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Originally posted by David9176
IMO Obama is a far better option than what the GOP is putting out there....their policies are criminal. Nothing but a transfer of wealth from the middle class and poor to the very rich.
Originally posted by David9176
reply to post by jam321
Guess it isn't just Obama's $5T.
It has been the GOP led Congress unwillingness to raise taxes on the incredibly wealthy that has stopped progress on the issue. Democrats have agreed to all kinds of tax cuts and program/spending cuts...not once could they ever get the GOP house to sign along to anything.
They want the entire burden to fall on those who can least afford it.edit on 22-3-2012 by David9176 because: (no reason given)
IMO Obama is a far better option than what the GOP is putting out there....their policies are criminal. Nothing but a transfer of wealth from the middle class and poor to the very rich.
that sounds familiar !! we heard that in 2008.
Why does the UsA not just tax imports 500% ????
Originally posted by David9176
reply to post by xuenchen
that sounds familiar !! we heard that in 2008.
And was it true or not? Where would things be now with McCain?
The 111th Congress (2009/2010) was Democrat controlled. They had control of ALL committees. Wht did they not help us ?
Yes but lets just say hypothetically that the people demanded it in the millions! What would the "real" implications be of implementing this?
Originally posted by theclutch
Why does the UsA not just tax imports 500% ????
No more imports = jobs created at home, and business comes back?
I probably don't understand all the mechanics in this but if they did it over time slowly, could this not change the debt into profit?
The international American corporations make the profit at our expense.
Originally posted by David9176
He inherited a trillion a year deficit when he walked into office....during economic collapse.
What should he have done eh?
CUT ALL SPENDING AND SOCIAL PROGRAMS while the economy spun out of control?
Originally posted by beezzer
Every one of you (wags a finger) can talk in circles, but Obama is following a plan.
Cloward-Piven.
Stress the system until it collapses.
Then truck in "mother" government to take care of everyones boo-boos
The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward (1926–2001) and Frances Fox Piven (b. 1932) that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a national system of "a guaranteed annual income and thus an end to poverty". Cloward and Piven were a married couple who were both professors at the Columbia University School of Social Work. The strategy was formulated in a May 1966 article in left-wing[1] magazine The Nation titled "The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty".[2]
The two were critical of the public welfare system, and their strategy called for overloading that system to force a different set of policies to address poverty. They stated that many Americans who were eligible for welfare were not receiving benefits, and that a welfare enrollment drive would strain local budgets, precipitating a crisis at the state and local levels that would be a wake-up call for the federal government, particularly the Democratic Party, thus forcing it to implement a national solution to poverty. Cloward and Piven wrote that “the ultimate objective of this strategy [would be] to wipe out poverty by establishing a guaranteed annual income...”[2] There would also be side consequences of this strategy, according to Cloward and Piven. These would include: easing the plight of the poor in the short-term (through their participation in the welfare system); shoring up support for the national Democratic Party then-splintered by pluralist interests (through its cultivation of poor and minority constituencies by implementing a national solution to poverty); and relieving local governments of the financially and politically onerous burdens of public welfare (through a national solution to poverty)......
wikipedia
Combine class warfare, demonizing the rich, getting as many people onto the welfare rolls as possible, and pushing the economic system to collapse and you have a flawless formula for Cloward-Piven 2.0 -- and a vehicle that ensures Obama remains in power.
Cloward-Piven is a much talked-about strategy proposed in the mid-1960's by two Columbia University sociology professors named Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. The Cloward-Piven approach was sometimes referred to as the "crisis strategy," which they believed were a means to "end poverty."...........
Article
Originally posted by beezzer
Cloward-Piven.
Stress the system until it collapses.
Originally posted by beezzer
We are seeing Cloward-Piven in action!