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More unusual objects on the moon.

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posted on Oct, 3 2004 @ 02:39 AM
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After reading another thread about possible structures on the moon here are some that I was able to find. Anyone care to venture what they are?

This first one is a supposed suspended structure that is 5 miles long by one mile wide.



These other images I got from the clementine moon probe website. I was able to zero in them to a certain degree then the next request would not come up. As someone mentioned in the other thread it appeared to be locked out. One thing that I find interesting is that when you get to certain area's on the map (apolo landing site) you can access only the first picture any attempt to get a close up does not get an answer. (also correct me if I am wrong but should not be able to discern some of the more notable objects on there? lander module and rover?)

Tyco crater pictures. Some of these are pictures I got from a site about these objects. paranormal.about.com... The pictures from this site are sharper and more defined then the pictures I was able to from the official clem site but they both show the same image. Not from the clem site I was not able to get any close ups were as in other areas there was no wait for close ups.

These are pictures from the official clem site

Close up


From the afore mentioned site


What you see in these two images bears a striking resemblence to a earth moving machine. Most notable a backhoe. I was to say the least extremely skeptical until I went to the clem site and found the same pictures there.

Cube at latitude 10 longitude 56


One thing I have noticed is that if you try to zero in on the rift on the right side of the cube, the cube longer shows up. And if you left arrow over it takes you to far left side to the two craters near the edge of this photo

this image was lightened up to be able to see it better. Once that was done the cube or box shape stand out greatly compared to the rest of the area itself.

fortress lat -21 long 231
Another odd picture. It seems that you would not find something that looks structual at this particular area. It almost looks like a fortress in a lake.
If you enlarge it and look closesly at the object in the center, you can almost make out walls or other structures.

Object at crater bottom lat23 long 47.

This is of some highly reflective object(s) at the bottom of this crater. Once again any close up was not permitted.


tire tracks on the moon or something else?

Photo taken by Apollo 17 astronauts using a telephoto lens to photograph "boulders and boulder tracks" on the North Massif at the Apollo 17 landing site. The largest object, making a weaving,
tread-like path is about 5 metres across.



This next photo was taken by a private astronomer who beleived he might be witnessing an explosion on the moon


After 25/30 minutes I checked the Moon again and the bright spot was there again. This time - despite my poor eyesight - I was able to see it even without telescope ("naked eye observation"). I moved my telescope and my camera again and I took another picture. This time the bright spot was bigger than it had been in the previous half hour. I could not say, but I had the feeling that, after a first blast, other explosions were following.


This is what I have been able to dig up so far enjoy!


E_T

posted on Oct, 3 2004 @ 03:08 AM
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Originally posted by KILLCREEK
Another odd picture. It seems that you would not find something that looks structual at this particular area. It almost looks like a fortress in a lake.
If you enlarge it and look closesly at the object in the center, you can almost make out walls or other structures.

It's old crater flooded with basalt.
Plato is good example of flooded crater:
It shows well even at time of full moon because it's bottom is pretty dark.

Lot of bigger craters have central peaks. When under huge pressure of impact target can act like liquid (/water) and it bounces back from point of direct hit.



www.solarviews.com...
www.solarviews.com... (1954 x 1994 3MB)


E_T

posted on Oct, 3 2004 @ 03:13 AM
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Originally posted by KILLCREEK
This first one is a supposed suspended structure that is 5 miles long by one mile wide.

Definitely not real: Look shadows!

Could you also tell what crater is in picture?
(or in where it's in image of whole moon)


E_T

posted on Oct, 3 2004 @ 03:39 AM
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Originally posted by KILLCREEK
tire tracks on the moon or something else?

Photo taken by Apollo 17 astronauts using a telephoto lens to photograph "boulders and boulder tracks" on the North Massif at the Apollo 17 landing site. The largest object, making a weaving,
tread-like path is about 5 metres across.


Collapsed lava tubes or lava channels.




volcano.und.nodak.edu...


There are also "wrinkles"/faults which came from cooling of moon and shrinking of surface and inners.



posted on Oct, 3 2004 @ 03:46 AM
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In regards to that first photo. I never said nor claimed it was real. It was just an interesting photo taking about a supposed suspened object.

Also the site claims that the photo in question is from Photo courtesy NASA Apollo image AS15-1428


Here is one other image I found on the NASA.gov site that has the apolo photos on it. Its in two seperate photos and never once mentioned. And to be honest I have no clue what it could be.



and cropped image.



[edit on 3-10-2004 by KILLCREEK]

[edit on 3-10-2004 by KILLCREEK]


E_T

posted on Oct, 3 2004 @ 03:58 AM
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Originally posted by KILLCREEK
This next photo was taken by a private astronomer who beleived he might be witnessing an explosion on the moon


After 25/30 minutes I checked the Moon again and the bright spot was there again. This time - despite my poor eyesight - I was able to see it even without telescope ("naked eye observation"). I moved my telescope and my camera again and I took another picture. This time the bright spot was bigger than it had been in the previous half hour. I could not say, but I had the feeling that, after a first blast, other explosions were following.
LTP... or Lunar Transient Phenomena.

Those have been known for centuries.
Especially Aristarchus' area is one of the common places for those but there are lot of other places.


They might well be "volcanism" or gas eruptions caused by tidal forces.
They're strongly connected to phase of moon. (= in what point of orbit it is)

When plotted against the lunar anomalistic month, the data show that LTP activity peaks somewhat when the Moon is moving from apogee to perigee, especially about halfway between these points when the Moon is approaching Earth the most rapidly.

When the Moon is opposite that point in its orbit, LTP activity is at a deep minimum. Since tidal stressed build from lunar apogee to perigee, one might expect such a pattern.

When LTP phenomena are plotted against the Moon's phases, it appears that the most phenomena occur around the time of full Moon
www.lunaranomalies.com...


www.asi.org...
www.lpl.arizona.edu...



posted on Oct, 3 2004 @ 07:22 AM
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Originally posted by KILLCREEK
and cropped image.


Isnt that just something on the space ship, sticking out? It looks odd in terms of position, clarity and angle to be something coming out of the moon.

Sidenote: Oh look, there is a face on that uncropped image, lower left. Dang if you cant find them everywhere


[edit on 3-10-2004 by merka]



posted on Oct, 3 2004 @ 07:36 AM
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Originally posted by merka

Originally posted by KILLCREEK
and cropped image.


Isnt that just something on the space ship, sticking out? It looks odd in terms of position, clarity and angle to be something coming out of the moon.

Sidenote: Oh look, there is a face on that uncropped image, lower left. Dang if you cant find them everywhere


[edit on 3-10-2004 by merka]


haha crazy! I did not even see that when I made this post.


LL1

posted on Oct, 3 2004 @ 09:26 AM
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Truly amazing pics, with truly amazing explanations to go with each pic. Wonderful display!

I have to say the "cube" is very interesting, even looks as it has been there for awhile. That "cube" is very symmetrical.
On the bottom right side of the "cube" there seems to be a drift of sand,
or type of moved debris in that area into a pile.
Really wish we could see it up close, too bad they won't allow us.


Ut

posted on Oct, 3 2004 @ 09:30 AM
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I must say, I'm rather fond of your tipped over, 100km tall backhoe...


I noticed quite a few high zoom images with adjusted contrasts. These are just jpegs, and zooming in on them digitially tends to bring the compression artifacts into focus more than any object that may be in the picture. Find some uncompressed (ie never compressed tiffs, and notice a surprising lack of perfectly square or rectangular objects upon zoom...



posted on Oct, 3 2004 @ 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by Ut
I must say, I'm rather fond of your tipped over, 100km tall backhoe...


I noticed quite a few high zoom images with adjusted contrasts. These are just jpegs, and zooming in on them digitially tends to bring the compression artifacts into focus more than any object that may be in the picture. Find some uncompressed (ie never compressed tiffs, and notice a surprising lack of perfectly square or rectangular objects upon zoom...


Just curiouse, were are you coming up with that its a tipped over backhoe and its a 100km tall?


Ut

posted on Oct, 4 2004 @ 12:12 AM
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What you see in these two images bears a striking resemblence to a earth moving machine. Most notable a backhoe. I was to say the least extremely skeptical until I went to the clem site and found the same pictures there.


See, the image posted way up there of the "earth moving machine" looks like a backhoe in a 3/4 vertical view. But the image shows the surface of the moon. You know, looking straight down. So obviously, your backhoe must be tipped over.

Also, you don't give any scale units with the pictures. 100km was admittedly hyperbole, but these images don't show any details smaller than 125m across. The smallest spec in a clementine image is no smaller than 125m x 250m, or 31,000 squared metres in area. That's a lot of backhoe.



posted on Oct, 4 2004 @ 12:31 AM
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Are you looking at the correct picture? The one I am looking at does not look like a straight downward looking photo. Looks more like the probe was either coming up on the crater or exiting the crater when the picture was taken. And I am not saying that its with out a doubt a backhoe it just looks like one call it a trick of light or something. at the clementine site the pics were takin with a camera with a 950 filter at 125x125 I beleive.

[edit on 4-10-2004 by KILLCREEK]



posted on Oct, 4 2004 @ 12:40 AM
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Originally posted by Ut

What you see in these two images bears a striking resemblence to a earth moving machine. Most notable a backhoe. I was to say the least extremely skeptical until I went to the clem site and found the same pictures there.


See, the image posted way up there of the "earth moving machine" looks like a backhoe in a 3/4 vertical view. But the image shows the surface of the moon. You know, looking straight down. So obviously, your backhoe must be tipped over.

Also, you don't give any scale units with the pictures. 100km was admittedly hyperbole, but these images don't show any details smaller than 125m across. The smallest spec in a clementine image is no smaller than 125m x 250m, or 31,000 squared metres in area. That's a lot of backhoe.


I said in the orginal post that I could not get any close ups on the clementine map. It would go to retrievel and nothing else would happen. So I was just posting what I was able to get.



posted on Oct, 4 2004 @ 12:55 AM
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Originally posted by KILLCREEK

[edit on 3-10-2004 by KILLCREEK]


Looks exactly like a suspension cord ( can't think of the real name) that is a curly cable for phones and electrical equipment where cables need to stretch. No mystery there.



posted on Oct, 4 2004 @ 12:57 AM
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Maybe its a communications antenna?



posted on Oct, 4 2004 @ 01:02 AM
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Originally posted by kinglizard
Maybe its a communications antenna?


I was thinking it was the sensor they deployed to let the Astro. know they were in close proximity to the ground. Remember Armstrong saying something like "10' contact light ?????????"



posted on Oct, 4 2004 @ 01:07 AM
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Fred,

I'm fairly sure the probes dropped down from within 3 of the legs of the lander.

Could be something to measure the magnetic field?


E_T

posted on Oct, 4 2004 @ 01:09 AM
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Originally posted by KILLCREEK
Here is one other image I found on the NASA.gov site that has the apolo photos on it. Its in two seperate photos and never once mentioned. And to be honest I have no clue what it could be.
Instrument boom. If you look exactly you can see there's some boom inside that spiral.
Especially probes have lot of instruments at the ends of booms.


E_T

posted on Oct, 4 2004 @ 01:22 AM
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Originally posted by FredT
I was thinking it was the sensor they deployed to let the Astro. know they were in close proximity to the ground. Remember Armstrong saying something like "10' contact light ?????????"

Originally posted by kinglizard
I'm fairly sure the probes dropped down from within 3 of the legs of the lander.
Yeah, I think they had radar for detecting higher altitudes and simple contact sensors in legs.


Might be this:
Gamma-Ray Spectrometer: On a 25-foot (7.6 m) extendable boom. Measures chemical composition of lunar surface in conjuction with X-ray and alpha-particle experiments to gain a compositional "map" of the lunar surface ground track. The device could measure energy ranges between 0.1 to 10 million electron volts.
www.nasm.si.edu...



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