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Let's say you want to have a baby. Are you a complete idiot?

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posted on May, 27 2012 @ 11:35 PM
This has been bothering me for-ev-errrrr.

First of all, through my teen years, I always said I'd never have a baby, because that seemed to be the root of all my family's problems--us children. And plue, I never counted on finding a boyfriend who would stick around...

But now, I feel like I've learned enough from my family's mistakes so I know not to make the same ones, and I've been with my current boyfriend for four years now, and we've outlasted all the relationships of our loved ones thus far. We're in our fourth year, and we still do the kissy-face honeymoon stuff

And so, I am starting to think that, eventually, a baby would be wonderful. In fact, I often have dreams and random thoughts about it, and it almost brings me to tears. I can safely say I want one now.

Then I think...

I consider myself fairly "awake" to the world's real issues, and I would intend to teach my child everything, rather than brainwash him or her. Could you imagine if my child were to bring up conspiracies in school? Especially in the next generation? School systems are already cracking down as it is, no one can do, say, or hear anything anymore without being arrested. Could you imagine how many people would call CPS, or the police even? Then, there's the issue of not being allowed to learn all the facts of history in school, along with the regular indoctrination and brainwash... and they'll be teaching my child contrary to what I would want him or her to learn. Things like... all children need vaccines, to keep you healthy. Doctors are good people, who can always be trusted with your life, because it's their job. The government and president are deserving of respect, never question them. Police are never wrong, because they have a badge. Respect them. Teachers are never wrong, because they're teachers. Respect them. You'll never survive or be a useful human being if you don't graduate and spend half your adult life in college. If you don't do that, like everyone else, you'll be a nobody forever.

Not to mention that certain school systems have a habit of giving ALL children vaccines without their parent's consent, and I could honestly say I would kill someone if they did that to my child, or any of my loved ones, no matter who they are.

Plus, what if TSHTF during my child's lifetime, during school--and the schools get locked down. They would take my child somewhere without telling me, and because they're of government authority, be it legal or not, I would be expected to lay down and let them take off with my child, along with all the others, to a FEMA camp, Re-education camp, lockdown facility, foreign country, whatever.

I have no doubt whatsoever that my child would be loved and never abused by us, my now fiance would make an excellent father. But... as far as the rest of the world goes... it seems like they're making any excuse they can think of to make parents look "unfit" and take their children away, while the different establishments have free reign over the lives of the children. There are a lot of issues I wanted to add, but I wouldn't have nearly enough room on this thread...

Yes, I sound paranoid. I'm just trying to be prepared.

Seriously. Are you an idiot for having as child in today's world?

Or is it worth the risks...?

posted on May, 27 2012 @ 11:42 PM
That is a question only you can can answer, but I wouldn't call it stupid cause my wife is pregnant and due in Oct.

I've even started a BBOB (Baby Bug Out Bag)
which is usually diaper bag lol

Hope you the best.

posted on May, 27 2012 @ 11:42 PM
Any day in any time period was and is a bad place to raise a child.
That shouldn't stop you though.
I want children myself, even though I'm not certain of what the future would hold for him/her.

posted on May, 27 2012 @ 11:46 PM
Great post!

I too feel that it is not the time or place to have children... atleast my own anyways... i cant stop others obviously...

I wouldnt put them through public school, its pretty hard to home school and still live the (economic)slave life to pay the bills

But ive always thought that if we ever do come to a real point of change in the world/country, it would be an option on the table, to help regrow society or something...

posted on May, 27 2012 @ 11:48 PM
reply to post by XxNightAngelusxX

If you think you're paranoid now, just think how paranoid you would be if you did. You seem to be thinking of this objectively so good for you. After the TSHTF and we clean up the mess, your reproductive stuff should still be in tact so whats the hurry? Not that we always have a choice. Sometimes God gives the gift of a new life even when we think we are not ready.

In any case, all the more reason to fight and not allow this stuff to continue on for future generations.

posted on May, 27 2012 @ 11:57 PM
reply to post by XxNightAngelusxX

Are you kidding? All those contractions, all that blood and pain? No thanks!

posted on May, 28 2012 @ 12:34 AM
reply to post by XxNightAngelusxX

May I suggest, get married first, ask youre mate if it is ok to get pregnant, finish college and plan and prepare to have a child please! The world is so crazy now! I feel we are all in the end times! Its youre life and you have to be the one to make that decision but please be careful! If you are young, you have plenty of time! I wish you Happiness!! Amy in NC

posted on May, 28 2012 @ 12:39 AM
That's only a question that you can answer. Can you afford it? Have you accomplished everything that you want to accomplish before you settle down? Having a baby and raising one takes a big chunk out of your time. It's also expensive.

Just think this through very well! Also having a baby is not mandatory when you're in a relationship.

posted on May, 28 2012 @ 12:41 AM
The world has always been a crazy, effed up place.

These days are no different.

I have 3 kids now and wouldn't change them for the world.

If you want them, have them. You can't go through life worrying about "what if's" and crazy, paranoid scenarios that are never ,really that likely to come to pass.

Yes, I do sometimes fear about what might happen, but one day you will wake up and realise that you have spent so long worrying about what might happen, it is too late to actually have a baby and the stuff you were worrying about never came around.

How pissed would you be then?

posted on May, 28 2012 @ 12:49 AM
reply to post by XxNightAngelusxX

Above all, Listen to youre Instincts! Get married and spend some time with the man you love first! I had to look up the FEMA Region you have posted. I am in NC and things are really weird here! If things get weird where you are..child move northwest..Montana, Wyoming, South Dakota..just a thought if needed! Try and stay near the mountains and away from the coast...Always think things through before you do something. I have two boys and there is nothing in the world more important to me than them!! I have such an overwhelming feeling of protecting them! My children are 17 and 25 and they are not ready to stand on their own in this world. They are still my babies! Hopefully I will feel better when they both turn 30. Its natural to want a child with the man you love! Just make sure and ask him if its ok. If you are already pregnant..which I am thinking you are..I wish you Happiness!

posted on May, 28 2012 @ 12:55 AM
Excellent question. How many would-be mothers and fathers ask the same question, instead of fathering and mothering accidents with tough consequences for the child?

The rich and elite rely on idiots producing their low-wage workers. If you're too stupid to realize that your child will probably grow up to be a low-wage earner, this isn't much a problem to you. You yourself may not realize that you fund the thieving businesses that buy your labor cheap and sell the product you help create, high.

The ultimate solution toward ending the plan of the elite (aka NWO), is to suffocate them of all cheap labor. That is, we should STOP HAVING LOW-WAGE EARNERS, aka STOP HAVING CHILDREN. Cut them off of their source of income!

But, people are so miserable, that they have children to re-live their childhood again. They live through their innocent children. It's a vicious cycle. Stop, please! I beg you. But, I realize most people will never hear this message. We are seen as more desperate then ever as long as there are so many of us looking for jobs.

Depopulation? What a joke! They would rather there be even more of us than ever! GA Guildstones? Ha! Put there to guide you in the wrong direction!

Take heed!

posted on May, 28 2012 @ 04:00 AM
I wish you and your family good luck in the future.

4 years is nothing. That's why they call it the 7 year itch. You have at least 3 more good years.

I was with my ex for 10 years before it all fell apart. Although we had a crazy relationship from the start.

posted on May, 28 2012 @ 04:09 AM
the human world would stop dead with our generation if everyone thought like that.

personally i'm not going to have kids i'm fairly certain for more then one reason.

posted on May, 28 2012 @ 04:14 AM
Very nice topic. I myself have been thought about if having babies is good in our current world. I also have thought about that is it good for this overpopulated world to have more people like rabbits? Dunno just some thoughts.

I also love peace and quiet and solitude so I am afraid of the fact that I should be responsible of someone. But this belongs to the psychology section lol

posted on May, 28 2012 @ 04:18 AM
All I can say is this...Jesus tells us not to worry, God provides for all of even the smallest animals. We are much more important than they. If you would be a selfless, loving, patient, and forgiving parent having acquired a husband who is the same then having a child is the single most important and rewarding experience a person can have. Az long as basic provisions can be provided for have at it. There never was a better time in the Western world than now to have child. Why? Because you only live once. I was 37 when I had #1 and just now had #2. You want a reason and motivation to have and give so the world will be a better place? Have a child. Instruct them aid love them. Then there is one more that can change the world positively. The world has always had sick psychopaths and will always have suffering, have a child and the world changes to a beautiful place. I regret not having children earlier but it took me 36 years to find a woman I loved, that was good, that was caring about the things that I care about and vice versa. We have one intelligent happy 20 month old that brings joy and happiness and inspiration to all that meet her. I mean from the grocery to church to the movie theatre go the park all are amazeds at thus little bright happy girl. She has love in the home so she takes love into The world.
The sick characters who say you can't be happy and provide are satanic possessed materialists whose goal it is to break down family and enslave into debt know exactly what they are doing. You see having many children and raising them up n love is my revolution. And it will overcome a multitude of misery. You find love. You sanctify that lo e by both serving something higher than yourselves and you will be rewarded your WHOLE LIFETIME by their joy and so will your community. Nothing else brings joy that lasts as long as love and procreation. You will be amazed at how your creativity resourcefulness and productivity all increase for the betterment of your family.

posted on May, 28 2012 @ 04:30 AM
reply to post by daynight42

This is the stupidest most backwards advice I have ever heard. Have you ever read anything besides the garbage on ATS. there are many brilliant people on here but 3/4 of this is ignorant willful garbage. Low wage earners? Do you have faith in your gene pool? Having an education does not guarantee you employment but the right education does. Have you seen the statistics? I remember when I went to Univ of Ky and a guy there created a degree, a bachelor of arts in the history of hip hop music. $30k is what it cost him. I wonderwhere he is today? I also knew a guy who earned a degree in engineering and has had gainful employment since he was a jr. Socialism tells you no matter what without the state you arr helpless and will fail. The current state of thought and all this "tolerance" is a curbing of competitiveness in the west to get people to accept mediocrity and the ima bee in a beehive mentality. It makes me sick. I win. I feed my family. I don't spend my time time humped over a key boarder screen as much as I spend being resourceful. This pessimism is sad shallow and full of self concern. There is a huge difference in prudence and your defeatist attitude. You wont give them any low wage earners? Ha EPIC FAIL. YOU ALREADY GAVE THEM YOUR SOUL AND HAPPINESS. How do I know you gave them that? Because you have none left to share with us.

posted on May, 28 2012 @ 05:17 AM
No, People who gave/give Birth are not the Idiots, they are just the Normals!

It is normal to ask such questions periodically, as a Teen, Tween and later
because of the Life Experiences like Tsunamis, Melt--Downs, War, Fire, Hurricanes,
Genocides, Bail Outs, etc. but our Mind is programmed to go on,
this is valid Argument especially for the Females!

Without Kids you miss something,
they are the greatest Miracle and the biggest Presents,
they are the Reason to marching on and on

posted on May, 28 2012 @ 06:45 AM
Just think for a minute about how bad things are now.


Now imagine how much worse things are going to be in 15-20 years. Do you really want to put somebody through that? This planet is a disgusting cesspool run by greedy selfish a**holes . Do you really want to breed somebody that will just be used as a debt slave? If you think things were hard for you growing up, imagine what they'll go through. Things only get worse every generation.

Of course it is your choice. I'm just saying... REALLY consider what this person will have to go through decades from now before you make this decision.

Not only that, but if somebody really does want a child, wouldn't it make more sense to adopt one? Think about it. Do you have any idea how many unwanted children there are on this planet? Wouldn't it be better to adopt one and give it a decent chance at life? There are already so many available.
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posted on May, 28 2012 @ 06:49 AM

Originally posted by Apollo7
reply to post by XxNightAngelusxX

May I suggest, get married first, ask youre mate if it is ok to get pregnant, finish college and plan and prepare to have a child please! The world is so crazy now! I feel we are all in the end times! Its youre life and you have to be the one to make that decision but please be careful! If you are young, you have plenty of time! I wish you Happiness!! Amy in NC

Why the need to get married? For many, marriage is a worthless religious ceremony. As long as the OP is in a committed relationship then that is fine (more for baby's sake than for any other reason).

As to the OP, go for it. I have a couple of children. Yes, it can be hard work at times, full of lots of thankless, difficult moments. However, i can honestly say, it is the best thing i have ever done. Honestly, there is nothing like the feeling of coming home from a crappy day at work to see your kids beaming smiles and unconditional love. Or the feeling of pride s they manage their first steps, words, etc. These days, i would rather stay to look after the kids than go out with mates or whatever. I cannot recommend it highly enough.

That said, be prepared for the financial impact and serious amount of sleep loss!
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posted on May, 28 2012 @ 07:14 AM
What if there were no children?
Nobody would care about the legacy we leave behind.
I have 4 sons and yes, I am a complete idiot but that is beside the point.
You can home school and teach your kids what you want.
My wife and I did that for several years but decided they needed the social skills one could only acquire being around other kids.
I now have 2 grandchildren and that is even better than being a parent!
They came over last night and we blew bubbles and made paper airplanes and played with the puppy.
Then we had ice cream and they went home.

It doesn't get any better than that.

If you have financial and emotional stability go for it.
I've never regretted having mine.

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