Obama: Republicans Are Members Of The "Flat Earth Society"

President Obama ridicules the Republican party for not taking bio-fuels seriously: “If some of these folks were around when Columbus set sail, they must have been founding members of the flat earth society. They would not have believed that the world was round.”

Obama: Republicans Are Members Of The "Flat Earth Society"

He talks in the video how "they" (Republicans) make jokes about biofuels. "They" are against raising fuel standards. "They" like gas guzzlers. And his audience of bobble heads just giggles and eats it up!

Well, Mr. Obama, why was it again that you went to Brazil to broker a huge oil deal with them, claiming that America wanted to be "one of their best customers". The deal was to give Brazil $2 billion dollars, and then buy oil. Obamanomics at work there.

Obama is big oil's best friend. If he wants America to get on biofuels, and out from under the clutch of oil, all he has to do is legalize hemp. We'll have all the diesel fuel we could ever want then. Not to mention paper, food, building material, clothes, and thousands of other products.

If you want to be "looking forward" Mr. Obama, end the War on Minorities. Quit supplying guns to people that want to kill us. Quit assassinating American citizens without so much as how do you do.

/TOA

reply to post by The Old American


OK...so The OP is about Energy Policy?

...and you follow the qoute with a rant about legalizing Hemp, Fast and Furious? a "war on minoroties? and the US assisination policy?

I am not one to give advice on constructing OPs, but didn't you just derail your own OP several times over in the opening post?

What is this thread about again?

I was able to salvage the Brazil bit from your OP and to answer that question, our current administration's Energy Policy includes both expanding new, non-middle east sources of oil...example: Brazil and more domestic oil...the USA is producing more domestic oil now than it has in the past 9 years AND at the SAME TIME pursuing alternative energy. That can't be too complex to understand?

As far as the GOP being Flat Earthers...Yes...They hate the word "Progress" and are revisiting the birth control debates from the 1950's. I could go on about wanting to repeal envirornmental protections, child labor laws, workplace safety regulations etc. etc. but the list is too long. They are anti-progress and seem to cherish the idea of dragging us back to the early 1900's while the rest of the world is racing forward.

reply to post by The Old American


Obama is right.
Republicans and Paulistas are living an anachronistic fantasy.

The point is that, in this case Republicans (using Obama's words, not mine), would not have FORCED Columbus to set sail. Rather, it would have been his choice.

Obama seems to forget that this country is (supposed to be) run by the People, for the People. It matters not what Obama wants, but what American people want by majority. It doesn't even matter if it's "right or wrong" if the People don't want it. That's what makes it a democracy versus a dictatorship.

Biofuels more than likely are the way of the future. But until the cost for such fuels become reasonable, or our incomes increase to the point where people can reasonable afford such fuels, it's a moot point.

How many people can afford to replace their oil heater with solar. Today?
How many people can afford to buy a brand new battery powered car and cover the increase in electricity?
What is the point of battery power without solar power except to increase the electric companies profits?

However, none of the above is really the point. The President, Obama or any future President, has no right to force us to purchase anything. The government has no right to push products or companies, nor should the people allow it under any circumstance.

Taxing oil, or raising the price to equal other alternatives, is the same mentality. While some would argue that this is "good" in terms of the environment, that's not the point.

Today, the government is pushing biofuels. Tomorrow it could be concrete instead of wood for house building. Or sedans instead of SUVs. Or trains instead of planes.

Allowing the Government to dictate what we can and cannot buy, or manipulating the market to ensure we are steered towards what the Government wants us to purchse, or offering tax credits for buying a specific vehicle (like they are doing with the Volt), is a very slippery slope and leads to a future of little choice and much Government regulation.

He's working Uganda and 3 other Central African Nations with US troops. Looks like our prez. wants a secure environment that Tullow Oil needs in order to start drilling and transporting African Gold.

It's ok as long as it does not happen on US soil.

21 Feb 2012
$2.9bn Farm-down of Uganda licences completed

Tullow Oil plc (Tullow) is pleased to announce that it has completed the farm-down of 66.6666% of its Ugandan licences to CNOOC Limited and Total for a consideration of $2.9 billion. The farm-down follows the recent signing of Production Sharing Agreements (“PSAs”) and the Kingfisher production licence with the Government of Uganda.

Tullow, CNOOC Limitedand Total (“the Partners”) have been working closely since March 2011 on development options for the Lake Albert Basin and are looking forward to discussing them with the Government of Uganda later this year. It is currently expected that small-scale oil and gas production for the local power market will commence in 2013 from the Kaiso-Tonya area. Major production from the Lake Albert Basin is anticipated to commence approximately 36 months after a basin-wide plan of development is approved by the Government of Uganda. Based on this timetable, ramp-up to major production would commence in 2016.

www.tullowoil.com...

Tullow is on the hook with a $10billion investment in Uganda.
www.bbc.co.uk...

George Soros is even involved in Ugandan Oil and Obama is helping him. The timing of our troop deployment and the sudden expansion of the deployment into 3 neighboring countries makes one wonder. How convenient

The US billionaire is said to have conspired in all possible ways to cause a clash between stakeholders and bring political turmoil which he plans to use to tack away tankers of oil.

Fresh details emerging show that after US billionaire George Soros had failed in influencing the Bank of New York Mellon and the government of Uganda on how to run the sector, he resorted to undercover techniques which would bring him secretly closer to the vital resource. “When his approach was denied implementation, he subsequently opened a number of NGOs in Uganda to push for the same cause,” the report clarified.

Among the non-governmental organizations Soros opened in Uganda include; Open Society Initiative for East Africa, Youth Action Fund, Revenue Watch International, Human Rights Watch and Publish What

redpepper.co.ug...

Originally posted by lpowell0627
The point is that, in this case Republicans (using Obama's words, not mine), would not have FORCED Columbus to set sail. Rather, it would have been his choice.

They would have defunded him since the frivolous voyage was "taxpayer funded"

and rushbo is the president. he claimed today the oil is natural, and therefore not harmful

yeah rush, it's natural to be 1,000 feet under the ground

it's not natural the be drilled out, refined, and burned

what a moron

reply to post by Indigo5


A private investor would have picked up the tab, created hundreds of jobs, made money, and not cost the taxpayers a dime.

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
and rushbo is the president. he claimed today the oil is natural, and therefore not harmful

yeah rush, it's natural to be 1,000 feet under the ground

it's not natural the be drilled out, refined, and burned

what a moron

Did you know that if left alone, oil naturally rises to the surface? Ever watch Beverly Hillbillies?

The earth naturally wants to dispel the oil in its depths. So if we drill and get it out aren't we doing the earth a favor?

Save the Earth...Drill, drill, drill!

If Democrats would have funded Columbus he would have had to file for bankruptcy...ala Soyndra.

News flash Columbus didn't discover America.

Just breaking............Hey Obama how many people do you think take you seriously?

Not to many starting with me.

Edited to ad Liberals think they are the center of the universe hence Obamas gutting of NASA.

reply to post by neo96


Why bother with facts? Nobody even mentioned that Columbus was Italian, but it was the Spanish that actually footed the bill. See...even Columbus had to shop around for funds and an investor!

Originally posted by Carseller4

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
and rushbo is the president. he claimed today the oil is natural, and therefore not harmful

yeah rush, it's natural to be 1,000 feet under the ground

it's not natural the be drilled out, refined, and burned

what a moron

Did you know that if left alone, oil naturally rises to the surface? Ever watch Beverly Hillbillies?

The earth naturally wants to dispel the oil in its depths. So if we drill and get it out aren't we doing the earth a favor?

Save the Earth...Drill, drill, drill!

look out for those sea monsters jethro !

reply to post by Indigo5


The reason Obama did the Brazil deal was to support countries which have nationalized oil, which is what Brazilian's Petrobas is. He wanted to use American dollars to subsidize the Brazilian socialized oil industry to prop it up, because socialism requires Capital since it is not sustainable without Capital. Obama is a Fabian socialist, which several of us have stated here on this forum, which is to say that he is instituting socialism in increments. That way it is not as noticeable, although many of us have been noticing because we are paying attention.
All one has to do to get this is to remember that DSA member Congresswoman Maxine Watters accidentally let the cat out of the bag on nationalizing the American oil companies at a hearing one day.

Here are her famous words

Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by lpowell0627
The point is that, in this case Republicans (using Obama's words, not mine), would not have FORCED Columbus to set sail. Rather, it would have been his choice.

They would have defunded him since the frivolous voyage was "taxpayer funded"

Columbus got the King and Queen of Spain to fund his voyages and they expected a return on their investment. A portion of any kind of treasures they would find on the voyage, such as gold or pearls would belong to the Royals.

Originally posted by Indigo5
reply to post by The Old American

 

OK...so The OP is about Energy Policy?

...and you follow the qoute with a rant about legalizing Hemp, Fast and Furious? a "war on minoroties? and the US assisination policy?

I am not one to give advice on constructing OPs, but didn't you just derail your own OP several times over in the opening post?

What is this thread about again?

This thread is about a backward thinking, regressive kettle calling a pot black.

Rudolph Diesel used hemp as his base for his biofuel. He and Henry Ford got together and designed a car made almost entirely from hemp: fueled by its oil and the shell with its fibers. Hemp is a renewable, cheap resource. Yet Obama calls out the Republicans for being backward, while he courts Brazil for more oil.

And it's quite forward thinking of him to continue with his fascist policies against his subjects. He supplies arms to Mexican drug gangs, then uses their violence to continue his war on drugs. A war that just happens to affect a disproportionately large portion of minorities.

And the fourth Geneva Convention specifically outlaws assassination. In case you didn't know, Anwar al-Alawki's 16 year old son could not be officially legally considered an unlawful combatant under any known international or American laws. It's been quite a while, about 63 years, since the fourth Geneva Convention was ratified. I think Obama is living in the past here. Like about 100 years.

Seriously, if you can't keep up, maybe you should be somewhere else.

/TOA

reply to post by The Old American


Flat earth Society. Its better to have a flat earth than no earth. Obama is making fun of people about bio-fuels when he is king of alternative fuel disasters. He couldn't care less about bio-fuels he is out to rip tax payers off and put it in his friends pockets. His no earth Society is currently killing people in how many countries? The list keeps growing. After they are done destroying humanity it won't take long to finish destroying the planet.

Yep

All hail Obama the king of the no money no life policy may the sun never fade from his most glorious visage

If you could harness his bs and lies and make cars run off them we would solve the worlds energies problems.

Originally posted by neo96

If you could harness his bs and lies and make cars run off them we would solve the worlds energies problems.

If we could harness the bs and lies for energy, the US alone could solve the worlds energy problems

Obama's analogy is amusing and correct.


But we already have the solution for the energy crisis but there just isn't enough profit in it for energy companies to give up on coal and natural gas. It is called a Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor. At least they won't until the 11th hour.