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Originally posted by grumpydaysleeper
Good question.
That's what I want to know too.
Originally posted by timetothink
I don't think ANYONE knows....even the CBO said there is no way to calculate the cost to consumer or government. And if health insurance companies are still doing business as usual, then everyone would have to shop for the best price.....the big question is....now that it is definitely a tax...does everyone have to pay it on top of healthcare premiums or only those who refuse to pay for a healthcare plan? And what is the cutoff for the new poverty line? "They" are saying the poverty line will be raised for Obamacare so more people will be eligible for medicare/caid...and that of course will raise costs which has to be paid for somehow.
I see a big 'ole snowball coming our way...
Originally posted by Celestial1
I'm so glad you made this thread! I have been searching for a while now but I still don't feel like I'm finding out what it exactly is other than what you mentioned and some stuff about medicare. There has got to be more given all the upheaval it's brought about.
If anyone knows, my question is how or if at all will it affect a person like myself whose employer pays 100% of my premium each month?
Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by jude11
I totally agree, I was just using the CBO's wording...it's all our money in the end. The problem is this thing is a train gone off the rails, I do not see anyway to nail down a cost to an individual because it will constantly be changing. It's a nightmare.
Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by jude11
We did an extensive breake down of Obama care and its provisions here in ATS back when it was been put on the table, one of the problems with it is just that, you will find out how much is going to cost when you are forced to buy insurance.
Just remember that the ones behind the health care reform is big insurance companies and big pharma, remember also that the ones behind the close door meetings on this were them and Obama.
So with that up front do not expect to be affordable in a nation like us that is all for profits.
I can tell you that my husband is retire with government subsided health care we just got jam with an increase last month on our prescriptions and next will be an increase on premiums and co pays one triple the other one will double, with that say I can only imagine what is heading next to those that are not on government benefits.
Obamacare is not what people think.
edit on 28-6-2012 by marg6043 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by jude11
Hey Jude (couldn't help myself) do you have healthcare now?
What I want to know is do we really get to keep what we have now?
I will be really pissed if I lose what we have....
Originally posted by Celestial1
reply to post by marg6043
I believe that it is not what people think it is at all! The majority of people I talk to about it have told me it is universal healthcare or free healthcare. Now, I don't know a lot but I do know that it is neither.
I fear that we will find out in the days (or years) to come that it was just a 'front' and the real things they were so eager to get passed are burried in the thousands of pages so most wouldn't figure out what it's really about.
Originally posted by Celestial1
reply to post by timetothink
From what I do understand, it will be easier for people to get the free gov. healthcare also, they will be raising the max you can make to qualify.
Is that the plan, to get more people relying on the government? Harder to question or fight them when you depend on them for something like health insurance, especially if you have children.