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Having a spiritual nature as a living, thinking being, we can ignore that aspect of ourselves, or we can recognize its existence and utilize its ability to connect with a higher spirit that will help our own spirit of who we are, so that we can be like that other spirit to continue on past this physical self.
All the knowing that you are in need of, to discern and to weigh and measure...are within you. Deep down, you know what the nature of spirit is. You can follow another...or you can claim your own birth right to be here and discern between what is of flesh and spirit, with your heart.
"The first peace, which is the most important, is that which comes within the souls of people when they realize their relationship, their oneness with the universe and all its powers, and when they realize that at the center of the universe dwells the Great Spirit, and that this center is really everywhere, it is within each of us." Black Elk
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by LeoVirgo
I wasn't intentionally trying to contradict you.
Seems you have shifted your philosophy since a year ago.
Back then, I took your Thou to be what you called God.
Seems like you changed Thou to mean, me.
the flesh is material. How can things like greed, envy,jealousy be attributes of flesh.this makes little if any sense.
Originally posted by LeoVirgo
reply to post by jmdewey60
Our own spirit, is the higher spirit. There is only One, Thee, in Spirit. We know Thee's nature, because we are of Thee. We can discern through this spirit, the IAM that is within us and in all life...to learn what we, as spirit, are not...like pride, greed, selfish, envy, jealousy, ect...are attributes of flesh only. Knowing between flesh and spirit, helps us discern all past and the nature of stories and truths. Knowing that the nature of Spirit, helps us see things in the past that were not of a divine nature through man or that was not of a spiritual nature for 'God'.
I was just trying to help some see, the right to discern, is yours. We all have the same spiritual birth right that can not be taken away and its ours to have, to discern.
Always my best to you!
LV
I feel that this all is such a truth that it is what I feel any seeker will find when they can really cast desires and fears aside and seek all the past and natures ways, for understanding.