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Originally posted by Qi Maker
the eternal motion you speak of is the action of what has been called spirit, the subtle animator that is like the wind or the river. this is not 'god' or tao however, it is the first aspect of its breath which is sourced from that which cannot be named, that which is beyond the manifest, the 'absolute'.
Originally posted by absolutely
reply to post by Qi Maker
it is then a relative motion which is obviously seen, so not eternal nor motion, what u mean is movement value that could represent nothing objectively while it is actually superior to all motions existence
but this is a kind of subjective consideration that has nothing to do with truth, obviously again
Originally posted by absolutely
hypocrit animal, talking is positive free interaction based on objective existing fact agreed upon, never a reaction to insults in the means of puting u far below what u thought u got to urself in using whatever there
get out of the forum when u confuse it with chat, and since ur want to talk to others of ur level which are effectively existing in the world outside conscious expressions
Originally posted by arpgme
Most people refer to God as "Being". Everything is always in motion, even when it "appears" to just be staying "still". The atoms are still in motion and even at absolute zero degrees temperature, the waves of potential energy are still changing.
Everything goes back to "motion", "verb", or "action". Things are always changing form and the form is in the state of "being", "existing". Everything is movement.
Notice all of the word connected with "mov-/mot-" (movement)....
movement, motion, motivation, motive...
Movement is life. According to the Romans, everything has Anima (Soul), this is the same word in Animate, or Animation, which is movement.
When a circumstance moves you into taking an action, this is "motivation". It "moves" you. When someone is "moved" into an action, that causes another "motivation" (movement).
movement / motion / motivation is the actual force of life that most do not understand.
Yes, everything just "IS", however, what "IS"? Motion, to be and to exist is a motion as well. The nature of reality is the movement-motion-existence.
Originally posted by rwfresh
Originally posted by arpgme
Most people refer to God as "Being". Everything is always in motion, even when it "appears" to just be staying "still". The atoms are still in motion and even at absolute zero degrees temperature, the waves of potential energy are still changing.
Everything goes back to "motion", "verb", or "action". Things are always changing form and the form is in the state of "being", "existing". Everything is movement.
Notice all of the word connected with "mov-/mot-" (movement)....
movement, motion, motivation, motive...
Movement is life. According to the Romans, everything has Anima (Soul), this is the same word in Animate, or Animation, which is movement.
When a circumstance moves you into taking an action, this is "motivation". It "moves" you. When someone is "moved" into an action, that causes another "motivation" (movement).
movement / motion / motivation is the actual force of life that most do not understand.
Yes, everything just "IS", however, what "IS"? Motion, to be and to exist is a motion as well. The nature of reality is the movement-motion-existence.
Motion is upstaged by time. Without time you have no way to measure motion and so does not exist except in the delusional context of time. Motion is a delusion. Time is delusion, a by-product of the denial of the only thing that is real. The anti-Truth.
edit on 17-6-2012 by rwfresh because: thing context
Originally posted by NorEaster
Originally posted by rwfresh
Originally posted by arpgme
edit on 17-6-2012 by rwfresh because: thing context
So, because you don't believe in time, then motion can't exist either? You'll be conceptually back-filling forever my friend. Reality debunks you, so you declare reality to be nonexistent. I wish I was as much in charge as you think you are.
Why do you eat? Why do you sleep? Why do you drink water?
Clearly, you believe that you don't need to. Why do you bother with bathroom breaks? Why do you bother anyone with your ideas if you and your ideas and the rest of us don't actually exist?
Seriously. Why don't you prove any of this...but then you can't because according to you, this isn't even real. You're not even real. I'm not real. This post isn't real. It's all illusion,
but then that doesn't make any sense because if everything is an illusion, then the illusion itself has nothing at all creating that illusion...which means that the illusion itself doesn't exist. Neither does the perceiving interpreter of the illusion. And that means that there's actually no illusion or perceiver of that illusion, so in essence, you've debunked yourself completely and logically cancelled your own premise completely out of existence.
Nice job.
Originally posted by ImaFungi
Awareness always moves. Consciousness always moves
I perceive reality as an illusion, yet i am, i and it move, it is real
The real (reality) is constant and always changes and moves.