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US Concentration Camp- Something I just saw 10-6-04

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posted on Oct, 6 2004 @ 07:31 AM
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Im not sure if this is the right place and I couldnt find anything on this but here goes.

This morning I was running late for school so I was in a hurry. Of course I was stopped by a train, and was a little frustrated so I was focusing on it pretty intensely. After the first set of cars passed I noticed they were in a pattern. Three white cars followed by one black fuel car. Each set had different markings the first was FPAX and the second was GCEE, I dont remember the others. It had three engines in the front, the pattern went on for about five minutes. After the train left my friend that was riding with me said "I wonder why all these cops are here" and it was the first time i noticed them. There were four cars and eight policeman there, two cars four men on one side, same on the other.

Im not saying that this is evidence or anything but its definatly pushed me a little closer to beleiving the concentration camps are real. Any thoughts?

[edit on 19-10-2004 by John bull 1]



posted on Oct, 6 2004 @ 07:40 AM
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That is defently wierd. Can you say where you saw them?
And where there any windows on the cars?



posted on Oct, 6 2004 @ 07:47 AM
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FPAX Canadian


FPAwww.krunk.org...

Probably either grain or anthrax


TUT



posted on Oct, 6 2004 @ 07:49 AM
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it might have been a "nuke train".... when they send nuclear materialon a train then it gets TOP PRIORITY overeverything, the train doesnt stop for nothing and it get police protection where ever possible...they also have "nuke semi trucks" same thing as the trains. They dont stop for anything and it gets state police escort from one state border to another.



posted on Oct, 6 2004 @ 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by Delirious
Each set had different markings the first was FPAX and the second was GCEE, I dont remember the others. It had three engines in the front, the pattern went on for about five minutes.

Produce shipments.


After the train left my friend that was riding with me said "I wonder why all these cops are here" and it was the first time i noticed them. There were four cars and eight policeman there, two cars four men on one side, same on the other.


Coincidence.

If there was something to guard on a train, the guards would be ON the train... not sitting at a crossroads. I've seen police traveling in that sort of configuration; generally when they're taking another team out to the Fleet Service department where the fleet of cop cars are kept AND repaired. This happens after someone gets a new car (for various reasons) and they have to be transported out to the Fleet Department and then they drive back. They obviously can't drive their own cars out there because then they'd be stuck trying to get to and from the station.



posted on Oct, 6 2004 @ 03:02 PM
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I dont know, they were lined parellel to the tracks two on one side two on the other. They were out of their cars. There were eight of them, not two, not four but eight. If they were transporting another officer (which is unlikely considering the ammount of cars and policemen that were standing around) why would they pull beside the tracks and get out of their cars?

Im not sayin that the camp cars is exactly what it was, but I dont think it was just an ordinary coincidence. Iv never seen cops pulls up beside the tracks and get out to wait for a train to pass.

They have transported nuclear material through here too (South Carolina, if anyone remembers the state was pissed because they were transporting it through here). Produce, im not sure why they would need to guard that.



posted on Oct, 6 2004 @ 03:30 PM
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Hmmm....

The FPAX cars are from the Formosa Plastic Corporation. I couldn't find a reference to GCEE, and I don't remember having run across that particular initial before. Were they the tank cars, or the white ones? Were there any hazmat placards on the sides?



posted on Oct, 6 2004 @ 03:40 PM
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Found a reference for GCEE, Georgia Council on Economic Education.
Re-education camps.



posted on Oct, 6 2004 @ 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by valkeryie
Found a reference for GCEE, Georgia Council on Economic Education.
Re-education camps.



Saw that one, too.


Somehow I just couldn't see the connection. But I COULD be wrong!!



posted on Oct, 6 2004 @ 10:37 PM
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All of them were white cars aside from the three engines in the front and the fuel tanks between every three cars. I have no idea what a hazmat placards is though. The only reason that I brought this up is because I read of companies producing white cars with restraints inside, after reading that and seeing the white cars, all of them too, and the cops seemingly gaurding the crossing, just seemed funny. Like I said they have shipped nuclear material through here too, i mean i have no idea what it was BUT that was the first thing that came to my mind.

[edit on 6-10-2004 by Delirious]



posted on Oct, 8 2004 @ 05:01 AM
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I live in a railroad town...a train runs through here at least two times an hour. When I was young, my father used to play a game of counting the boxcars.

Before I found the ATS Utopia, on my way through downtown, a train was pulling through, and I swear to God as I was counting them, one lone boxcar simply said, "INTERPOL."

Ever since then, I look at each boxcar. Haven't seen an INTERPOL one since, but if I do I'll let you know.

Dot.



posted on Oct, 8 2004 @ 01:45 PM
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valkeryie says:

"You cannot achieve victory through strenght of arms"

Tell that to the city fathers of Carthage after the battle of Zama in 212 BC.



posted on Oct, 8 2004 @ 06:40 PM
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well, there was a detention center, or something, a little while back in newyork. this is a story by a guy who was arrested during this procedure. (he was a reporter, i believe):

www.2600.com...

chances are it was simply a convoy containing sensitive information or something like that though.



posted on Oct, 9 2004 @ 04:07 AM
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Originally posted by Off_The_Street
valkeryie says:

"You cannot achieve victory through strenght of arms"

Tell that to the city fathers of Carthage after the battle of Zama in 212 BC.


What are you talking about?

Yeah aggroskater, that wat im thinking now too. After someone brought up the nuclear train thing. It does seem more sensable, after all why would they draw attention to it if it was just detention cars. Thanks for all the input guys.



posted on Oct, 11 2004 @ 11:28 AM
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I don't know anything about nuclear trains. But i have read some compelling info on US concentration camps...

American Concentration Camps via APFN

[edit on 10/11/04 by subliminalr4p3]



posted on Oct, 18 2004 @ 08:21 PM
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Sorry for bringing back this old topic but I just looked into it and was wondering, what part of that site are you refering to?



posted on Oct, 18 2004 @ 08:27 PM
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Originally posted by tututkamen
FPAX Canadian


FPAwww.krunk.org...

Probably either grain or anthrax


TUT




funny thing I hit this link and it immediately went to cant find site is this the correct address



posted on Oct, 18 2004 @ 08:35 PM
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Are you really serious about all of these concentration camp trains
and camps. Just where are these camps, and what are they for?
Do you really think they (PTB) are rounding up people like a herd of cows
and shipping them off to some dreary place? I would like proof on
this claim. If it is really happening, I would suggest we ALL come to
arms over this and get to the bottom of it.

ZOOMER



posted on Oct, 18 2004 @ 08:49 PM
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Coincidence.

If there was something to guard on a train, the guards would be ON the train... not sitting at a crossroads. I've seen police traveling in that sort of configuration; generally when they're taking another team out to the Fleet Service department where the fleet of cop cars are kept AND repaired. This happens after someone gets a new car (for various reasons) and they have to be transported out to the Fleet Department and then they drive back. They obviously can't drive their own cars out there because then they'd be stuck trying to get to and from the station.



not neccisarily true when I went through hazmat response training we were told items like this would carry person on board yes but it is assumed in an accident they would be unreliable or incompacitated witnesses to provide a clear bill of lading for proper response we are instructed to look for groups of cops and or rail road or feds at crossings for further info it is SOP for these trains to be ghosted at high risk accident sites and or hijack potetial sites not to say this particular train is carrying anything of military or research quality but the fact it was being ghosted implies at least on car or more might have high risk material on board as for people it is not an acceptable pratice that cargo haulers or cattle cars be used for transporting large numbers of people for the same reason you dont leave your kid or dog in an auto even if the windows are partially open more than 10 people in an average sealed cargo car for example for 10 hours his have a temperature of approx. 8 to 10 degrees higher than the outside temp the human body can go into a seizure at 105 degrees core temp ruffly 109 outside temp so i dont think it was human cargo as for cattle cars while yes there is ventilation 2 problems exist 1 visibility of the people would draw attention to the train because it is expected that cattle should be in the car the other is again yes more people would be required to raise the temp but it is possible to cause the same affect as the ten people in a sealed car coupled with the adverse reaction of a 70 degree night can show 55 to 60 degree temps at full speed when the dew point is at the moderate level so then you encounter exsposure related illness or in some patients hypothermia ie older persons or those with low blood pressure or clogged arteries could lead to death within 12 to 18 hours of exsposure at this temp so I dont deleive this specific train has quote a concentration camp affiliation the hazmat issue is the more likely and you will find in the tankers is a liquid chlorinated fluid or other fluid capable of causing asphyxiating gasses also ammonia and other chemicals marking are slightly reduced to limit high visibilty to the fact these items are a terrorists dream whats better than an IED on wheels you can cause to spill and never leave evidence such as would be easy to connect to a suspect ....now if the cargo containers where enviromentally controlled some radio active and explosive materials can be expected because they are cooled to lessen their volitility but this again is still unlikely in the train

[edit on 18/10/2004 by drbryankkruta]



posted on Oct, 19 2004 @ 02:30 AM
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I wasnt saying they WERE hauling people. I said that iv read (here on this site) that fully white cars where being refitted with shakles and used as camp cars. I was simply asking for information.



Just where are these camps, and what are they for?


Obviously for detaining people...hence the term "Detention Camps/Centers". If its true? I dont know, im not saying it is.



Do you really think they (PTB) are rounding up people like a herd of cows


I didnt say they were, again I was asking for opinions and information. I do thinks it is possible in the future for them to be used illegally.



I would like proof on


There is no proof. If there was proof it wouldnt be a conspiracy but rather an endangerment and we would be up in arms (hopefully).

drbryankkruta, I beleive that that does make sence, I stated something of the sort above but of the nuclear variety. The cops however were not just "there" like I said they were out of the car standing by the tracks. I dont see any need for these aside from preventing possible entrusion on the train, blocking the tracks, or somthing of that sort for hijacking. Maybe they had chemicals or somthing of the sort, but the happenings werent normal.




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