. Bush, but John F. Kerry DID NOT have access to all the information you did.

Bush and Cheney MISLED us into war.
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[edit on 8-10-2004 by John bull 1]



posted on Oct, 8 2004 @ 10:18 AM
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The CIA briefs the White House. The CIA brief congress. The White House doesn't brief congress.



posted on Oct, 8 2004 @ 10:42 AM
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lie2 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (l)
n.

1. A false statement deliberately presented as being true; a falsehood.
2. Something meant to deceive or give a wrong impression.

When you lead a country to war based on withholding VITAL information it is a LIE. It is treasonous.
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posted on Oct, 8 2004 @ 01:45 PM
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I guess we should get rid of classified information period. Is the way to make everyone safe to give everyone all of the information? Have you ever heard of 'confidential,' 'secret,' and 'top secret'?



posted on Oct, 8 2004 @ 01:49 PM
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Vatar, when the "top secret" thing that Bush is keeping a secret is the fact Iraq has no WMDs, then tells congress Saddam has them, that is wrong.



posted on Oct, 8 2004 @ 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by vatar
I guess we should get rid of classified information period. Is the way to make everyone safe to give everyone all of the information? Have you ever heard of 'confidential,' 'secret,' and 'top secret'?


Bush claimed that Kerry saw every bit of information he saw when his decision was made. If this holds out to be true, then He did not see everything. Kerry as of right now is also to be receiving ALL Intell reports that Bush does.



posted on Oct, 8 2004 @ 03:58 PM
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Vatar, when the "top secret" thing that Bush is keeping a secret is the fact Iraq has no WMDs, then tells congress Saddam has them, that is wrong.

Why would Bush tell congress anything? The entire flow of intelligence is built specifically to keep this kind of situation from occuring. If Kerry or Edwards had bothered to show up for the Senate Intelligence Committee that both have sat on during at least part of their careers as senators, they might have found out what the real intelligence was. But they didn't want to be bothered with the facts.

Both the White House and Senate are important enough to get intelligence straight from the source, the CIA (,NSA, FBI, etc.). There is no chain of one person tells another person, then that person decides whether or not to tell the next person in the chain, then that person tells someone else. The White House and the Senate are at equal levels if you want to think of it as an org chart.



posted on Oct, 8 2004 @ 06:19 PM
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Information about aluminum tubes being almost certainly used as rockets is dispersed to Intelligence community and Whitehouse, but NOT the Congress :

The tubes now sought by Iraq had precisely the same dimensions - a perfect match [for slim rockets fired from launcher pods].

That finding was published May 9, 2001, in the Daily Intelligence Highlight, a secret Energy Department newsletter published on Intelink, a Web site for the intelligence community and the White House.

Some tried to argue that the tubes could be 'adapted'. An energy department spokesperson replied,

Yes, it was theoretically possible, but as an Energy Department analyst later told Senate investigators, it was also theoretically possible to "turn your new Yugo into a Cadillac."

The Whitehouse Knew and didn't inform congress:

But several Congressional and intelligence officials with access to the 15 assessments said not one of them informed senior policy makers of the Energy Department's dissent.

"They never lay out the other case," one Congressional official said of those C.I.A. assessments.


Selective truth telling is just another way to LIE.

John F. Kerry and the rest of congress DID NOT have access to all the same intelligence the Whitehouse did.

What they did get was the LEAST LIKELY EXPLANATION and Were NOT told the what the likely TRUTH was.
www.nytimes.com...
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[edit on 8-10-2004 by slank]




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