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Originally posted by stanguilles7
Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
you prove to me there is no chemicals in a contrail.
No. You prove to me there ARE. That's how it works here in reality.
Originally posted by stanguilles7
Originally posted by OutonaLimb
For me, there is ZERO doubt.
Consistently over the last few years, days with trails are days with large numbers of planes.
Days without trails are days with very few planes.
It is catagorical to me.
All that shows is these trails come from planes. It equally proves they are CONDENSATION TRAILS.
You want to prove those lines you see coming from planes are 'chemtrails'? Then do testing to prove the chemicals they are spraying out into the atmosphere exist. Seems like that would be pretty easy to do. Why has no one (credibly) done it yet?
Chemtrail spraying is significantly increased just before a storm front moves in. If the weather report calls for rain the next day, get your camera out and look for the jets laying the long chemtrails in the sky. They are often busy laying the chemtrails as the clouds from the front are moving in. The result is lots of rain clouds with no precipitation. Droughts all over the planet have increased since chemtrail spraying bagan, some 8 years ago. I have concluded that these chemtrails are creating drought conditions and the people doing the spraying want the droughts. Why do you suppose they want to stop the rain
The first generation jet engines had the appearance of a short cigar with the inlet nozzle and the outlet exhaust nozzles about the same size, about 3 feet in diameter. The new next generation jet looks a bit like a side-ways funnel, with the front nozzle opening about 6 times larger than the exhaust in the back, with a tapered cowling running from the large opening in front to the small one in the back. Inside that cowling, at the front, is the "High Bypass Turbofan." It is like a turbocharger add-on for a car. It pumps in extra air into the jet engine. But most of the air flows around and past the engine, between the engine and the cowling. This maintains a constant sea-level air pressure on the engine � during high thrust takeoff and in the extremely thin air at normal cruise level.
The new generation engines never "starve" for air and thus never dump half-unburned smoky fuel out the back. This increases the efficiency of the engine, produces more power and eliminates all the sooty oily black exhaust. You may remember that in the 1970s there were debates and articles about the problem of the unburned and partially burned hydrocarbons jets were spewing into the atmosphere � and in the 1980s those debates went away � because the unburned and partially burned hydrocarbons went away, thanks to the High Bypass Turbofan.
The primary outcomes of the invention of High Bypass Turbofan was to increase the efficiency of the jet engine � which it did by a huge amount � and to produce persistent contrails, now called "chemtrails." First generation jet engines were less than 20% efficient, and the High Bypass Turbofan made them more than 90% efficient! This means it took significantly less fuel to fly an airliner equipped with the High Bypass Turbofan from point A to B, thus a huge increase in profit for the airlines. Plus the same plane could now fly farther on the same tank of fuel. This is a substantial improvement and boon to the airline industry � just by slapping a big ol� fan on the front of the old jet engine. When this simple technique was discovered in the late 1970's all existing jet planes were quickly retrofited with a strap on modification to the front of the engines.
For me, there is ZERO doubt. Consistently over the last few years, days with trails are days with large numbers of planes. Days without trails are days with very few planes. It is catagorical to me.
Originally posted by WeRpeons
Something just doesn't sit right with me. Contrails I observed growing up never crisscrossed like a grid pattern. It's one thing justifying these are new engines causing larger vapor trails, but what does that have to do with the excessive grid flying patterns?
Originally posted by onecraftydude
reply to post by Uncinus
You know, I was beginning to think chemtrails were just jet exhaust until you posted this. Now I am back to wondering if this is propaganda.
Originally posted by AndyMayhew
Originally posted by onecraftydude
reply to post by Uncinus
You know, I was beginning to think chemtrails were just jet exhaust until you posted this. Now I am back to wondering if this is propaganda.
LOL!
If we found a video saying that elephants were elephants, would you start wondering if they were really white mice in disguise?
Seriously, if someone said that elephants were really white mice in disguise, would you believe them? And if not, why do you believe those spreading silly stories about contrails? It's the same thing .....
Originally posted by Uncinus
Weather Channel Founder Debunks Chemtrails
HAARP was built by BAE Advanced Technologies, not Raytheon...
Advanced Power Technologies, Inc. (APTI), a subsidiary of E-Systems, Inc., which is owned by Raytheon Corporation, designed and built HAARP.
Originally posted by luxordelphi
reply to post by Uncinus
E.L.Rothschild LLC Acquires a Majority Stake in Weather Central, LP
70% stake back in 2011 the article says. The article surrounding that article also says that they get their weather from Raytheon, the HAARP builder. Get real. Stop promoting propoganda.
Originally posted by Uncinus
Originally posted by onecraftydude
reply to post by Uncinus
You know, I was beginning to think chemtrails were just jet exhaust until you posted this. Now I am back to wondering if this is propaganda. Now that the good ole USA is tasked with handing out propaganda films for it's citizens as per the house appropriations bill it would make sense that they would use the weather channel guy. He should be right up there with the Fox and Cnbc exec's who are tasked with making up stories about other countries every day to sway public opinion.
So you can see my confusion why this would be posted now instead of before the propaganda was made legal.
I imagine it's now because he finally got tired of chemtrailers bugging him. But there have been similar stories by weathermen since the start of the hoax.
The change in the law regarding propaganda does NOT legalize propaganda in the US. It just allows propaganda that was produced for an overseas audience to be used for non-propaganda purposes in the US. Clearly this does not qualify. See full explanation here:
metabunk.org...