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Originally posted by WeRpeons
I've been "hypnotized" before but it really didn't work on me. I was kind of embarrassed for the guy who tried to put me under, because he definitely didn't put me under a trance like state. Some people are more susceptible to hypnotic suggestions. In college, I had a physics professor that hypnotized the class. Only a small percentage succumbed to his suggestions.
If I recall correctly, he said people can take themselves out of a hypnotic trance. It's supposedly like driving down a highway and how you forget the past 20 miles because your mind was focused so much on the road. You really don't lose all Considering these were high school kids, I wonder if they were pretending not to be able to come out of their trance like state. Maybe they wanted to prolong the show so they didn't have to go back to class.
Originally posted by daynight42
If this is the effect of a hypnotist on children and they said they're especially vulnerable, then that is just even more reason for children to be potentially damaged and indoctrinated by television. TV and movies are not exactly the same as this, but their minds are very open to suggestion, and TV/movies/YouTube provides plenty of that.
You can really compare children to animals. If you don't "train" them your way, someone else will train them their way. It's probably going to be the marketers. Most parents don't mind that, though, as long as little Jimmy or Susie is quiet. Such a shame, to shove your kids in front of a TV and have it corrupt their minds.
Originally posted by jcolsto
reply to post by Kangaruex4Ewe
Almost this exact same story was told to me by my former Psychology professor. We had a section of the course devoted to hypnosis, mass hysteria, etc. During his PhD training, a bunch of his friends wanted him to show them some hypnosis tricks. He found that, after embarrassing his subject enough, that he couldn't get him to pull out either. The same thing in this story above happened here. He called one of his professors, and after a few tries, was able to wake him up.
He summed this up by telling us that he would never do hypnosis for entertainment again, and we should be wary of performers that do. You never know what trigger they could leave implanted, whether because they're unskilled or for more malicious reasons.
Originally posted by XXXN3O
reply to post by Kangaruex4Ewe
It is really more than a bit scary that someone can put you under, but have difficulty bringing you out again. This would make me think that it would then be semi plausible to assume that there is a slim chance that one could stay under permanently? I don't know enough about it to know if that is remotely possible, but it does creep one out to know that a replacement needed to be called in.
It is impossible for you to stay under hypnosis permanently.
I also highly doubt this story (as a hypnotist myself) if this happened exactly as they are saying then the hypnotist should not be doing shows yet as he lacks practice.
When people go under they can enjoy it so or simply need rest so much that they will not respond to you bringing them back out of it.
In the event this happens, all the hypnotist has to do is chance their tactics with what they are saying, even if that does not work which is highly unlikely. Whispering into their ears something a bit more shocking will certainly jolt them out of it as a last ditch attempt, the reason I say last ditch attempt is because it might feel unpleasant or a bit unpleasant to the person under hypnosis.
If somehow you cannot get anyone out of the hypnosis for whatever reasons, the person will come out of it naturally the same as anyone does after a good sleep.
The worst thing any hypnotist can do at a show in my opinion is panic like this guy did and he should not be anywhere near a person under 18 years old either.
edit on 19-6-2012 by XXXN3O because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by The_Oracle
What about what Keith Barry did in one of his shows on Discovery, where he tested the theory whether CIA sleeper agents could really exist?
Turned out to be true in the end.
Originally posted by detachedindividual
reply to post by Kangaruex4Ewe
My first response to this is that it is clearly irresponsible of the school to have done this.
I have seen professionals stating that mass hypnosis is highly dangerous. You need to work with a small group of people, and preferably after assessing how susceptible they are to the process too.
The idea that this guy was invited into a school to do this to a load of children is terrifying. And when you think the school didn't even think to consult the parents... It's just crazy!
"We're just gonna screw with your child's mental state and consciousness for a while, using techniques that the brightest minds on Earth can't explain, and a method that has been known to cause psychiatric problems for many thousands of people all around the world. We don't need your permission..."
Complete crazy. The person at the school who made that decision should be fired.
Originally posted by fixer1967
This is said to have been cause my a 20 old kid that did not know what he was doing so just think what some one who really knew thier stuff could do. Now that is the scary part.
Originally posted by Char-Lee
I was once hypnotized during a counseling session after a divorce. When he counted backwards from 10-1, I was supposed to come up from the deep relaxed pace he sent me, it had worked every week before
I could not come back this time because this time he left out the last words about coming back, I felt like i was in a deep well I was trying so hard but could not rise to the surface, In my head I was yelling to him I could not get back.
It was a terrifying experience and I started wondering if coma victims may not be in just such a state.
If someone were to try hypnosis on them and then worked it back, maybe they would wake.
Originally posted by rival
Personal experience about my father...First, he was self-driven and curious. On a normal blue-collar
income he became a licensed pilot, a licensed charter boat captain, deep diver, created a gasoline
aspirating gizmo he attached to a behemoth Ford Fairlane that I witnessed, measured, and can verify
attained 67 miles to the gallon (albeit, with no real power and much sputtering and coughing--this
is before fuel injection with a modified carburetor), skied behind an airplane, created the first light
and siren bars for police cars and got no credit, and did many other strange and imaginative things
like constructing the first potato gun I ever heard of, back in the sixties....
Plus he once read a book about hypnosis...
I have watched my father, many times, hypnotize people for fun, or to stop smoking, or regression, or
other reasons.
I have personally watched a woman in my home freak out when under hypnotic suggestion Elvis walked
in and greeted her. She went hysterical and Dad had a hard time "bringing her back."
I have watched another grown woman go back to her third or fourth Christmas and describe yellow
haired dolls and the Christmas tree, and who was present.
I have watched people quit smoking, lose weight (temporarily), come to grips with irrational fears,
all due to hypnosis. Even been there for lots of parlor tricks when "trigger" words
would make them suddenly itch, or start laughing for no reason other then post-hypnotic suggestion.
But to this day, I have yet to be hypnotized, and after careful reading of the book he read (plus MANY
others on the subject---you can hardly find them nowadays) I have yet to successfully hypnotize
anyone.
Hypnosis requires a willing subject, who is very trusting of the hypnotist...or it won't work. Skeptical
and wary folks are very hard to hypnotize. I would bet most members here fall in the latter category
so don't waste your money on hypnotic "stopping-smoking" seminars....you probably won't be
affected and waste your money.
But I assure from personal experience hypnosis does work on some people...and on some people
it works extremely well...edit on 18-6-2012 by rival because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Kangaruex4Ewe
Originally posted by Char-Lee
I was once hypnotized during a counseling session after a divorce. When he counted backwards from 10-1, I was supposed to come up from the deep relaxed pace he sent me, it had worked every week before
I could not come back this time because this time he left out the last words about coming back, I felt like i was in a deep well I was trying so hard but could not rise to the surface, In my head I was yelling to him I could not get back.
It was a terrifying experience and I started wondering if coma victims may not be in just such a state.
If someone were to try hypnosis on them and then worked it back, maybe they would wake.
Geez! I guess you were terrified!! Did you ever go under again after that?
Your coma comment is something I have often thought of. Like the "pull the plug" scenario. I always wondered if they weren't fully aware somewhere on the inside just screaming... Intense.
Originally posted by Kangaruex4Ewe
Originally posted by Char-Lee
I was once hypnotized during a counseling session after a divorce. When he counted backwards from 10-1, I was supposed to come up from the deep relaxed pace he sent me, it had worked every week before
I could not come back this time because this time he left out the last words about coming back, I felt like i was in a deep well I was trying so hard but could not rise to the surface, In my head I was yelling to him I could not get back.
It was a terrifying experience and I started wondering if coma victims may not be in just such a state.
If someone were to try hypnosis on them and then worked it back, maybe they would wake.
Geez! I guess you were terrified!! Did you ever go under again after that?
Your coma comment is something I have often thought of. Like the "pull the plug" scenario. I always wondered if they weren't fully aware somewhere on the inside just screaming... Intense.