Stop the fear mongering. No wars are about to happen. Here's why.

No need to continue the fear mongering. Your gold is not going to go up. I know you all want a world war and total economic collapse just so your gold and silver goes up. Sorry no wars are going to happen with Iran or Syria. Here's why.

There will be no war because of oil. This is not 2006 anymore. Our economy is still recovering. A spike in oil will destory our chance of economic recovery. That simple. Sorry folks, a war will not boost our economy when you subtract the damage that high oil will do it.

In the past years, together the FRB and Congress/President have spend trillions to stimulated the economy and jump start it through fiscal polices and bond purchases. The Government is not going to let that all go to waste over a war with Iran, as that will send oil off the roof and destory our economy. That simple.

Also stop the fear mongering and the bad reporting of non event news. Here is a example of how fear spread on the internet thanks to the doomers. To bad they were wrong. Again.

Calm down, the aircraft carrier is not off Syria

With little having been disclosed to the public at this point, and no assurance as to what is actually being planned or proposed, speculation is rampant. DEBKA and the Russian agency RT are hyperventilating today over a report that USS George H W Bush (CVN-77) has anchored off the Syrian coast. But Bush actually pulled into Marseilles on the 25th for a long-scheduled port visit (and posted photos from a reception in Marseilles on Saturday at her Facebook page). French local press confirms the carrier’s presence.

The Russians may or may not have dispatched three warships to Tartus to signal that they don’t want a Western intervention in Syria, and that they want to protect their alliance with the Assad regime. The report originated with Syria, and Russia is being coy about the ships. It would be very easy to disprove the Syrian news story, if the ships aren’t there. And they may well be, calling in Tartus from the anti-piracy station off Somalia, as a Russian anti-piracy task force did in September.

Meanwhile, reports that the Russian carrier Admiral Kuznetsov is in the Med are premature. As of 24 November, the carrier and her escorts were still in the Northern Fleet operations area in the Barents Sea, awaiting a pre-deployment inspection. The transit to the Strait of Gibraltar will take at least 8 days once it starts; the Russian media report that Kuznetsov will be in the Med in December. Her deployment has been scheduled for some time; of course her activities are indicators of Russian national interests, but they aren’t necessarily an indication of reaction to yesterday’s news.

Bush deployed from Norfolk on 11 May, and is on the way home at the end of her deployment (which will be 7 rather than 6 months if she arrives in Norfolk around the 11th of December). It’s possible for Bush to be held in the Med for some reason in the next couple of weeks, but she is not the best platform for providing logistic support to an NFZ – and, indeed, is superfluous for that mission in the Med. The Air Force, with our existing infrastructure of resources in Europe, can do the whole job, and do it better. If Bush’s air wing were to be used for anything, it would be initial strikes on the Syrian air-defense infrastructure. But it’s not clear that US assets are even going to be involved in that phase of the operation. Bush is due in Norfolk before Christmas, and my money is on her continuing home when the port visit ends in Marseilles (she is scheduled to depart on Tuesday 29 November).

hotair.com...

No war with Iran, Russia or China, and Syria.

I hope not

Starred and Flagged.
Common sense when it comes to the entire destruction of human civilization is almost nonexistent online. I would assume it's because it lets people disassociate themselves from the actual situation, Or "If I worry about it, It won't happen". Grow up people. World War isn't something that sneaks up on you and breaks out over nothing. (And on a grand scale, Syria is nothing)

I should probably mention, OP. This thread won't get many replies. Because common sense isn't a sexy subject to talk about. No, It's much more interesting to play armchair general and theorize how we're all going to die this week as opposed to last week.

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Stop the fear mongering. No wars are about to happen.

Wow. What a beautifully overreaching statement.

Peace in our time, huh?

Deja Vu

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Gold will go up due to $15,000,000,000,000 debt and $1,800,000,000,000 added to it with each passing year at the current rate. That is why the US keeps going after anyone who tries to sell oil for something other than USD.

Got any good recipes for gold?b

I don't think it is as simple as you make it out to be. There are some players in the game that really don't care if the price of oil goes up, in fact some countries would likely benefit from it. TPTB know that oil is the most valuable resource on the planet and will do whatever it takes to secure as much of it as they can. That is why China is backing up Iran, they don't have any other reason to (except maybe because they are significant trading partners as well).

Oil is certainly a major factor these days but in the Middle East 'security' has to be considered as well. If Iran really is developing nuclear weapons, do you think Israel will refrain from destroying them just because they don't want the price of oil to go up? I doubt it.

I respectfully disagree.

Oil prices are controlled by the oil industry. When (if ever) did they give a rats-ass about the economy? They're interested in 1 thing and 1 thing only - profits. War is actually beneficial to them. They get to claim "unrest in the middle east" as an excuse to raise prices and then BAM! - record revenues and bonuses for the year.

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Our economy is still recovering. A spike in oil will destory our chance of economic recovery. That simple.

That is the basis of your argument and it's wrong. Ya think the elite cares about the economic recovery? Nope. They care about profits, death, destruction, globalism, police state, putting all countries under their thumb. They couldn't care less about the American economic recovery. The crash was ENGINEERED... in the first place, you think they want a recovery?

Sorry but I think you are wrong.

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World War isn't something that sneaks up on you and breaks out over nothing.

The last world war never snuck up on anyone. It required an age of appeasement by leaderless nations leading societies that were too self-absorbed to see it coming. And like the OP... the message was that there was no war coming. Tojo was simply trying to help stabilize Manchuria. Hitler had saved Germany and only wanted to unite the Germanic peoples under a single flag. And old Mussolini? He was just out on a little sporting safari in Ethiopia.

It really does take an oblique to miss these things... and unfortunately, a series of generations that have forgotten history to deny them.

Like I said to the OP, it's peace in our time all over again.

Global annihalation will take the form of a pandemic, much cleaner and less messy than destroying all the things that TPTB will require to continue living in the life they have become accustomed to. as long as the infrastructure is still in place very few people will be required to operate and maintain. they're obviously not quite at the stage for targeted deployment yet.

Unless of course the Industrial Military Complex will need feeding shortly

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Increidlbly naive post.
Who exactly will there be to buy oil in the event of a full scale world war? Of course, It is the blood of war machines and armies. But when this war is over. Who is left to buy the oil? The destroyed industry of all the countries involved? The armies that would already be banktrupt and crippled with a massive surplus?
No, An astronomical one time hike of oil prices caused by war is terrible for business. A constant steady rise of already jacked up prices, caused by small skrimishes around the world? Thats what drives massive oil profits.

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Look how WW1 started and WW2 then tell me nothing is similar and no war's are gonna happen.

History repeats itself and we are just about to go into round 3.

No one wants it, but the writing on the wall is quite obvious.

Besides destruction on a grand scale means less oil needed...

I read the OP as "Wars aren't about to happen, here, at my home, any time soon."

You're wrong. People have had enough, people with weapons and grudges. They're hoping the UN and US don't push the matter, but they know they will. You may think war is America and the UN bombing innocent brown people some other place, so you don't have to worry.

All those millions of deaths are going to come home to roost some day. Don't think it wont.

But your forgetting all these wars are ultimately fought about oil..

As Walter Rayleigh said in the 16th century.. He who controls the sea's control the world...

now replace the word sea with oil..

Originally posted by Mart0

Starred and Flagged.
Common sense when it comes to the entire destruction of human civilization is almost nonexistent online. I would assume it's because it lets people disassociate themselves from the actual situation, Or "If I worry about it, It won't happen". Grow up people. World War isn't something that sneaks up on you and breaks out over nothing. (And on a grand scale, Syria is nothing)

I'm not sure if you're being serious or not. Our history books in school taught us WW1 & WW2 snook up on us, and broke out over what seemed to be a series of small, "random" events. At the same time, people who look a bit deeper may see many parallels between the marcosocial terrain of those times just before war, and right now.

All we need is enough "sparks" to have this baby roast for a long while, imo.

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WW2 happened because of the lack of foresight at the end of WW1. It was a direct consequence of the treaty of Versailles. You're treating WW2 like it was an entirely different path and was caused by the leaders of Europe. Yes, It was implemented by the leaders of Europe, But WW1 set the wheels in motion.

So where is our "WW1"? Answer: There is none. There is no massive international injustice that would be the match for another world war.
And before you say "Syria"..No, Syria isn't a massive injustice. It's a backward government treating its people like garbage and is being isolated for doing so.
Forgetting the past? Forgetting the past would be letting Sryia keep commiting the war crimes they are dealing to its citizens everyday.

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Well I'm not going to blindly accept your word for it, but I think that if for whatever reason they want to go to war, they'll do it. Regardless of lack of resources...

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Just to clarify. Just because the USS Bush ported in Marseille does not mean what you are implying. Have you looked at a map? The distance between the two is negligible for an aircraft carrier and the ship could recall all the sailors and set sail and be within striking distance in a matter of hours. They are simply keeping distance but still close enough to be in the middle of it if called into action.

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Then your history book is horribly misinformed. Anyone worth their salt saw WW1 coming back in the early 1900's. Eastern Europe was a powder keg. Ferdinand being killed was just the reason to go to war. The serbs were begging to finally have at it with the Austro-Hungarian empire for hundreds of years.

WW2 was also seen coming a mile away. Fighting didn't even break out properly until 6 months after war was declared anyways.