Q&A Session with John Lear

I admit I know very little about you, I will search for your backstory later.

I suppose one question I have is a philosophical question.

Do Aliens/Greys have a concept of a Great Divinity, or is it merely a human delusional explanation, to the questions we cannot answer?

Why is the Sky Blue? God did it?

If you could answer this question, it would put to rest a few conflicts of faith over science in my mind.

My Thanks,

-ADHDsux4me

Originally posted by ADHDsux4me
I admit I know very little about you, I will search for your backstory later.

I suppose one question I have is a philosophical question.

Do Aliens/Greys have a concept of a Great Divinity, or is it merely a human delusional explanation, to the questions we cannot answer?

Why is the Sky Blue? God did it?

If you could answer this question, it would put to rest a few conflicts of faith over science in my mind.

My Thanks,

-ADHDsux4me

Like the aliens told Whitley Strieber during his abduction as he was pitifully screaming,. "God, oh God, please help, God, please help me." The aliens asked Whitley, "Why do you call for your Gods, we are the only ones here."


[edit on 12-9-2004 by johnlear]

For those of you not familiar with my background here is a copy of a talk I gave a few weeks ago to a pilot group here in Las Vegas:


One of the anguishes of advancing age is losing old friends. The upside of that, though, is that I get to tell the story my way.

I learned to fly at Clover Field in Santa Monica when I was 14. However before I got to get in an actual airplane Dad made me take 40 hours of Link with Charlie Gress. I can�t remember what I did yesterday but I guarantee you I could still shoot a 90 degree, Fade-out or Parallel radio range orientation.

When I turned 16 I had endorsements on my student license for an Aero Commander 680E and Cessna 310.

I got my private at 17 and instrument rating shortly thereafter. The Lockheed 18 Lodestar was my first type rating at age 18. I went to work for my father and brother flying copilot on a twin beech out of Geneva Switzerland after I got out of high school. Dad was over there trying to peddle radios to the European airlines. However just after I turned 18 and got my Commercial I was showing off my aerobatic talents in a Bucker Jungmann to my friends at a Swiss boarding school I had attended. I managed to start a 3 turn spin from too low an altitude and crashed. I shattered both heels and ankles and broke both legs in 3 places. I crushed my neck, broke both sides of my jaw and lost all of my front teeth. I managed to get gangrene in one of the open wounds in my ankles and was shipped from Switzerland to the Lovelace Clinic in Albuquerque where Randy Lovelace made me well. When I could walk again I worked selling pots and pans door to door in Santa Monica.

In late 1962 Dad had moved from Switzerland to Wichita to build the Lear Jet and I went to Wichita to be work in Public relations until November of 1963 about 2 months after the first flight when I moved to Miami and took over editing an aviation newspaper called Aero News. I moved the newspaper to El Segundo in California and ran it until it failed. I then got a job flight instructing at Progressive Air Service in Hawthorne, California. From there I went to Norman Larson Beech in Van Nuys flight instructing in Aircoupes. In the spring of 1965 I was invited by my Dad back to Wichita to get type rated in the model 23 Learjet. I then went to work for the executive aircraft division of Flying Tigers in Burbank who had secured a dealership for the Lear. In November of 1965 my boss Paul Kelly crashed number 63 into the mountains at Palm Springs killing everybody on board including Bob Prescotts 13 years old son and 4 of the major investors in Tigers. I took over his job as President of Airjet charters a wholly owned subsidiary of FTL and flew charters and sold Lears. Or rather tried to sell them. It turns out that I never managed to sell one Learjet in my entire life.

In March of 1966 2 lear factory pilots Hank Beaird, Rick King and myself set 17 world speed records including speed around the round the world, 65 hours and 38 minutes in the first Lear Jet 24. Shortly after that flight I got canned from Tigers and moved to Vegas and started the first 3rd level airline in Nevada, Ambassador Airlines. We operated an Aero Commander and Cherokee 6 on 5 stops from Las Vegas to LAX. This was about the time Hughes moved to Las Vegas and I was doing some consulting work for Bob and Peter Maheu. The money man behind Ambassador was Jack Cleveland who I introduced to John Myers in the Hughes organization. Cleveland and Myers tried to peddle the 135 certificate to Hughes without success and Jack ended up selling Howard those phony gold mining claims you all may remember. I went back to Van Nuys and was flying Lear charter part time for Al Paulson and Clay Lacy at California Airmotive, the Learjet distributor.

That summer I started a business called Aerospace Flight Research in Van Nuys were I rented aircraft to Teledyne to flight test their Inertial Guidance Systems. We had a B-26, Super Pinto and Twin Beech. I think we lasted about 4 months.

I then went to work for World Aviation Services in Ft. Lauderdale ferrying the Cessna O2 FAC airplane from Wichita, fresh of the assembly line to Nha Trang in Viet Nam with fellow QB Bill Werstlein. We were under the 4440th ADG Langley VA. and hooked up with a lot of other military pilots ferrying all manner and types of aircraft. Our route was Wichita to Hamilton, Hickam, Midway, Wake, Guam, Clark and then in country. The longest leg was Hamilton to Hickam an average of 16 hours, no autopilot, no copilot, and one ADF. We also had 3 piddle packs. Arriving in Nha Trang we would hitch a ride to Saigon and spend 3 days under technical house arrest, each trip, pay a fine for entering the country illegally, that is being civilians and not coming through a port of entry, catch an airline up to Hong Kong for a little R and R and straight back to Wichita for another airplane. I flew this contract for 4 years. During some off time in 1968 I attempted to ferry a Cessna 320 from Oakland to Australia with the first stop in Honolulu. About 2 hours out from Oakland I lost the right engine and had no provisions for dumping fuel. I went down into ground effect (T effect for you purists) and for 3 hours and 21 minutes flew on one engine about 25 feet above the waves and made it into Hamilton AFB after flying under the Golden Gate and Richmond bridges. An old friend Nick Conte, was officer of the day and gave me the royal treatment. Why did I go into Hamilton instead of Oakland? I knew exactly where the O club was for some much needed refreshment.

In September of 1968 between 0-2 deliveries I raced a Douglas B-26 Invader in the Reno Air Races. It was the largest airplane ever raced at Reno, and I placed 5th in the Bronze passing one Mustang. It was reported to me after the race by XB-70 project pilot Col. Ted Sturmthal that when I passed the P-51, 3 fighter pilots from Nellis committed suicide off the back of the grandstands. In the summer of 1970 I helped Darryl Greenamyer and Adam Robbins put on the California 1000 air race in Mojave California. That�s the one where Clay Lacy raced the DC-7. I flew a B-26 with Wally McDonald. I then started flying charter in an Aero Commander and Beech Queen Air for Aero Council a charter service out of Burbank. They went belly up about 3 months later and I went up to Reno to work for my Dad as safety pilot on his Lear model 25. After my Dad fired me I was personally escorted to the Nevada/California border by an ex-Los Angeles police detective who worked for Dad and did the muscle work. I went back down to Van Nuys and was Chief Pilot for Lacy Aviation and was one of the first pilot proficiency examiners for the Lear Jet.

In the summer of 1973 I moved to Phnom Penh, Cambodia as Chief Pilot and Director of Operations for Tri Nine Airlines which flew routes throughout Cambodia for Khmer Akas Air. I flew a Convair 440 an average of 130 hours a month. We had unlimited quantities of 115/145 fuel and ADI and were able to use full CB-17 power (which was 62� for any of you R-2800 aficionados). In November of 1973 I moved to Vientianne, Laos and flew C-46�s and Twin Otters for Continental Air Services Inc. delivering guns and ammo to the Gen. Vang Pao and his CIA supported troops. We got shot down one day and when I say we, Dave Kouba was the captain. We were flying a twin otter and got the right engine shot out. Actually the small arms fire had hit the fuel line in the right strut and fuel was streaming out back around the tail and being sucked into the large cargo opening in the side of the airplane and filling the cockpit with a fine mist of jet fuel. I held the mike in my hands, �Should I call Cricket and possibly blow us up or...?� (Some of you may remember Cricket�...�This is Cricket on guard with an air strike warning to all aircraft�.) But Davy found us a friendly dirt strip and we were back in the air the next day.

When the war came to an end in 1973 I moved back to Van Nuys and started flying Lears for Lacy again until October when I went up to Seattle and sat in on a Boeing 707 ground school for Air Club International on spec. 3 weeks later I ended up in the left seat of the 707 with a total of 8 hours in type. Air Club begat Aero America and we flew junkets out of Vegas for the Tropicana and Thunderbird Hotels. I left Aero having not been fired and in the summer of 1975 I was Director of Ops for Ambassador Airlines 2 flying 707 junkets also out of Vegas. After that airline collapsed I moved to Beirut, Lebanon in September of 1975 and flew 707�s for 2 years for Trans Mediterranean Airways a Lebanese cargo carrier. It was a very interesting job in that they had 65 stations around the world and you would leave Beirut with a copilot that had maybe 200 hours in airplanes and fortunately a first rate plumber and off you�d go around the world. My favorite run was Dubai to Kabul, Afghanistan with a stop in Kandahar. Kabul is a one way strip, land uphill and take off downhill, it was 6000 foot elevation with no navaids. During those 2 years I made many round the world trips and many over the pole trips.

In 1977 I moved back to Vegas and was Director of Operations for Nevada Airlines flying DC-3�s and Twin Beech�s to the Canyon. In September of 77 I was called to Budapest for another CIA operation flying 707�s loaded with arms and ammo to Mogadishu. Leaving Budapest then refueling in Jeddah we flew radio silence down the Red Sea trying to avoid the MiGs based in Aden, whose sole purpose on earth was to force us down. The briefing was simple. If you guys get into trouble DON�T CALL US. Back to Vegas in December of that year I was hired as Chief Pilot for Bonanza Airlines 2 operating DC-3�s and a Gulfstream 1 from Vegas to Aspen. After that airline collapsed I was hired by Hilton Hotels to fly their Lear 35 A. In my spare time I flew part time for Dynalectron and the EPA on an underground nuke test monitoring program. I flew their B-26, OV-10, Volpar Beech and Huey helicopter. I also flew the Tri Motor Ford part time for Scenic Airlines. In 1978 my Dad passed away and left me with one dollar, which incidentally, I never got. In 1980 I ran for the Nevada State Senate district 4. I lost miserably only because I was uninformed, unprepared and both of my size 9 triple E�s were continually in my mouth.

I got fired from Hilton shortly after that and moved to Cairo, Egypt to fly for Air Trans another CIA cutout. After the Camp David accords were signed in 1979 each country, Egypt and Israel were required to operate 4 flights a week into the others country. Of course, El Al pilots didn�t mind flying into Cairo but you could not find an Egyptian pilot that would fly into Tel Aviv. So an Egyptian airline was formed called Nefertiti Airlines with me as chief pilot to fly the 4 flights a week into Tel Aviv. On our off time we flew subcontract for Egyptair throughout Europe and Africa. All this, of course was just a cover for our real missions which was all kinds of nefarious gun running throughout Europe and Africa which we did in our spare time. And now that our beloved 40th president has passed on I can tell you that in fact (with my apologies to Michael Reagan) the October Surprise was true. The October surprise for those of you that don�t remember happened during October of 1980 when Reagan and Bush were running against Carter and Mondale George Bush was flown in a BAC 111 one Saturday night to Paris to meet with the Ayatollah Khomeini. Bush offered the Khomeini a deal whereby if he would delay the release of the hostages held in Tehran until Reagans inauguration, the administration would supply unlimited guns and ammunition to the Iranians. In order to get Bush back for a Sunday morning brunch so that nobody would be alerted to his absence he was flown back in an SR-71 from Reims field near Paris to McGuire AFB. Of course Reagan won, the hostages were released and one of my jobs in Cairo was to deliver those arms from Tel Aviv to Tehran. Unfortunately, the first airplane in, an Argentinean CL-44 was shot down by the Russians just south of Yerevan and Mossad who was running the operation didn�t want to risk sending my 707. The arms where eventually delivered through Dubai, across the Persian Gulf and directly into Terhan. During the 2 years I was in Cairo I averaged 180 hours a month with a top month of 236 hours in a 31 day period. I spent a 6 week tour in Khartoum flying cows to Saana, North Yemen in an old Rolls Royce powered 707.

Back in Las Vegas in December of 1982 I sat on my ass until I was out of money, again, and then went to work for Global Int�l Airlines in Kansas City, another CIA cutout run by Farhad Azima, an Iranian with a bonafide Gold Plated Get Out of Jail Free card flying 707�s until they collapsed in October of 83. During the summer of 1983 the FAA celebrated its 25th Anniversary at the Mike Monroney Aeronautical Center in Oklahoma City. There was much fanfare and speech making and 2 honored guests. Bill Conrad from Miami, Florida who had the most type ratings, I think over 50 . And myself. I had the most airman certificates issued of any other airman. After Globals collapse I went went to work for American Trans Air flying 707�s. I wrote their international navigation manual as MNPS for North Atlantic operations was just being implemented and became the first FAA designated check airman for MNPS navigation. ATA then added 727�s and then Lockheed L-1011�s. For a very brief time I was qualified as captain in all 3.

After getting fired from ATA in July of 1989 I became a freight dog flying DC-8�s for Rosenbalm Aviation which became Flagship Express and after that airline collapsed I was hired as Chief pilot for Patriot Airlines out of Stead Field in Reno, flying cargo 727�s from Miami to South America. After getting fired from Patriot I went to work for Connie Kalitta flying DC-8s then the L-1011 on which I was a check airman. Kalitta sold out to Kitty Hawk International which went bankrupt in May of 2000.

I was 57 at the time and nobody is going to hire an old fart for two and a half years except to fly sideways so I turned in my stripes and ever present flask of Courvoisier. Except for one last fling in March of 2001 where I flew the Hadj for a Cambodian Airline flying L-1011�s under contract to Air India. We were based in New Delhi and flew to Jeddah from all throughout India. There was absolutely no paperwork, no FAA, no BS and for 6 weeks we just moved Hadji�s back and forth to Saudi Arabia.

One final note, in October of 1999 I had the honor and extreme pleasure to get checked out in a Lockheed CF-104D Starfighter. My instructor was Darryl Greenamyer, the airplane was owned by Mark and Gretchen Sherman of Phoenix. It was the highlight of my aviation career particularly because I survived my first and only SFO in a high performance fighter.

One other thing, some how I managed to get he following type ratings: 707/720/727, Convair 240/340/440, DC-3, DC-8, B-26, Gulfstream 1, Lockheed Constellation, Lear Jet series, HS-125, Lockheed L-1011, Lockheed L-18, Lockheed P-38, Martin 202/404, B-17, B-25, Grumman TBM and Ford Trimotor. I also have single and multi engine sea, rotorcraft helicopter and gyroplane, and lighter than air free balloon. I never got all categories having missed the Airship. And in case you are interested many, many airmen have lots more type ratings. What I did get�that no other airman got was most FAA certificates: these are the ATP, Flight Instructor with airplane single and multi engine, instrument, rotorcraft helicopter and gyroplane and glider. Flight Navigator, Flight Engineer, Senior Parachute Rigger, Control Tower Operator, A&P, Ground Instructor, Advanced and Instrument and Aircraft Dispatcher. I have 19,488 hours of total time of which 15,325 hours is in 1,2,3 or 4 engine jet. I took a total of 181 FAA (or designated check airman) check rides and failed 2.

Of the thousands of times I knowingly violated an FAA regulation I was only caught once but never charged or prosecuted.

The farthest I have ever been off course was 321 miles left over the South China Sea in a 707 on New Years day 1977 on a flight from Taipai. The deviation was not caught by Hong Kong, Manila or Singapore radar and I penetrated six zero to unlimited restricted areas west of the Philippines. I landed in Singapore 7 minutes late without further incident. How, you ask, did I get so far off course? The short answer is I was napping at the controls. I have flown just about everywhere except Russia, China, Mongolia, Korea, Antarctica, Australia or New Zealand. I am a senior vice-commander of the American Legion Post No.1 Shanghai, China (Generals Ward, Chennault and Helseth) (operating in exile) and a 21 year member of the Special Operations Association.

Now some of you may be asking why so many airlines collapsed that I worked for and why I got fired so many times. My excuse is simple. I am not the brightest crayon in the box, I am extremely lazy, I have a smart mouth and a real poor f***ing attitude.




[edit on 12-9-2004 by johnlear]

Originally posted by johnlear
A few words on disclosure/ For those of you who doubt that the government can hide information for any length of time I've got news for you: you don't have the faintest idea of what they can hide.

Of this I have no doubts.

Any thoughts that any disclosure of an extraterrestrial nature will be made at anytime in the near or distant future is ignorant of the true facts.

What would you say in light of a situation that brought about an end to our current governments? Living in a global economy in which the U.S. is already engaged in oil wars to maintain itself over the next several years must mean that commodities such as oil are essential for keeping the status quo operational. A collapse of the current system could quite literally mean a collapse of current governments and along with it, the end of the secrecy oaths that our secret holders have taken. Granted there will always be a shadow government presence even in light of such a collapse, but I'm not so sure that even much of our secret holders have any oaths to such an organization. What I'm saying is that in light of government collapse, which could be any moment, could bring about some real disclosure in some fashion. Correct? After all, if you are so desperate to fight and die for oil and get caught in lies over reasons for invasions to get that oil, you must really need that oil badly. So much so that nothing else matters except for keeping UFOs/ETs in the closet. I suspect keeping our current way of life going is essential for keeping the secret.

Also, have you ever read about Catherine Austin Fitts and how overt HUD fraud is in regards to black budget operations? Really, if the black budget issue becomes too much of an issue, the secret will fall apart. It seems as though much of the secrecy is so tenuous that those who know about it all must be quaking in their boots as to any type of exposure, no matter how small. After all, Fitts has said all it takes is to look at the HUD books to see the fraud going on. If it ever became public enough to gather national attention, it could be disastrous for the secret holders.

And these facts are that nothing, ever, will ever be released unless it is a disinformation story to hide the real truth.

From our governments I absolutely agree on this. ET operations are a different matter. Surely they can come out and disclose themselves whenever they want and while it doesn't seem likely that they would at any time, they certainly don't keep themselves so secret as to maintain a totally invisible presence on the planet. Otherwise UFOs and ET encounters would never be reported. I suspect this is at least some sign that they aren't as secretive as we might think and that our governments likely do as much or greater job of keeping such paranormal situations away from the public eye as ETs do.

[edit on 12-9-2004 by heelstone]

Originally posted by partykid
John, was that the same incident in Area 51 shown on discovery science on Lazar's case? If im not mistaken, after filming the saucer government started to delete the path of Lazar. It was said that Lazar went out to show a test flight to some friends, was that the same night you were there? Quite interesitng indeed. Also ..

That is the same night, April 5, 1989.

quote: As iv'e read, you state that there undergound cities on earth all over the place, is that true, if, yes, im going to search for one, my monthly payment covers a plane and an expedition group. Ill do that for real.

You answered: "It is my opinion that there are, indeed, underground cities all over/under the earth. Some are ours, some are the ET's that come from outer space, some are the indiginous reptilians. Good luck on your search however I have already tried it. It is impossible. It will be a secret for ever and ever. Secret military installations in Nevada are easier to find but when you finally find them...you are dead, like in a pine box. "

What about digging?

Some are only a few hundred feet underground some are miles You'll need a backhoe, plenty of diesel and at least a 6 pak of quart sized water bottles.

Has someone you know tried to find these city entry points, or are they all held by govt. ? This is really interesting ..

There are many stories of people who've accidentally or on purpose gotten to the underground tunnels/cities/etc. No they are not all held by the government. But please know this: whichever group, the gov, the reps...we are not welcome down there.

What is Lazar doing right now? Is he making some progress, or gave up the whole thing?

Last I heard he was running unitednuclear.com website. If you go there, just a suggestion, don't EVEN mention flying saucers.

Originally posted by johnlear

Originally posted by ADHDsux4me
I admit I know very little about you, I will search for your backstory later.

I suppose one question I have is a philosophical question.

Do Aliens/Greys have a concept of a Great Divinity, or is it merely a human delusional explanation, to the questions we cannot answer?

Why is the Sky Blue? God did it?

If you could answer this question, it would put to rest a few conflicts of faith over science in my mind.

My Thanks,

-ADHDsux4me

Like the aliens told Whitley Strieber during his abduction as he was pitifully screaming,. "God, oh God, please help, God, please help me." The aliens asked Whitley, "Why do you call for your Gods, we are the only ones here."


[edit on 12-9-2004 by johnlear]

My mind will consume itself trying to pic apart that sentence. I need to get the inflection of the statement.

"We are the only ones here" IE. Hey Whitely, your pitiful Gods can't help you now. It's you, us, and an anal probe. lol

or

"We are the only ones here" Whitley, there are no Gods. There are only Humans and Greys.

or

"We are the only ones here" Whitley, we are your creators, and the closest thing to a God you will conceive in your pee-brain.

If you could just give me an indication which option you felt was communicated that would be helpfull.

My Thanks John, and great Flight and Jobs story. The curse of John Lear's job history. lol

-ADHDsux4me

I used to live at the Charleston, Eastern, and Boulder Highway triangle. In the not so pleasant area just south of Downtown. Near the Old Riverboat Casino, now Castaways. I love me a game of craps, lol.

-ADHDsux4me

My Thanks John, and great Flight and Jobs story. The curse of John Lear's job history. lol

-ADHDsux4me


Hey, they all look good to me!

I see,

It's left for us to ponder. I think you are working for them or maybe that God guy.

Conspiracies abound...

-ADHDsux4me

P.S. In hindsight, I can understand how answering this question can open up a can or worms, and have consequences such as destroying beliefs held as litany for the last 1969 years. It was ignorant of me to ask this, at least publicly.

John Lear is tired old news. He is a complete and total fraud. John is a typical sad story of the "son of a great man". Contrary to popular opinion, the apple CAN fall far away from the tree.

Desperate for ANY sort of noteriety to match his fathers popularity and accomplishments, he fabricated his story. Unfortunately for him, he decided to lash his story to Bob Lazar, another dubious character of Ufology.

Threre are lots of facsinating and intriguing stories out there....John's isnt one of them.

Sad story

Hi John,

Although it may not seem like it from the occasional moron in here (who smacks of a governmental disinformation agent) and who tries to stomp on anyone who has a strong opinion on anything, I and others in the forum appreciate you having the courage to give us your honest appraisal.

(Now if we can just get Bob Lazar in here too, we could really get things rolling. *L*)

The "god" of the Zetans is Mind and Technology. They are not to be reasoned with about what they consider to be irrelevant concepts like "morality" and striving to live by The Golden Rule. The only way they will stop treating many of us like laboratory animals is when they are forced to stop.

You can't reason with people like that. It's like trying to debate terrorists.

The only recourse is to destroy them.

This will happen eventually, despite their significant advantage in technology and industrial capacity.

But I digress.

I have a question for you...

You mentioned there are over 90 different species of aliens that are monitoring and/or visiting this world. Is there a site where we can see the list and learn more about this?

My impression is from my own research is that the vast majority of the alien races in question are really just variations of genetic manipulation from the Reptilians, Greys, Praying Mantis types, Homo sapien Hybrids, Nordics, and what not.

I think that many of us would be very interested in getting your take on the additional species of humanoid life that is keeping an eye on the activities of this planet, if you are privy to such knowledge.

Thank you.




[edit on 12-9-2004 by Paul_Richard]

Originally posted by Leonidas
John Lear is tired old news. He is a complete and total fraud. John is a typical sad story of the "son of a great man". Contrary to popular opinion, the apple CAN fall far away from the tree.

Desperate for ANY sort of noteriety to match his fathers popularity and accomplishments, he fabricated his story. Unfortunately for him, he decided to lash his story to Bob Lazar, another dubious character of Ufology.

Threre are lots of facsinating and intriguing stories out there....John's isnt one of them.

Sad story

'm not only tired old news, I am a tired old man. Your opinion is shared by many, thanks for airing it.

Well, I see we have some people starting to get upset, even if you believe Mr. Lear is a fraud, it's pretty childish to throw out a damning and insulting statement like that without proving it.

Personally, I only have an opinion of what the truth is. I think that there are maybe a few dozen people in this world that know the whole truth, the rest of us are left to feed off of the scraps which they discard. So, in the very least, Mr. Lear is providing us with an eye opening series of experiences and views. And at the most, he's giving us a scenario which ties up alot of loose ends. I for one have witnessed and been a part of many experiences that most of you wouldn't believe, so just because something doesn't fit into societies "accepted" sphere of events doesn't mean you should be quick to discredit it.

I choose to believe that we, as the human race, have been communicating with extra-terrestrial races for a while now. I'm not so arrogant as to deny the possibility and probability that there are more advanced lifeforms in the universe than us. With that said, as humans in the grand scale of the universe, we are comparable to some inferior species of self-destructive termites. We are exhausting our home planet's natural resources while helping to kill of the other natural inhabitants of this giant sandbox that we dominate. So I would think that a more advanced and intelligent race would view us as either a danger or in the very least, murderers, because of our generally violent tendencies towards each other and towards earth's animals.

Most people don't understand that they live their life focusing on material objects and the pursuit of pleasure, all at the expense of the earth's reasources. In the big picture, the average human's life is detrimental to the planet, just another grain of dirt on top of the coffin. I think that that's the way other races view us and I think that that's going to be the cause of our suffering in the next few years.

The U.S. Government can get away with whatever they want, including covering up what's really going on. How many people have come forward on various subjects regarding government conspiracies? Alot have had at least some sort of evidence too. But their stories are regarded as crazy because the American society has been conditioned, with the help of the media, the education system and the religious infrastructures, to not believe any of these stories.

And I can honestly say that I don't think the world could handle it if George W. set up a live conference and interviewed an alien right on C-Span. Half of the world would go crazy and the other half wouldn't believe it. The truth is; we are being conditioned to accept absolute control over our lives and I believe that the governments of the world, including ours, are going to exterminate most of the world's population. After that, maybe the survivors will carry on with an improved technology that will make pollution a thing of the past, I don't know.

I know that sounds crazy, but it makes the most sense to me. I've also experienced som things in which I can only say that that scenario has been insinuated to me by people in the know.

Believe me, I hope it's not true! But, I agree with Mr. Lear, we don't have the right to know, not only can we not handle it, but life as we know it would cease to exist. And as crazy as I may seem, I still like going to the movies and eating at restaurants, drinking a few beers at a baseball game and sleeping in a bed under a roof, so I am cherishing life until that day comes. And if it doesn't come, then I can say that I led a very satisfying life.

Originally posted by Paul_Richard


I have a question for you...

You mentioned there are over 90 different species of aliens that are monitoring and/or visiting this world. Is there a site where we can see the list and learn more about this?

My impression is from my own research is that the vast majority of the alien races in question are really just variations of genetic manipulation from the Reptilians, Greys, Praying Mantis types, Homo sapien Hybrids, Nordics, and what not.

I think that many of us would be very interested in getting your take on the additional species of humanoid life that is keeping an eye on the activities of this planet, if you are privy to such knowledge.

Thank you.

[edit on 12-9-2004 by Paul_Richard]

You listed some of the basic types hanging around. There are 2 types of greys, the ones that are about 4 ft. tall and the large greys about 6 feet tall. Sorry, I don't know of any site that lists all the species and even if they did would we believe them? One person who knows a lot and was a security guard in the underground complex at Groom Lake is now doing life at Lovelock Correctional Institute for talking about it. My understanding is that he will discuss his knowledge only with those who are there doing the same amount of time.

Mr. Lear, Can you speculate about what's going on at Camp Hero/Montauk State Park? Would an investigative trip to Camp Hero or Dulce be worth the risk in your opinon?

Originally posted by ledbedder20
Mr. Lear, Can you speculate about what's going on at Camp Hero/Montauk State Park? Would an investigative trip to Camp Hero or Dulce be worth the risk in your opinon?

I've never been to Montauk but I spent a couple of days in Dulce with Gabe Valdez (the highway patrolman who knew a lot about the cattle mutilations) looking for the underground base. No luck. Go for it!

John, believing your story, we are an experiment and ETs, whoever they are, made us to think that we are the only intelligent lifeform in the universe, but we don't .. That could mean the experiment probably is gone wrong? Also you didn't answer the q. i asked previous, about underground cities .. Has anyone you know tried to search for entrypoints, dig? Also, you stated, you tried to find them for yourself, can you share us your story on this matter? In the matter of fact, i belive John completely about underground cities, for example, take an atlas, and look at Antarctica, huge land mass, i doubt that it's empty even nowadays, but i wonder how deep are the cities. Reminds me Zion from "Matrix", actually.

Originally posted by Leonidas
John Lear is tired old news. He is a complete and total fraud. John is a typical sad story of the "son of a great man". Contrary to popular opinion, the apple CAN fall far away from the tree.

Desperate for ANY sort of noteriety to match his fathers popularity and accomplishments, he fabricated his story. Unfortunately for him, he decided to lash his story to Bob Lazar, another dubious character of Ufology.

Threre are lots of facsinating and intriguing stories out there....John's isnt one of them.

Sad story

Any more insulting to John. Actions will be taken. If you post, post something credible, if you can't, don't post at all.

Hi John,

Can you please give us your opinions regarding David Sereda's � NASA Evidence� investigations and what were your conclusions to Sereda's outcome?

What are your opinions of the STS-80 footage of the formation of UFO's over North Africa?

Is this not the most ignored UFO footage of all time? Not counting all the other NASA footage. Do you think that NASA are becoming the �laughing stock� of the scientific community, because of their refusal to acknowledge that we are getting visited by other civilizations and have been for centuries?

john has a lot of questions to answer

including:

if the gov. will never willingly disclose, and there is more to the story than we can guess at; why then dont you fill us in on what we're missing? also, if disclosure is a lost cause why do you visit this site? to watch us run around in circles?

answer when you get to it.

-lost