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Originally posted by The X
The best reason for the saudis being redacted from the reports is because......they were not involved.
Aspects of the american government and israeli governments allowed and orchestrated 9/11.
It really is that simple.
Originally posted by OtherSideOfTheCoin
reply to post by homervb
Then if its all a massive cover up why would the commission be so open about chasing a phantom aircraft or the inaccuracies in what NORAD were telling them. There was mass confusion at NORAD, NEADs and the FAA that day, its not evidence of a conspiracy.
I don't know if I'd be the 1st truther to say this, but I really don't believe the US government wired the WTC buildings for demolition. Who the hell would they hire to wire it and expect them not to talk to anyone? Higher officials in the government may have their own political agenda, but people below them are every day people with a conscious. And I know that the FAA, NORAD, and the military had absolutely no role in this, they were panicked to no end.
Originally posted by homervb
What do we think of Sibel Edmonds? She's been tagged as the "Most Gagged Person in US History" being forced to keep her mouth shut because of threats to national security
claiming that anyone could cover up such a monstrously huge and complex conspiracy is preposterous
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
Originally posted by homervb
What do we think of Sibel Edmonds? She's been tagged as the "Most Gagged Person in US History" being forced to keep her mouth shut because of threats to national security
If you ask me, this "most gagged person in US history" bit is just fake marketing blitz cooked up by those damned fool conspiracy websites to artificialy sow paranoia and persecution complexes. For someone who's the "most gagged person in US history" we all seem to know a heck of a lot about her.
How many "most gagged people in US history" have all these videotaped interviews of them, and if she's so gagged then how is it we know all about how the FBI unit she worked for was so bumbling that her supervisor ordered her to do less translation work so that he could request a larger budget. Plus, we also found out from the "most gagged person in US history" about how we invariably wound up employing Bin Laden because of so many proxy agents working for proxy agents being hired by proxy agents- to get something done in Asia the CIA would go to Turkey, who behind the scenes would go to Pakistan, who behind the scenes would go to the Taliban, who behind the scenes would go to al Qaida. This "most gagged person in history" even has a Wikipedia entry documenting her life-
Wikipedia entry of the most gagged person in US history
In comparison, how many video interviews can you find and post of the "much lesser gagged" members of Seal Team Six? The problem I'm having isn't whether the things she's saying is credible, because I believe they're true and I don't see any reason why she'd be making these things up. The problem I'm having is from all those crackpots and con artists like Alex Jones and Dylan Avery deliberately misrepresenting what she's saying for their own benefit, so we don't know how much is really coming from her vs how much is their own dishonest "most gagged person in US history" embellishment.edit on 11-5-2012 by GoodOlDave because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by explorer14
claiming that anyone could cover up such a monstrously huge and complex conspiracy is preposterous
I respectfully disagree. If you look at the small, behind-the-scenes ops of FBI/CIA etc. setting up stings on wannabe terrorists by offering to help them with materials, money and so forth, to me, it would not be that much of a stretch to imagine small, deep black ops helping some middle eastern radicals to pull this off. A LIHOP/MIHOP hybrid if you will. Mmmm covert ops - deliciously evil.
Originally posted by OtherSideOfTheCoin
reply to post by homervb
Fair enough but I was quite clear as well that I believed there to be confusion. Glad we agree.
Originally posted by homervb
I agree, for the most gagged person in US history she does have a lot of coverage. But at the same time her points indict the highest levels of Congress on corruption charges including involvement in 9/11. I'm not sure what to think of her just yet.
Originally posted by OtherSideOfTheCoin
reply to post by homervb
Well if that was your initial point do you not concede that it may cast doubt over this idea that Saudi Arabia were behind the attack. Surly if the Saudi’s were behind the 9/11 attacks the American s would have loved to have launched a full scale invasion and stole all their oil. When it comes to your quote, I find it difficult to find any proof in that that the Saudi’s were funding the Hamburg Cell
Also if you are wondering how they slipped through the FAA and NORAD the answer lies in history. Remember that before 9/11 there hadn’t been a terrorist hijacking of a commercial American aircraft in 30 years or so , yet alone multiple hijackings with planes being used as missiles with in a hour of them being hijacked. NORAD were notified by the FAA but they (NORAD) only had knew of one hijacking in advance and even at that only had 9 minutes to scramble jets.
Originally posted by Myendica
This is sad. People actually on here trying to convince others that we had to protect the saudi king and princes.. Thus why we covered it up.. Guys.. Wrong = wrong. Theres no sugar coating it. A cover up is a cover up. And complicit, is allowing or covering up and = wrong. End of discussion. The next conversation is, they gets these guys in court, and put it on record. The government covering up anything, or protecting anyone, besides protecting and serving its citizens, after 9/11, should be considered a breach in contract and the government is no longer fit to have authority. They failed, they covered, they hid, they lied.. Thats war against its citizens. So either we bring em to court, or.. .. .. 1776 = 2012
Originally posted by Myendica
This is sad. People actually on here trying to convince others that we had to protect the saudi king and princes.. Thus why we covered it up.. Guys.. Wrong = wrong. Theres no sugar coating it. A cover up is a cover up. And complicit, is allowing or covering up and = wrong. End of discussion. The next conversation is, they gets these guys in court, and put it on record. The government covering up anything, or protecting anyone, besides protecting and serving its citizens, after 9/11, should be considered a breach in contract and the government is no longer fit to have authority. They failed, they covered, they hid, they lied.. Thats war against its citizens. So either we bring em to court, or.. .. .. 1776 = 2012
In comparison, how many video interviews can you find and post of the "much lesser gagged" members of Seal Team Six?
Originally posted by OtherSideOfTheCoin
reply to post by homervb
Then if its all a massive cover up why would the commission be so open about chasing a phantom aircraft or the inaccuracies in what NORAD were telling them. There was mass confusion at NORAD, NEADs and the FAA that day, its not evidence of a conspiracy.