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Originally posted by RealSpoke
The God of the OT and NT actions sounds like they were that of an evil being. Who throws people into hell because they don't believe in them? Seriously? A sadistic EVIL being.
If humans torture they are considered evil, why not a God? Why give special privileges to another self aware sentient being that fully understands the pain it is inflicting on others?
edit on 19-6-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by windword
All you have to do is read the OT and realize that the Gnostics were correct. The god of the OT is an impostor. He is not a loving god but an murderous egomaniac with no regard for the creatures of earth. He is not omnipotent if he had 1/3 of the angels rebel against him. He even had other gods as enemies. His territory and reign was restricted.
Thankfully he is long gone. Most probably banished by higher powers for his mischief.
7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to where he was baptizing, he said to them: “You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath? 8 Produce fruit in keeping with repentance. 9 And do not think you can say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham. 10 The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.
Originally posted by Lazarus Short
Originally posted by RealSpoke
The God of the OT and NT actions sounds like they were that of an evil being. Who throws people into hell because they don't believe in them? Seriously? A sadistic EVIL being.
If humans torture they are considered evil, why not a God? Why give special privileges to another self aware sentient being that fully understands the pain it is inflicting on others?
edit on 19-6-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)
People throw people into fire, God does not. Concerning such things, God was speaking against the people of Israel (yes, in the OT) doing such things, and stated that such a thing had never entered His mind. Come again? No, he had never even THOUGHT of such a thing. Now, you think that this God, who never thought of throwing people into a literal fire, has purposed to throw you into a mythical fire when you die? Remember that God told Adam and Eve told them that if they ate of the wrong fruit, they would just die, not die and then be thrown into hellfire. It was the same for Cain, and host of other sinners who came after him. A million hellfire-and-brimstone preachers do not make it so. "Hell" means the grave, nothing more.
Originally posted by DaTroof
2 1/2 minutes in, and the dude has contradicted himself and is all over the place.
He hasn't even shown one movie clip yet.
Sometimes stories are just stories, like the Bible.
People throw people into fire, God does not.
"Hell" means the grave, nothing more.