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The world is a loaded gun

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posted on May, 22 2012 @ 05:52 PM
I am convinced that a world collapse has begun people. Hear me out on this, and my god in heaven, I hope I'm wrong. Whether you agree with the merits of capitalism or socialism, or ANYTHING, the laws of nature, which in essence, is the laws of the market and therefore math, always dictates.

First, lets look at Europe. Europe is [SNIP]. Greece is exiting the Euro, and as other countries exit the Euro, the old bitter ethnic rivalries in Europe will heat up as the less prosperous countries in Europe give Germany the middle finger, and vice versa. The more things change, the more they stay the same, and these ethnic rivalries have been happening for THOUSANDS OF YEARS and they result in war. It always happens, and always will.

At the Camp David G8 meeting last weekend, lip service was paid to keeping Greece in the euro zone. But economists who watch the continuing financial crisis in Europe are increasingly coming to two conclusions: Greece is likely to abandon the common euro currency now used by 17 European countries. And when it does, perhaps within a matter of months, there will be a damaging domino effect throughout much of Europe.


Second, China is slowing. Dramatically. Japan is also screwed in many ways, financially and energy wise from Fukushima.

3rd, Stock markets are in the final last gasp, and Facebook will kill it.

Global economy-killer? Yes, Facebook has now been added to my list of global macroeconomic triggers (deadly unpredictable Black Swans like the dot-coms in 2000, subprimes in 2008) that the denial system driving the collective brain of American investors will simply tune out, till it’s too late. Till a crash takes the economy down again. And, yes, it may take years, or trigger in 2012. We watched the same kind of buildup to the 2008 crash for a few years in advance, as credible warnings were ignored. Yes folks, Facebook is that dangerous to our economy and to the global economy.

Hear me out on this. You guys at ATS are a smart bunch. Many of us continue in absolute bedazzlement at the technological and social media explosion, and the idiocy it has produced. However, the market is telling is, we, us humans, WE DON'T NEED IT. We don't! Facebook can't exist without either charging for it or mass advertising, and it can't do both. If the stock market crashes, it will in essence be telling us that this debt based consumption over the last 30 years, that resulted in single people living in 4,000 square foot homes in neighborhoods that are in many areas, abandoned today; we all don't need 5,000 pound gas guzzling behemoths to go to the grocery store; we shouldn't be sitting in front of 70 inch plasma TVs being fed propaganda; etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. We can't exist as a species on planet Earth with this level of consumption and consumerism, and I am now firmly convinced that if we as a species don't put a stop to the stupidity, nature will. The rest of the economy is based around this failed way of existing as a species.

And finally, roughly 25% or more of the population in the developed and developing world is sitting around twittling their thumbs because they can't get jobs in the developed economy, an economy that produces crap that no one really needs to survive! And therefore, the unemployed can't get food or shelter in the currencies that denominate the west and the developing world unless it's given to them from the government. The massive civil unrest is only STARTING.

Nature and the market has a loaded gun to humanity.
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posted on May, 22 2012 @ 06:04 PM
Oh, and if the book of Revelations is to be believed, then the signs are here. We live in the age of deception and corruption. The only way the people who run the world are convinced on how to solve our problems, is through a one world government and a one world currency. The one world mark. The mark of the beast. The only way to survive is if you take it because the only way to distribute enough prosperity to feed the masses is through world socialism. We're at 7 billion people on planet Earth. If that happens before the 2012 election, or Obama gets re-elected and THEN it finally is dumped on the public that he was born in Kenya and that he was the great deceiver, doesn't that kind of fulfill some MAJOR prophecies? Because he'd essentially be the president of the world.

What the hell is going on?
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posted on May, 22 2012 @ 06:22 PM
Obama is truly .............The King of Lies.

Bush? a wanna be liar king.

Clinton? Cigar sniffer liar.

posted on May, 22 2012 @ 06:27 PM
I am so convinced of my thinking, and I have not come to these conclusions from any dreams, any aliens telling me this in the middle of the night, or from channeling any other dimensions (I think
), it's from sitting around with no job and just objectively, critically thinking about what the hell is going on. And I've also become fascinated with technical and statistical analysis of stock markets. It doesn't lie. It can't. It's math, and therefor, it is nature.

The long-term chart of the S&P 500 is showing a failed Double Top that reflects the buildup of unsustainable private sector debt between 1977 and 2007 along with the extraordinary and concerted efforts of the world’s central banks to shoulder that mountain of debt by pumping liquidity into the global financial system starting in late 2007 with such efforts continuing today. This pattern’s failure to trade to its minimum target of 425 has resulted in the strong possibility of the S&P 500 trading into a bearish Flat-Topped Broadening Top and/or a Triple Top. Either such pattern carries an equally severe downside target as the original Double Top but requires a move up to about 1550 within 12 to 24 months prior to such a potential decline might occur. In turn, these possible patterns would seem to suggest that the global economy may be about to enjoy a brief recovery prior to a severe recession or even a depression.

Peak theories

The woman who runs that website made those predictions in February and they have completely materialized. The market has statistically broken down and did not reach it's 1550 level. In the coming decade, unless something changes, the math of the US economy says the stock markets will settle at 1980s levels.
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posted on May, 22 2012 @ 06:29 PM
I hope we can get a dialogue going and try and figure some # out right here in this thread. If I'm wrong about all of this, I'm wrong, but if this is where the world is heading, it must be stopped.

posted on May, 22 2012 @ 07:03 PM
Where we presently stand as a civilization troubles me deeply. I honestly and sincerely think our fate is sealed if we stay on the path we are on.

Hopefully these pains are those of the monster in its death throes; and not the monster poising to devour us once and for all.

posted on May, 22 2012 @ 08:06 PM
We all knew the banks were run by evil crooked people and if what could happen, happens, sometime this week or into next week, folks, we are headed for seriously disturbing times. AN IMMINENT BANKING FAILURE could occur.

Its Bull Wedge is currently failing not into a true Bear Pennant that is showing in AAPL, JNK, the Dow and the S&P or the Descending Triangle that is toying with the Nasdaq Composite and the Russell 2000 but some bearish appendage that can be described only as ugly, really ugly, with its appearance suggesting that there are some more negative surprises to come out of the big US banks somewhat soon.

Frightening, though, is the fact that this potential decline of nearly 30% from yesterday’s close and nearly 40% from this year’s likely top may be only the beginning of a much bigger decline and a good reason to run from the burning banks before the real fire begins.

If this happens, I will consider this woman who publicly and freely distributes this information at no charge to be a prophet. She's worked on Wall Street for many years and has been yelling at the top of her lungs, to no avail.

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posted on May, 22 2012 @ 08:37 PM
PLEASE WATCH THIS VIDEO. This guy is not lying. A stock market crash is imminent. Like I keep saying, I hope I'm wrong, I may be wrong, but if it happens, we will enter a very tough time in history.

posted on May, 22 2012 @ 08:52 PM
We've been overdue for a stock market crash since about 2010, if the powers that be are using the same playbook they used in the 1880's and 1920's.

In 1931 there was a BIGGER crash than the one in 1929, each time we have one of these engineered crashes, there is a bigger crash about 2 years later, right after the time that everyone thinks everything has gone back to normal.

1907 = 1987
1929 = 2008 (was actually 1 year early but within acceptable timeline of previous manufactured crash patterns)
1931 = ?

These crashes happen on a fairly regular basis, and follow the same pattern. One smallish crash (1907/1987) that everyone thinks is the big one, followed about 22 years later by a much bigger crash, then 2 years later again by a much bigger one again. This same playbook 1900's (which is still playing out now).

If you do your research through financing and market history since the South Pacific Bubble of tjhe 1720's, you will probably get quite alarmed as to the pattern taking place today.
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posted on May, 22 2012 @ 09:13 PM
I am now quite certain that a VIOLENT stock market, private bond market, and commodity market collapse will occur in the next 2 weeks.

The exchanges have safeguards built in to slow the momentum so the 20 to 30% collapse won't happen in one day, but if no intervention by governments occur, it looks almost certain.

And the funny thing (I use the word funny to try and calm myself) is, what's happening has happened many times over in history, like babybunnies indicated, it's just that we all are going to have to live through this one.

posted on May, 22 2012 @ 10:27 PM
reply to post by Drew99GT

I'd say good insight, but it's patently obvious that something has to break and we approaching that point rapidly. S&F for you because you seem pretty much right on the money. So, SHTF is pretty much a given, if not next week, next month, next year, but like you, I think it's closer rather than farther away.

The big question is, are you ready? But also;
Do you have a plan?
Do you have an escape route?
Do you know where you are going when SHTF?
Do you know how to pick a reasonable location to set up "camp?"
Do you have survival skills?
Do you know how to grow crops?
Do you know how to take care of chickens/domestic animals?
Do you know how to filter water without a bought filter?
Do you have a radiation detector and extra batteries? *
Do you have bows (crossbows, compound, recurve, etc.), silence is golden?
Would you be able to last if thrown in the woods with nothing but your clothes, a knife and a lighter?
Do you have trustworthy people that can go with you (like a doctor or dentist)?
Do you have extra food, cigarettes, alcohol, gasoline, oil, etc. to trade?

* I ask this question because if and when SHTF, Fukushima will probably be allowed to go critical which will result in massive amounts of radiation exposure worldwide.

But anyway, these are rhetorical questions, I don't want answers, that's your business. If you have the skills and can last 60 days in the woods with literally nothing but the clothes on your back and a knife, chances are you can last the rest of your life if you stay hidden. Which gives you time to build a structure, grow food, hunt and fish for meat, scavenge for other supplies like generators, pumps, lights and wire.

Personally, I think it's going to get very rude and very wet 'n messy in short order, if and when SHTF. Grocery stores will be cleared in a day, maybe even hours. Gas pumps will dry up in a week, maybe less. All energy and food commodities will come under the control of your respective (dis-respective) government. If they see you where you shouldn't be, they will shoot to kill. Chances are the government in any country will use coalition forces from multiple countries to remove the stigma of "shooting your own."

But let's see what happens, hope for the best, prepare for the worst ;-) No sense in jumping the gun. If you are in an urban area, you'll have maybe 6 hours to get out once things start getting "itchy." If you are rural more like 24 hours. Talking control of the population will happen quite quickly in urban areas by closing routes out of the city.

When I walked outside tonight to barbeque some very nice chicken breasts (and they were good), the world felt weird. It was unnaturally still, no birds were singing, the insects were not making noise, no one was outside that I could see anywhere and the air was heavy and unmoving. The last times I felt this way, was always before major power failures. Maybe that's all it is?

Cheers - Dave
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posted on May, 22 2012 @ 10:37 PM

Originally posted by Drew99GT
what's happening has happened many times over in history, like babybunnies indicated, it's just that we all are going to have to live through this one.

This one is different. It's going to be a harder row to hoe.

During the "great depression" the country was much more rural and independent. There was an overproduction of food, for example. Now the country is much, much more urban and dependent on services, infrastructure and government handouts. We consume more food than we produce. The world's food stockpiles are at their lowest levels in 40 years and can only feed the planet for about 50 days. This is a different ball game in so many ways.

Not only is the Keynesian ball going to drop, but it's going to drop into a swirling toilet.

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posted on May, 22 2012 @ 11:59 PM
reply to post by Drew99GT

Hear me out on this. You guys at ATS are a smart bunch.


I dont know about that. Half proclaim the world is going to end and the other half hope it does. Yet we mock when the 21th of May came and went throughout the years and all subsequent dates that come and go yet we still will be here.

I am staying agnostic to the Crashes and End's
and doing what I can to adapt to get through the day
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posted on May, 23 2012 @ 12:25 AM
The Euro and the EU were designed to seperate Europe from the Europeans. All you got to do is watch what the banks do to all the holdings that default, they are bought up by the same "interest" over and over. It's happening in N. America full swing now as well.

posted on May, 23 2012 @ 01:00 AM
I agree with you about Facebook. I was really expecting with all the hype and all the users that know nothing about the market that the stock would really pop despite trading way higher than fundamentals could ever support.

The fact that it didn't and has almost immediatley started to freefall has been shocking to me to say the least, because really it is like the ultimate Internet IPO. It is one of the few times I feel like I have overestimated the publics stupidity. That is really troubling to me anyway, it suggests people are much more worried/scared/cautious than I can ever remember which seems like an ominous economic indicator indeed.

posted on May, 23 2012 @ 01:29 AM
I urge everyone to watch this video. It explains many things, and if you believe in the world collapse scenario that is possibly just now starting, it means you must act. Things may not deteriorate over night, but in my understanding of how nature and possibly scripture works, wars are natural and they cleanse Earth of over population that is unsustainable, and they cleanse Earth of evil. We all know the saying, money is the root of all evil, and money leads to over consumption and over population in nature. And nature = god. Again, I hope I'm wrong about all of this.

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