Website: America 2011 IS Germany 1939.

Originally posted by Frontkjemper

Originally posted by ReadyPower
'illegals'

Why the quotes? An illegal is a person who unlawfully entered the United States of America. Every country has laws against this, and if you don't believe me then go to Mexico and see what happens to you there.

Sorry for veering off topic.

I'm from Australia and I lived in SoCal for two years, I drove to Mexico a few times and not once did they look at my passport when I enterd their country. In fact the first time I went there I had to go and find someoone to stamp my passport just so I could say I'd been there. I guess they know that a person from a developed country isn't about to become an illigal in Mexico. interesting thing is when I went to get my passport stamped they were a bit cold to me until I started to talk.

Remember the Revolutionary War?

If they decide to declare me a terrorist, then they can bank on me acting like one.

Originally posted by JDmOKI
reply to post by nh_ee

 

I agree with you completely. When u supply food and water to a population destroyed economically by foreign treaties; they will do anything for you. The treaty of Versailles was basically blaming WW1 on Germany unfairly.

It was because of how unfair it was that at the time it was said to be a twenty years cease fire. Even then people knew that WW2 was going to come because of how unfair the treaty of Versailles was. And the french pushed hard for that unfairness. I guess they got what was coming to them.

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In fact even in youth when you compare Hitler, Churchill and Roosevelt. Hilter was the golden child.

Many historians...amateur and professional, agree that had Hitler died in 1938, he would have gone down in history as a superior satesman and one of the top world leaders of history.

I agree with the general premise of the thread, HOWEVER, I think your timeline is skewed. Instead of Germany 1939, it is more like Germany 1928.

In the major cities of Germany, there is a social unrest bubbling under... protests against the government are growing led by factions leaning Communist, Socialist, Nationalist, and even some loyal to the government in power. The military, after a series of wars and a bitter defeat in 1918, is small and elitist and noble...

The economy is a wreck, the currency is in free fall, people live in hovels in alleys, the poor are everywhere, and a sense of weariness and powerless discord has settled across the country. A country just 20 or so years before that had been an international power house, that had interests around the world in S America, Africa, Mexico...now in utter despair. A people known for engineering feats and superior design... now reduced to buying loaves of bread with wheel barrow loads of infaltionary paper money.

In the parks and beer halls and cabarets, they gather... the unemployed, the leftout, the veterans reduced to asking for handouts... some speak of revolution, some look to the recent people's movements from Russia, some seek to re-establish the former glory and dignity betrayed by an enemy from within...

There are sporadic sparks of anti-semitism....defeat and economic collapse blamed on the greedy Jewish bankers, blame is turned on the big businesses that betrayed the country that helped make them rich...

In the small towns, defence forces and "fraternal orders" and "social lodges" form and quickly arm themselves to provide a means of defense for when they parade and form rallys... those groups with similar views ally and begin to form populist political fronts, making an impact on local and regional elections.

This is about 1927-28-29... this is the atmosphere that spawned civil war, open conflict and armed confrontation between rival movements, and the churning social discontent that gave birth to the national Socialist... and Adolf Hitler... backed from behind the curtains by the Thule Society and the Vrile Society... made up of business and industry and certain military elements... quietly funding and backing several of the movements and hedging their bets.

Does any of this sound familiar???????

reply to post by ReadyPower
The Past is Prologue. Time to ask ourselves this question. Why, if America is the Greatest Nation that God Ever Created On the Earth, mightiest in armed forces, investigative abilities, and moral certitude, are Americans so oppressed with false fears and neurotic impulses to run for the hills whenever some minor threat occurs? In the Fifties when I grew up it was the Red Scare! A commie under every bed! People began to build fall-out shelters for the coming Atomic War with Russia. The facts were the Russians developed nuclear weapons to defend themselves from the old people on earth NOT AFRAID to nuke two cities...that would be Americans. We destroyed Japan in two days. The Russians were right to be afraid of us. We would most certainly nuke the Kremlin if it were in our best interests. And there were men in power at the time who wanted to do just that! Once the Russians got nukes though, things did not go so easily for us. Then we became afraid. All right, we were afraid of nuclear detestation (as well we should be, but we need to see it is US who provoke the rest of the world into trying and vying for nuclear weapons...)

But the idea that the Russians were going to contrive a "take-over" in secret of our country, was the vision of one drunk Senator named Joe McCarthy, "Tail-Gunner Joe" and his cronies literally made up false documents accusing nearly everyone and their brother in the US of being secret commies. They called it a "Witch Hunt" and it was, just like those of the Middle Ages, people turning in their own parents, teachers, pastors...actors were tossed out of work, writers fired, black-listed so they could never work again, in Hollywood, and in newspapers, tv and radio all over the country! When people say conspiracies in the govt. are never real or powerful, I laugh. I know about the Reichstag Fire. So did Joe McCarthy! He used the same sort of propaganda machine Goebbels had developed to round up Jews, so Joe could round up commies! Turned out the Russkis didn't have the man-power, will or even the real missiles! They were a bankrupt country that had to come to us for their daily bread. We had nothing to fear from them, even in Khrushchev's day. They had a finger on a button that wasn't even wired to anything! Trying to bluff us, who they KNEW would eradicate them from the face of the earth given a chance.

Now we live in a time where nations like France, Germany and Israel have faced numerous bus, restaurant, office building bombings. In Israel rockets are fired almost every day from Syria and elsewhere into Israel, destroying people and property. I have a friend there who suffered through ten years of bus bombings by suicidal Muslims. And yet these people did NOT become afraid and outlaw their own freedoms in order to be "protected" by fascist dictatorships!. Here in the US however eight men with some knowledge of flying jumbo jets and a couple of box-cutters have seemingly terrified us so much we have to start questioning Mexicans in Arizona, Mormons in Tennessee, and public librarians in order to get a handle on the "terrorist menace" from Al Qaeda! When in fact we've had more openly public terrorist bombings from crazed "Preppers" and religious cultists than we have had from Muslims. And yet men like Glenn Beck were eager and adept at showing the "links" to every conceivable nutbar with a gun to the Muslim Brotherhood...or whatever. Are we this pissing scared as Americans that we will once again disable our freedoms and railroad our own people into FEMA prison camps because of eight guys carrying box-cutters and the meanderings of phony pundits like Beck?

If we had made locking steel doors on our aircraft, as the Israelis did in the 70's, there would have been NO hijackings. But no. We are cheap, retarded and goalless. We have no idea we even have an enemy until one steps on our gigantic toe. Then like the proverbial elephant terrified of a mouse, we go insane with fear and start duct-taping everything! It's time we repaired our brains and started seeing that the threat really is our lack of common sense.

Three thousand people were killed in the 9-11 attacks. While cancer from smoking cigarettes, a useless product and disastrous health risk to everyone, kills fifty thousand a year or more! Yet do we declare R.J. Reynolds and National Threat or a Terrorist Cell? Our priorities are all skewed. And if we fail to recognize the patterns of fear and xenophobia which drive this country towards Fascism, we will go down in history as the Dream Nation that Failed from Fear. I say when we think someone fears or hates our "freedoms" we become MORE free! And that we Live free or Die! I am so tired of living in a country of cowards.

I saw this when Obama came in... he took over the banking and auto industry right away.. then he censored the newspaper outlets (internet)

just like Hitler

reply to post by AlreadyGone

Chillingly familiar...