Clergy Homosexual Hypocrisy? Priests HIV/AIDS Rate 4 Times Higher than even general population

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Roman Catholic priests in the United States dying from AIDS-related illnesses at a rate four times higher than that of the general population; with most of the cases contracted through same-sex relations, and the cause often concealed on their death certificates.

Bishop Thomas Gumbleton of the Archdiocese of Detroit suggested, "Gay priests and heterosexual priests don't know how to handle their sexuality, their sexual drive. And so they handle it in ways that were not healthy."

Furthermore some priests and behavioral experts believe the church had "scared priests into silence by treating homosexual acts as an abomination and the breaking of celibacy vows as shameful".

well that sure is a mouthful - being the stark OPPOSITE of 'practicing what you preach'

when we consider the absolute condemnation of all homosexual acts preached, vs the historic, recent and ongoing worldwide sex abuse epidemic of thousands to millions of underage boys by priests, ie just one priest raped at least 200 boys - and the Vatican calls victims.... liars.

very, very corrupt, unhealthy, hypocritical, spiteful, attitude of repentant/repressed gay religious leaders towards their own frivolously closeted orientation and towards their own orientation overall - and to top it off - sacrilegiously all in God's name! preaching against homosexuality as a horrible abomination while sodomizing one altar boy after another by the hundreds, in between services!

Wow, I had no idea that priests had AIDS at 4 times the rate of the general population....Although, when you think about it, it makes sense. Naturally they try to keep all these secrets, but thanks to the internet, they can no longer cover up their pedophilia and homosexuality.

To assume that men can go without sex forever in the service of the church is just idiotic. As it says in the bible, "Better to marry than to burn".

It seems to me that this will be the end of the Catholic Church as we know it, and their own hypocrisy will bring the whole facade crashing down.

the catholic church has been a failure since it's inception. there have only been a handful of decent popes, and claiming that popes can do no wrong is utter nonsense.

hiv/aids doesn't mean homosexuality, but probably from prostitutes of all kinds.

make no mistake, we'll see the vatican pay for their crimes before the year is out.

I would like to see the whole rotten castle fall down.



'Christianity came into existence to lighten the heart, but now it needs to burden the heart to start with so it can lighten it afterwards. Consequently, it will perish.' - FRIEDRICH NIETZSCHE

Originally posted by Bob Sholtz

hiv/aids doesn't mean homosexuality, but probably from prostitutes of all kinds.

indeed, of course.

its just that the article specifically clarifies "with most of the cases contracted through same-sex relations".

Originally posted by BiggerPicture

...the stark OPPOSITE of 'practicing what you preach'

...preaching against homosexuality as a horrible abomination while sodomizing one altar boy after another by the hundreds, in between services!

Like priests, like followers...

The biggest hypocrites on the planet can be found within our religious cults.

An afterlife of them collected together would be PURE HELL.

preaching against homosexuality as a horrible abomination while sodomizing one altar boy after another by the hundreds, in between services!

Did those priests contract AIDS from altar boys? Are you claiming all homosexuals are pedophiles? And the Catholics are the only denomination guilty of this? There are no Baptist homosexuals, no pedophiles? No Jewish pedophiles, no homosexuals? Or is it only the homosexual pedophiles you have a problem with? Heterosexual pedophiles are ok?

Yes, the policy of the Church to try to sweep such crimes under the rug is abominable. Is it less so with others?

BTW, the study those statistics are based on is 12 years old. What it actually showed is that the rate of AIDS deaths for priests was about twice that of adult males in general. It helps to compare apples to apples.

This is all from a 2000 Kansas City Star article, so I'm not sure why your bringing it up 12 years later but if anybody actually followed up and read the article the claims seem unreliable.

articles.mcall.com/2000-02-05/news/3295734_1_catholic-bishops-priests-celibacy

" The Star surveyed 801 of the nation's 47,000 priests and, using records and interviews from medical experts, estimated that about 300 priests have died of AIDS. Four out of every 10,000 priests died, the newspaper concluded, compared with one out of every 10,000 people in the general population."

" The Star calculated the death rate to be four times higher because it compared priests to a general population that included women and children.

"That would be like comparing priests to the general population and saying priests have a lower incidence of breast cancer," said Sister Mary Ann Walsh, spokeswoman for the National Conference of Catholic Bishops in Washington, D.C."

" The Catholic Church is the single largest caregiver in the world to AIDS patients and is certainly aware of the complexities of compassionately coping with the disease no matter whom it touches," she added.


4 priests dying out of every 10,000 from aids hardly seems like a reason to condemn all priests as some of you seem to be reaching for.

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So your sources are wiki and youtube? Brilliant..

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So, we all usually rant on the church when this topic comes up (including myself). Look how hypocritical the church is right? We've all done it. But the church isn't to blame and I'll show you why.

You know what nobody ever talks about? How hypocritical the homosexuals are in this situation. We always look at this as a reflection for how messed up the ENTIRE church is because of what a few priests are doing and how you can't trust the church right?

What nobody ever talks about is how this is then also a reflection of how messed up homosexuals are and how you can't trust homosexuals. It shows what kind of people they are. Since we're stereotyping here right? Sorry I know it's not politically correct to say that, but guess what? The same logic flows both ways if you really want to be honest here.

They know they're gay, join anti-gay organizations anyway, and tell others not to be gay, knowing they're gay the whole time and condeming THEIR OWN KIND. They're just as much to blame here.

And just to prove it's not the church, well guess what? They've also been known to become Republicans and get elected and vote against gay rights. What does that show? That it's not the church to blame. We've removed the church from the equation and guess what? The homosexuals are still EATING THEIR OWN.

That shows the problem is not the church. The problem is with a small set of homosexuals that like to join anti-gay organizations and condemn their own. And it's probably something we should be talking about.