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In October 1984, a 21-year-old American Airman deserted and hitch-hiked from an Air Force base in Augsburg, Germany to Stockholm. He built himself a life in Sweden – never sharing his secret with anyone, while becoming one of the U.S. Air Force’s eight most wanted fugitives. Today, David A. Hemler, 49, comes forward in an exclusive interview with Dagens Nyheter (DN), Stockholm.
Does anyone know whether or not it was voluntary to join the military when this happened?
Yes, a dude I worked with back in 1982, again too young of a person to have been drafted, and in the Marines, which you have to sign up for and not drafted into. He decided he wanted to have a normal life and just disappeared into the general population. His fool of a room mate decided to grow a pot plant in the creek behind the house they were living in and when the cops investigated they found out he had deserted. No one who knew him in his assumed life had any idea that he was a fugitive.
Do anyone know of any modern time deserter stories?
I know someone who was in the Air Force and even re-enlisted but two years later, told his CO he wanted out and was given an administrative discharge, pretty simple but takes guts to face your commanding officer who may be very high ranked, as in a general, who would take your request personally and see it as an affront to his (or her, in this case) ego.
There are ways of getting out without deserting or going awol.
He was going to be shipped out and the guy was just scared.
Suicide rates are rising because people are waking up to what they are doing is wrong, plain and simple
Actually has little to do with it. Moral objections to the mission are very minimal. After dealing with people in these nations - you realize that, while we may be nearly opposite, culturally - we give an opportunity to those people and treat them with respect rare in their nations.
Originally posted by Zyril
I thought this might interest some of you ATS'ers. I wonder how many people in the US military feel this way today.
Does anyone know whether or not it was voluntary to join the military when this happened?
What's your view on this? Do anyone know of any modern time deserter stories?
The Taliban were not called ‘freedom fighters’ but lawless rebels who plundered nearby villages. The brutal extreme right-wing dictator, [Manuel] Noriega, who sold drugs in the US, and Saddam Hussein, weren’t exactly called honorable statesmen.”
Originally posted by Aim64C
reply to post by Zcustosmorum
Suicide rates are rising because people are waking up to what they are doing is wrong, plain and simple
Actually has little to do with it. Moral objections to the mission are very minimal. After dealing with people in these nations - you realize that, while we may be nearly opposite, culturally - we give an opportunity to those people and treat them with respect rare in their nations.
The depression and suicide comes from the separation from family....
Originally posted by cavalryscout
He was a volunteer.
The military obviously isn't for everyone, I could only tolerate the bs for four years.
There are ways of getting out without deserting or going awol.
The easiest way is to fail one of your physicals.
If any of you join and change your mind in basic training just fail your pt test. You have to run 2 miles in a certain time, do so many sit-ups and do so many push-ups. If you fail they may send you to holdover and let you try again but most times they just give you an ELS (entry level separation). No harm no foul you go your way they go theirs.
I remember in basic one guy just went and talked with the CO I don't know what he said but they discharged him. Not very common usually it's a little tougher to get out than just asking but I wouldn't go awol and I sure wouldn't desert.