It's official... Google IS the Dark Side:

At least their servers are...

Super-Secret Google Builds Servers in the Dark
Just how far will Google go to hide its custom-built data-center hardware from the rest of the world?

In one Silicon Valley data center, the company is apparently so paranoid about competitors catching a glimpse of its gear, it's been known to keep its server cages in complete darkness

gizmodo

Welcome to the Dark Side...

Soon to come, a new dress code:

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This from a company that just... PROMISED... they woulndn't be evil...

I guess the Dark Side is just too tempting...


Did you ever really believe that one company reading your email, collecting all your data, storing it forever, shifting and analyzing it, finding out all about you.. even where you live... could be good? I mean only those who want control historically do things like this...

Time to get your force powers honed, before the NSA NASA Google calls off the charade... we all know how it ends anyways:

You had me at the new dress code Where can I sign up? (for the outfit)

Don't be such a fanatic, it's just a movie.



I take comfort in knowing that all their secret databases are loaded with more garbage spam than all of our computers... enjoy all that trash Google.

I suspect it's dark more because of power usage/heat generation issues..either that or someone forgot to tell Google Execs that you can buy pinhole cameras with IR capabilities pretty cheaply these days

And the Chick who has been running DAARPA is now going to be running Google !

Writings on the wall really !

All this bs with "privacy issues"... what do you ppl have to hide anyway? If you dont have anything to hide, why would you care? If you do have anything to hide, then probably you dont deserve that "privacy" so... whats all the big fuss about again?

Originally posted by FraternitasSaturni
All this bs with "privacy issues"... what do you ppl have to hide anyway? If you dont have anything to hide, why would you care? If you do have anything to hide, then probably you dont deserve that "privacy" so... whats all the big fuss about again?

This is one of the most idiotic arguments I've heard.

Do you have curtains? Doors?

I don't suppose you'd mind when they put cameras on every street corner, you've nothing to hide right?

Or when they start putting them in your house.... you've nothing to hide right?

Or in your shower... right... nothing to hide...

If you've got nothing to hide let me see all your credit card purchases over the last year....

... google knows a lot more than that... they even know what you've THOUGHT about buying... and can probably easily figure out why.

They know your in depth sexual preferences, and a lot more things that are none of their damn business.

And they hand it all over to the government when asked. And increasingly without a warrant.

"I see you were at x street last night when the murder took place... come with us please..."

"Oh, yes, your interesting in bondage fetish, that fits the profile.... we're going to have to detain you for a while..."

"Oh wow, look at THAT purchase... and you looked for those? I think we've got the right person here..."

"I see you goto those websites... yes, we can call off the search now..."

I know, you have nothing to hide... none of us do.. but that's not really the point.

You're attitude is a totalitarian regimes wet dream...

Originally posted by FraternitasSaturni
All this bs with "privacy issues"... what do you ppl have to hide anyway? If you dont have anything to hide, why would you care? If you do have anything to hide, then probably you dont deserve that "privacy" so... whats all the big fuss about again?

You wont / cant understand.

Originally posted by FraternitasSaturni
All this bs with "privacy issues"... what do you ppl have to hide anyway? If you dont have anything to hide, why would you care? If you do have anything to hide, then probably you dont deserve that "privacy" so... whats all the big fuss about again?

Are you serious? Governments and organizations who suppress truth and political speech don't care whether or not a person has done something legitimately illegal. The USSR imprisoned millions of people who "had nothing to hide". The USSA is headed down a very similar road in the near future. The DHS has openly admitted to spying on conspiracy theorists, tea party activists, retired servicemen, and the NSA (which is totally in bed with Google) has admitted to spying on social networks and collecting twitter and facebook posts. Nothing to hide? That's a red herring; this is a matter of having the right to speak freely without fearing that the government is 'keeping tabs' on everything you say and think.

That said, I don't see anything sinister about Google keeping their servers in unlit rooms. There are many other more legitimate concerns about Google that are ore worthy of discussion.

I'm just wondering what anyone could actually tell by just looking at the cases/towers/racks?

What's it gonna say "Super Death Star Server Model 999"?

Actually, this sounds more legit now, oddly enough..

Dang it, I just got 4g...Well played Google/Verizon, well played indeed.

Originally posted by FraternitasSaturni
All this bs with "privacy issues"... what do you ppl have to hide anyway? If you dont have anything to hide, why would you care?

I'll hold your wallet while you go through the scanner k?
Dont give it a second thought, you know you have nothing to hide.

Ever see their google mobiles? They look just like those Empire Probes,

speaking of dark side...

www.dailymail.co.uk...

'Google is now just an ad company': Departing exec's Goldman Sachs-style rant about how search giant is now obsessed with harvesting people's private information

* Google now wants to 'learn as much about people's private lives as possible
* Company has 'stopped' being a technology company focused on innovation
* When Gmail displays ads based on things in my email it creeps me out

As evil as it is I gotta admit, I do make a few pennies a day from their ads... heheh, I wouldn't mind working for them.

Originally posted by pianopraze

Originally posted by FraternitasSaturni
All this bs with "privacy issues"... what do you ppl have to hide anyway? If you dont have anything to hide, why would you care? If you do have anything to hide, then probably you dont deserve that "privacy" so... whats all the big fuss about again?

This is one of the most idiotic arguments I've heard.

Do you have curtains? Doors?

I don't suppose you'd mind when they put cameras on every street corner, you've nothing to hide right?

Or when they start putting them in your house.... you've nothing to hide right?

Or in your shower... right... nothing to hide...

If you've got nothing to hide let me see all your credit card purchases over the last year....

... google knows a lot more than that... they even know what you've THOUGHT about buying... and can probably easily figure out why.

They know your in depth sexual preferences, and a lot more things that are none of their damn business.

And they hand it all over to the government when asked. And increasingly without a warrant.

"I see you were at x street last night when the murder took place... come with us please..."

"Oh, yes, your interesting in bondage fetish, that fits the profile.... we're going to have to detain you for a while..."

"Oh wow, look at THAT purchase... and you looked for those? I think we've got the right person here..."

"I see you goto those websites... yes, we can call off the search now..."

I know, you have nothing to hide... none of us do.. but that's not really the point.

You're attitude is a totalitarian regimes wet dream...

edit on 16-3-2012 by pianopraze because: ...

1. I dont have curtains and my door is not a PRIVACY issue. Its just there to keep ppl from... you know, STEALING MY STUFF and too keep out what I dont want in... its not about privacy.

2. Nope, I dont mind cameras in every street corner...

3. They wont put cameras on my house? If they ever put one there, would I know? Nope, so I dont care. Thats not what worries me on a daily basis you know? I have a life besides being paranoid about the government watching me... oh and they dont really want to see you in the can, so dont worry.

4. I tried but its too big and it was a pain to translate, for nothing since like I said its way too big... but I can give you a sample that repeats every month so, just multiply this by 11 or 12... in euros btw

21-03-2011 21-03-2011 GYM MEMBERSHIP FEE -44,4
28-03-2011 28-03-2011 PAYPAL *HOTFILECOM 35314369001 GB Visa 6,53
28-03-2011 28-03-2011 PAYPAL *FILESERVE 4029357733 HK Visa 9,99
28-03-2011 28-03-2011 INTERNATIONAL PROCESSING COMISSION 0,15
28-03-2011 28-03-2011 STAMP TAX 0,01
31-03-2011 31-03-2011 INTEREST 15,4
31-03-2011 31-03-2011 TAX - INTEREST 0,62
31-03-2011 31-03-2011 TAX OVER CREDIT: 0,59
20-04-2011 20-04-2011 GYM MEMBERSHIP FEE -43,85
26-04-2011 26-04-2011 PAYPAL *HOTFILECOM 35314369001 GB Visa 6,36
27-04-2011 27-04-2011 PAYPAL *FILESERVE 4029357733 HK Visa 9,99
27-04-2011 27-04-2011 INTERNATIONAL PROCESSING COMISSION 0,15
27-04-2011 27-04-2011 STAMP TAX 0,01

Its not like you cant see it... thing is, do you actually care? - I aim to please.

5. "google knows a lot more than that... they even know what you've THOUGHT about buying... and can probably easily figure out why"

Well yes, and they SHOULD... I dont want to be bothered with Kleenex ads.

6. "They know your in depth sexual preferences, and a lot more things that are none of their damn business."

Again... thats fine. I dont want to be bothered with gay porn sites and dont mind the ocasional "buy a gorgeous bride from russia" pic.

7. ""I see you were at x street last night when the murder took place... come with us please..."

If they saw it on camera, tracked my cellphone and my car with a gps... then they know I didnt do it so... ok, I'll testify about what I may or may not have seen... thats ok.

8. "Oh, yes, your interesting in bondage fetish, that fits the profile.... we're going to have to detain you for a while..."

I dont have a bondage fetish, but if I had its not illegal you know... you CAN have a bondage fetish. Yet... nobody cares anyway.

9. "I see you goto those websites... yes, we can call off the search now..."

Theres not a single website I visit that could get me into trouble... you're free to check my history since I never delete it. Since you got an idea of my credit card, want my browser history too? I will need a LOT of room for that I assure you, but I have no problems showing it... and yes, you can call off the search now, cause theres really nothing of extraordinary here...

10. You're attitude is a totalitarian regimes wet dream...

Listen I just gave you A LOT of information about me and you didnt FORCE me, it wasnt an order or even a request, ... as you can see I dont care, nor I have any issues sharing it. I dont see the problem really.

Oh you know what really REALLY pisses me off? Its these 2 ads in ATS new post that keep my refresh rate from being FAST... they slow down the refresh a lot and they should be removed. - And I'm on a 130ish mbit connection...

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I'm not sure which shocks me more...

The lack of critical thinking your attitude displays, lack of good taste....

... or your lack of common sense posting this info.

Apparently this is common as anohter article I read recently says The average consumer values data privacy at 65 cents.

It makes me sad for my son growing up in this world, that people would sell themselves out so cheaply.

The lack of critical thinking is increasingly distressing...

... but I look at the education system, and the television shows and commercials and I see a very downward trend in intelligence. They all seem aimed at lower and lower levels of intelligence. People tend to mimic attitude and behaviors they see... so if they are constantly soaking in a soup of this idiocy...

... i guess the results are predictable.

:shk:

Arent most Google servers situated in an area prone to EARTHQUAKES

not far from Frisco or san andreas fault or something?

Originally posted by BiggerPicture
Arent most Google servers situated in an area prone to EARTHQUAKES

not far from Frisco or san andreas fault or something?

I didn't know... but here's what i found...: looks like they are all over the world.


And ironicly enough... they value THIER privacy...

Google’s criteria when selecting locations for data centers

Large volumes of cheap electricity.

Green energy. Focuses on renewable power sources.

Proximity to rivers and lakes. They use a large amount of water for cooling purposes.

Large areas of land. Allows for more privacy and security.

The distance to other Google data centers (for fast connections between data centers).

Tax incentives.

Originally posted by pianopraze
reply to post by FraternitasSaturni

 

I'm not sure which shocks me more...

The lack of critical thinking your attitude displays, lack of good taste....

... or your lack of common sense posting this info.

Apparently this is common as anohter article I read recently says The average consumer values data privacy at 65 cents.

It makes me sad for my son growing up in this world, that people would sell themselves out so cheaply.

The lack of critical thinking is increasingly distressing...

... but I look at the education system, and the television shows and commercials and I see a very downward trend in intelligence. They all seem aimed at lower and lower levels of intelligence. People tend to mimic attitude and behaviors they see... so if they are constantly soaking in a soup of this idiocy...

... i guess the results are predictable.

:shk:

Since you obviously didn't understand me the first time I'll make it crystal clear:

If there is someone who's lacking common sense, it isnt me - what do you expect? The idea that you can EVER have privacy over the internet is completely ridiculous. I'm an historian as my primary college degree, also worked for intel for some private or not-so-private companies, and if you really want to share ideas, pass information or do anything that you dont want others to know, history has proven countless times that you can only do it in person, mouth to mouth... never over the internet, cellphone or hardline.

I dont know why you're so shocked... what, 44 euros for a gym is too much? Or you find dangerous that you just got to know that I'm a fileserve or hotfile subscriber? You think my bank charges too much on stupid double taxation? (that one I agree) ... what exactly do you know about me? That I'm an heterosexual male around 30ish that likes blond, green-eyed eastern European females? Tell me... what did you get to know that, although true, was actually usable information? Want my bank account number? Cause I have more than one... actually a few to spare.

People look at "privacy" the wrong way. The mere thought that you want privacy over the internet is completely ridiculous. The idea that you can have complete privacy living in society is ridiculous... if you want that much privacy, abandon civilization and go live under a rock somewhere in sierra Leone, Burkina Faso or in a desert island somewhere in Indonesia, or behind a tree in Yemen. You'll have to cut all contact from the remote world (and I have no doubt that some of you paranoid people are willing to do so - not those idiots who actually think that moving to an area 400 miles from Portland to the Kootenai is "going off the grid" to avoid some kind of zombie apocalypse they've created inside their own feeble minds) to actually have that "privacy" you talk about... never living with other human beings.

Your privacy is something so insignificant like... a shower or having a door? You are completely oblivious to what privacy really is. But to get there, I would have to actually tell you some really important stuff, which I can't - see... because I'm over the internet! My connection goes through a ton of nodes before getting to you... this isnt about google, this was NEVER about google. So they want to centralize information on a civilian level... thats fine. You will not get the NSA on your door because of google, and if you think you can have the NSA on you, then you have no idea what the NSA is. The NSA couldnt care less about you.

You'll get a few better prices for an LCD, or will help you find your long lost sister, or that ex girlfriend from high school to see if she married, or even get to know which restaurant near you fits you best - but... so what? You afraid of your google getting more personal? Have issues explaining the wife why "women lingerie" shows up in your "personalized tailor-made google"?

You have the wrong notion of privacy and dont talk like that, so worried about the education system when yourself, in your previous post, couldnt tell "your" from "you're" - I'm the one whos shocked.

Shocked by the ignorance that people actually believe in privacy while being part of a much larger community, wanting privacy over any means of digital or analog communication, living in fear of governments and alphabet agencies that dont really have even the time to spare to look to your stupid porn emails and irrelevant conversations in your google chat with your wife - as if looking at their own stuff isnt boring enough, they have to get an extra daily dose checking ppl's dull marriages and meaningless lives - Problem is... you're not THAT important, actually, YOU simply dont matter and have no part on the equation.

Your "privacy" is actually "illusion of grandeur" - redefine it

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I think your whole attitude is very useful for those who would like to control you.

There is no way in hell I'll ever subscribe to suck diatribe.

Sometimes I'm really glad I'm getting older. I really don't want to live in a world such idiocy will eventually lead to.

If you can't understand what this current invasion of privacy on all levels, and shattering of all of the constitutional protections that have kept my nation... don't know about yours... free... then you really deserve what you get.

As to google... It's very simple to opt out of everything google. And any other company that would try such tricks. If enough people do they will stop...

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Hotfile and fileserve. You are now on the wanted for piracy list, congratulations