France's Sarkozy announces plans to jail repeat visitors to extremist websites

France's Sarkozy announces plans to jail repeat visitors to extremist websites

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France's president proposed a sweeping new law Thursday that would see repeat visitors to extremist websites put behind bars ...The proposed rules...have alarmed journalists and legal experts, who say they risk pulling the plug on free expression.

"Anyone who regularly consults Internet sites which promote terror or hatred or violence will be sentenced to prison," he told a campaign rally in Strasbourg, in eastern France....

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Europe is usually on the forefront of censorship, always citing their seemingly-admirable goals of tolerance and avoidence of conflict...but is restricting the political content people read the answer?

My own soul cries out "no" with every fiber of its being. Who decides what's "extreme" and what's not? And the idea of going to prison because you consume a certain type of political literature? Horrifying. How much on ATS could be considered "extremist" if somebody really wanted to consider it so? Quite a bit, I think.

As somebody who has dwelt for years on the outer fringes of polite acceptibility in terms of my own political and religious reading material, I find this deeply disturbing. Today France, tomorrow the rest of us?

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Nothing to see here folks, move along...

All your Rights are belong to us.

sarkozy exibits a rather extreme view of justice
should people who read HIS website be thown in prison?

Its a sad thing to see, i just hope we don't start seeing other countries follow suit..

they are scared, remember the last time france was unhappy with its government?
it ended with the elites' heads on pikes.

they know its coming

Problem > Reaction > Solution


False flag operations always opens new doors for crushing freedoms.

That's kind of bizarre. Is it an election cycle over there? They're probably talking about the USA and saying, there's a guy that's running for president that wants to ban contraception and porn!

I suspect that this is no more than Sarkosy using the recent shootings for his own political gain in the upcoming French Presidential Election, by appealing to the 'something must be done' brigade. A synical response to gain votes indeed!

For anyone who doesn't know the story, a 23 year old claiming to be a representative of Al Qaida shot dead several soldiers, a Jewish teacher and his two youngs sons as well as a seven year old girl.

Link here:

Reuters

reply to post by TheIlluminatedOne


Like they dont do that stuff already. You just dont know it.

This is a very alarming notion. Even more so because there is already a precedent with child porn sites, so such measures would be quite easy to implement.

Why is it that nowadays instead of more and more freedom, we get less and less? The trend worries me.

reply to post by silent thunder


You hit the nail on the head there mate..

Where will the line be drawn?

When will this stupidity and greed end?

ATS could quite easily be classed as an extremist website.. surely!

Last night I was telling my wife was a tyrant Sarkozy was and how very "UnFrench" he seemed to be.
I wish these twits would stop proving me right!

I guess he'll have to throw everyone in the security services who monitors these so called "extremist" websites in jail too, eh?

I'm sick of the idiots and control freaks running and ruining the planet.
Somebody get him a mistress so he will stop bothering the rest of us.

Originally posted by Kluute

ATS could quite easily be classed as an extremist website.. surely!

I don't think so since recruitment to any cause is against the T&C's. I won't bother c/p-ing the clause here since it is easy enough to find at the bottom of virtually every ATS page.

Now, a member could post something which might cause Sarkosy to tremble in fear of France's security and precipitate the old domino effect. That is, if staff misses the threat post and doesn't remove it before the gendarmerie sees it. In that case, that member will, of course, be held completely responsible for their post.

Same thing can happen if an individual posts a plan to bomb/kill/abduct/terrorize anywhere on the web, including websites created for the sole purpose of providing a platform to hatred, If your IP resolves to a location where you may be found and arrested, they will come for you for questioning (or watching) and they are right to do so, imho. They might even provide you with some playdough and tell you it's C4.

He's a pure idiot. Many people will use those sites to research, so how will those people get a more accurate idea of how messed up they are if they can't even research them? He's basically promoting ignorance and must have some serious issues.

And he's probably on a huge power/ego trip too and gets kicks out of this stuff, because he's regularly causing problems. Seems like one of those people that will kick up a fuss if he's not getting enough attention.

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Well if the police had arrested this guy before he went out killing people, they would still be alive!!

Yes they knew about his radical views and also knew about his visits to Afghanistan and if they were watching him like they said they were, they should have known he had an Arsenal of weapons!!

I agree that more people need to be arrested before the crime.... just look at that Anders Brevic guy too.... he was also on a watch list!!

Many have been on watchlists but not arrested before the act!!

Better keep your computer free of hijacking/virus software that might redirect you to "extremist" sites. Oh and what about redirects from other benign sounding domain names to "extremist" sites. Is your wireless secure? So I guess those that aren't computer savvy enough might find themselves unintentionally visiting "extremist" sites and then find themselves behind bars.

Oh and who decides what "extremist" is?

I visit Infowars I am sure many of you think that site is "extremist."

What a ridiculous proposal.

Sarkozy and his elitist bunch are power hungry control freaks.

Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
reply to post by silent thunder

 

Well if the police had arrested this guy before he went out killing people, they would still be alive!!

Yes they knew about his radical views and also knew about his visits to Afghanistan and if they were watching him like they said they were, they should have known he had an Arsenal of weapons!!

I agree that more people need to be arrested before the crime.... just look at that Anders Brevic guy too.... he was also on a watch list!!

Many have been on watchlists but not arrested before the act!!

edit on 23-3-2012 by TruthxIsxInxThexMist because: (no reason given)

Gee I wonder why? Could it be they let them do those things so they could propose crap like this?

Nah ... they would never do anything like that.

alot of things are happening these days
super duper secret massive NSA spying facilities
NDAA
This article/thread
employers asking for facebook login and password accounts

and so much more but i'm too tired to list them all

things are happening and happening quick

It strikes me as another move to put the people into that cookie cutter mode where they are afraid to explore outside of the government agenda and instead settle into the consensus of consuming and working.