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NEW DHS Immigration Vehicles..

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posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 05:09 PM

Wow, pretty beefy and expensive vehicles to handle and enforce immigrants coming from other nations...
Because you know that's what it's for.......

posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 05:11 PM
It blows were funding our own imprisonment.

posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 05:36 PM
I like the way they put " Rescue " on the side of them .... much less intimidating

posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 05:38 PM
I wouldn't want to be rescued or anywhere near that thing unless i'm it's operator.

zombie truck yes.

civilian enforcement machines, no

posted on Apr, 16 2012 @ 05:43 PM

Originally posted by CALGARIAN

Wow, pretty beefy and expensive vehicles to handle and enforce immigrants coming from other nations...
Because you know that's what it's for.......

The second vehicle looks almost like what we used for patrols in Afghanistan. Why would we need these 'war' machines here? Guess we need them to patrol our borders from those heavily armed crazy canadians and mexicans who want to ruin our country (sarcasm)

posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 12:34 AM
Anyone know what type of vehicle these are? One commenter from the link suggested it was a variation of the Marauder, but it doesn't look like it to me.

posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 12:45 AM
Is the anti RPG slat armor really necessary?

posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 12:50 AM
Maybe this is the answer here.

In addition to ICE criminal investigations, HSI oversees the agency's international affairs operations and intelligence functions. HSI consists of more than 10,000 employees, consisting of 6,700 special agents, who are assigned to more than 200 cities throughout the U.S. and 47 countries around the world.

The new world police?

Ice is in 47 countries? I wasn't even aware that TSA operated outside of US, what a small little bubble I must live in.

posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 12:53 AM
I think this image explains all.

They are coming for your guns.

posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 01:00 AM
I want one of these...
silly 2nd

posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 01:04 AM

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
I think this image explains all.

They are coming for your guns.

Maybe Eric Holders Guns,across the Border.......

posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 01:05 AM
Oh wait it gets better, ICE is actually from Russia and we let them in and gave them control over our country. Well we didn't, our leaders did. The motherland, the fatherland, the homeland. I can appreciate the irony now. It seems we have been at war with Russia all this time and did not realize it. The cold war never ended.

I am sure they will figure out how all that drug money gets through the Federal Reserve Bank computer systems one of these days.

Organizationally parallel to ICE and the gestating HSI within it is the National Protection and Programs Directorate - Wikipedia. Has the Federal Protective Service now. A hodgepodge. Not the Center of the Action like HSI!

Oh true story... the KGB is now... wait for it... Federal Protective Service (Russia) - Wikipedia. Федеральная служба охраны, ФСО,

As far as I can tell, the following picture is not some satirical fan-boy art piece come to life. And those fonts.... christ! It looks like you can clearly see the 'investigations' part on there.

I guess I should have figure that out bye now.

posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 01:18 AM
"I Don't always ride along the Mexican/American Border, But when I Do....It's in a Golan MRAP"

posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 01:35 AM
This is trouble folks. But good now for those who are lucky enough to read this thread. It seems the trouble has been here for some time. But now it is recognized.

Federal Protective Service (United States)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For the Russian Federal Protective Service, see Federal Protective Service (Russia).
Federal Protective Service
Common name Federal Protective Service
Abbreviation FPS

Patch of the Federal Protective Service.
Motto "Secure Facilities, Safe Occupants"
Agency overview
Formed 1971
Employees 2,100
Annual budget $615 million (est.) (2008)
Legal personality Governmental: Government agency
Jurisdictional structure
Federal agency
(Operations jurisdiction) United States
Legal jurisdiction Throughout the United States, 11 Regions Nationwide, U.S. Government Law Enforcement Interests
Governing body United States Government
General nature
Federal law enforcement
Civilian agency
Operational structure
Headquarters Washington, DC
Sworn members 1,200 Sworn personnel
Agency executive Director, L. Eric Patterson, Director
Parent agency National Protection and Programs Directorate
Regional Office, various District Offices within each states 164 field offices nationwide
As a component of U.S. Department of Homeland Security, National Protection and Programs Directorate within DHS Headquarters, the Federal Protective Service (FPS) is responsible for law enforcement and security of nearly 9,000 federally owned and leased buildings, courthouses, properties, and other federal assets and the personnel associated with those assets. FPS is a federal law enforcement agency, and currently employs approximately 900 federal law enforcement officer/inspectors, and special agents. FPS provides integrated law enforcement and security services to U.S. Federal buildings, courthouses, and other properties administered by the General Services Administration (GSA) and the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS). To support that mission, FPS contracts, with private security firms, to provide 15,000 contract security guards providing access control and security response within federal facilities throughout the nation. FPS also protects other properties as authorized and carries out various other activities for the promotion of homeland security as the Secretary of Homeland Security may prescribe, to include providing a uniformed police response to National Security Special Events, and national disasters.

posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 01:36 AM
lol how are these hefty tank-like vehicles gonna enforce 30 million illegals already living, working freely in our homeland?

i doubt these are to enforce "immigration". more likely, FEMA escorts. to the camps - or OVENS.

posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 01:40 AM
reply to post by BiggerPicture

It appears they have been doing it without resistance since 2002.

As a component of U.S. Department of Homeland Security, National Protection and Programs Directorate within DHS Headquarters, the Federal Protective Service (FPS) is responsible for law enforcement and security of nearly 9,000 federally owned and leased buildings, courthouses, properties, and other federal assets and the personnel associated with those assets.

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posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 11:39 AM


Charlotte Iserbyt
April 24, 2003
IMPORTANT CAVEAT: Most of the information in two articles "Former Russian Prime Minister/ex-KGB Head to Work for Homeland Security and "Ex-KGB Heads Hired to Help Spy on Americans" by Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt must be attributed solely to Al Martin and to his National Liberty Press since I have not yet been able to obtain documentation from U.S. Government sources. Al Martin's original article "Get Ready for the Sovietization of America" which provoked this writer to respond, appeared in the 4/21/03 issue of American Free Press. Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt

The old saying "The apple doesn't fall far from the tree" could be applied to George Dubya's ability to "manage" controversial information. He is walking in his ex-CIA Daddy's footsteps, following intelligence guidelines on how to vaporize controversial information, or if unable to vaporize it, to simply move it around to another agency or individual, and hope no one catches on.

The following revelation, obtained from National Liberty Press, is even more interesting than information in the original Martin story since it reveals the lengths to which the government will go to disguise its controversial activities, thereby "snookering" Al Martin, myself, and others, through the use of disinformation. However, the truth will out, and the truth, outlined below, is in this case even more shocking than the original information which proved to be untrue.

Former KGB counter-intelligence chief, General Oleg Kalugin, who is a Fox News commentator, recently stated that Admiral Poindexter's Office of Information Awareness (OIA) which is involved in spying on United States citizens, had hired both General Yevgeny Primakov and General Aleksandr V. Karpos, former KGB heads, as consultants and advisors. (Primakov in addition served as Russian Prime Minister in the late nineties.) (Note: The KGB was the Secret Police in the former Soviet Union)

Al Martin, whose credibility has been questioned by a couple of readers, had previously reported that Primakov and Karpov were hired by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). This information was disinformation provided by the Bush Administration to cover up the fact that Poindexter's OIA had hired Primakov and Karpov.

When the Bush administration realized it couldn't get away with lying about the hiring of Primakov and Karpov by Poindexter's OIA, it put out out very effective disinformation to the effect that these two former Soviet spies had a relationship with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which is a lie.

In this way, when the media goes on its wild goose chase and calls the Department of Homeland Security...and the media has been persistent in getting the truth related to this most unusual story... the DHS legitimately says that the former KGB chiefs are not connected with the DHS. What Governor Ridge's office isn't telling the media is that these two ex-KGB operatives are working not for DHS but for Poindexter's OIA which has been set up to spy on Americans.

posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 11:48 AM
“Department of Homeland Security” translated to Russian is: Komitet Gosudarstvennoy Bezopasnosti or KGB.

posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 11:53 AM

The greatest enemy, always the enemy within. DHS, massive bureauracy, with self-appointed, limitless police powers is, by far, the greatest threat to america. They may have grown to be a direct threat to the government itself. History gives a clear picture of them, Soviet MVD, KGB, with Stalin*s purges slaughter of Russia*s own people, also KPZ, KR/KR’s , KRD, KTM converted Russia into a massive police state, every citizen lived in daily fear.
Hitler*s SA street criminals, Brown Shirts that murdered with impunity, S.S. Schutzstaffel, that grew to power and even a threat to the German Army (Wehrmacht), S.D. branch of S.S. , and Gestapo, feared by all. Their commonality: they become autonomous, free of regulation or oversight, make their own laws, seadily increase their power and *reach*, first a threat to the citizens then to the government itself.

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has been paying a defense contractor $11.4 million to monitor social media websites and other Internet communications to find criticisms of the department’s policies and actions.

A government watchdog organization, the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC), obtained hundreds of documents from DHS through the Freedom of Information Act and found details of the arrangement with General Dynamics. The company was contracted to monitor the Web for “reports that reflect adversely on DHS,” including sub-agencies like the Federal Emergency Management Agency, Citizenship and Immigration Services, Customs and Border Protection and Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

In testimony submitted to the House Subcommittee on Counterterrorism and Intelligence, Ginger McCall, director of EPIC’s Open Government Project, stated that “the agency is monitoring constantly, under very broad search terms, and is not limiting that monitoring to events or activities related to natural disasters, acts of terrorism, or manmade disasters…. The DHS has no legal authority to engage in this monitoring.”

McCall added: “This has a profound effect on free speech online if you feel like a government law enforcement agency—particularly the Department of Homeland Security, which is supposed to look for terrorists—is monitoring your criticism, your dissent, of the government.”

posted on Apr, 17 2012 @ 11:59 AM

The KGB (КГБ) is the commonly used acronym for the Russian: Комитет государственной безопасности​ (help·info) (Komitet gosudarstvennoy bezopasnosti or Committee for State Security). It was the national security agency of the Soviet Union from 1954 until 1991, and was the premier internal security, intelligence, and secret police organization during that time. While most of the KGB archives remain classified, two on-line documentary sources are available.[1][2]
Since breaking away from Georgia de facto in the early 1990s with Russian help, South Ossetia established its own KGB (keeping this unreformed name).[3] The State Security Committee of the Republic of Belarus currently uses the Russian name KGB.

A 1983 Time magazine article reported that the KGB was the world's most effective information-gathering organization.[4] It operated legal and illegal espionage residencies in target countries where a legal resident gathered intelligence while based at the Soviet Embassy or Consulate, and, if caught, was protected from prosecution by diplomatic immunity. At best, the compromised spy either returned to the Soviet Union or was declared persona non grata and expelled by the government of the target country. The illegal resident spied, unprotected by diplomatic immunity, and worked independently of Soviet diplomatic and trade missions, (cf. the non-official cover CIA agent). In its early history, the KGB valued illegal spies more than legal spies, because illegal spies infiltrated their targets with greater ease. The KGB residency executed four types of espionage: (i) political, (ii) economic, (iii) military-strategic, and (iv) disinformation, effected with "active measures" (PR Line), counter-intelligence and security (KR Line), and scientific–technological intelligence (X Line); quotidian duties included SIGINT (RP Line) and illegal support (N Line).[5]
The KGB classified its spies as agents (intelligence providers) and controllers (intelligence relayers). The false-identity or legend assumed by a USSR-born illegal spy was elaborate, using the life of either a "live double" (participant to the fabrication) or a "dead double" (whose identity is tailored to the spy). The agent then substantiated his or her legend by living it in a foreign country, before emigrating to the target country, thus the sending of US-bound illegal residents via the Soviet embassy in Ottawa, Canada. Tradecraft included stealing and photographing documents, code-names, contacts, targets, and dead letter boxes, and working as a "friend of the cause" or agents provocateur, who would infiltrate the target group to sow dissension, influence policy, and arrange kidnappings and assassinations.[citation needed]

During the Cold War
The KGB failed to rebuild most of its US illegal resident networks. The aftermath of the Second Red Scare (1947–57), McCarthyism, and the destruction of the CPUSA hampered recruitment. The last major illegal resident, Rudolf Abel ("Willie" Vilyam Fisher), was betrayed by his assistant, Reino Häyhänen, in 1957.
Recruitment then emphasised mercenary agents, an approach especially successful[citation needed][quantify] in scientific and technical espionage—because private industry practiced lax internal security, unlike the US Government. In late 1967, the notable KGB success was the walk-in recruitment of US Navy Chief Warrant Officer John Anthony Walker who individually and via the Walker Spy Ring for eighteen years enabled Soviet Intelligence to decipher some one million US Navy messages, and track the US Navy.[12]
In the late Cold War, the KGB was lucky with intelligence coups with the cases of the mercenary walk-in recruits, FBI counterspy Robert Hanssen (1979–2001) and CIA Soviet Division officer Aldrich Ames (1985).[13]

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