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Originally posted by JimOberg
I did a lot of work on obtaining and making available research results on STS-48, STS-63,. STS-75, STS-80, and I'm happy to do additional cases once it's clear my time would be productively spent. The proof of that would be folks agreeing that the research already published has established the non-extraordinariness of those particular videos.
Otherwise, challenges to do OTHER cases when it's clear the challengers have no intention of seriously considering any nerw evidence or ever accepting a non-UFO explanation, is just a useless time-wasting scheme.
Originally posted by JimOberg
Zorgon, that's clumsy -- the old baiteroo and switcheroo trick of the con man.
If that's what you think I've been telling people, you haven't been paying attention. Phenomena of genuine importance and interest can get lost in the avalanche of 'noise' and 'junk' that makes up this genre, IMHO.
And no, Story's tale about his 'space snakes' belongs in the 'blow the earthling minds with weird images' narrative -- he doesn't seem to think it's proof of anything UFO-related.
There are plenty of 'official NASA statements' in response to specific inquiries about specific images and stories. None were written by me. All seem to be totally ignored hereabouts.
NASA is the focal point for answering public inquiries to the Whitehouse relating to UFO's. NASA is not engaged in a research program involving these phenomena, nor is any other government agency
DoD Release February 1, 1978
Searching for ET, But No Evidence Yet
By Phil Larson
White House Office of Science & Technology Policy
11-4-11
Thank you for signing the petition asking the Obama Administration to acknowledge an extraterrestrial presence here on Earth.
The U.S. government has no evidence that any life exists outside our planet, or that an extraterrestrial presence has contacted or engaged any member of the human race. In addition, there is no credible information to suggest that any evidence is being hidden from the public's eye.
Originally posted by JimOberg
Zorgon hasn't actually presented evidence that 'NASA won't let [him] have' such tapes, as far as I remember.
And his pathetic attempt to blame HIS inability to obtain them on ME -- as if I were the single-point-failure in the UFO community's cosmic FAIL to accurately assess these reports, is another lame blame-shifting gimmick.
I did a lot of work on obtaining and making available research results on STS-48, STS-63,. STS-75, STS-80, and I'm happy to do additional cases once it's clear my time would be productively spent. The proof of that would be folks agreeing that the research already published has established the non-extraordinariness of those particular videos.
Otherwise, challenges to do OTHER cases when it's clear the challengers have no intention of seriously considering any nerw evidence or ever accepting a non-UFO explanation, is just a useless time-wasting scheme.
He didn't have to "intercept" anything, although we would all be better off if Zorgon's ravings 'intercepted' reality a little more regularly.
in·ter·cept
[v. in-ter-sept; n. in-ter-sept] Show IPA
verb (used with object)
1. to take, seize, or halt (someone or something on the way from one place to another); cut off from an intended destination: to intercept a messenger.
2. to see or overhear (a message, transmission, etc., meant for another): We intercepted the enemy's battle plan.
Originally posted by SplitInfinity
Not to take sides here but....NASA is well aware of E.T. craft observing shuttle activities. Alot of footage is just ice or debris....and NASA....with the one slip I know of....very rarely displays UFO's in movement close to either the Shuttles or ISS.
But there is that one time they sliped up...I should look up what number mision it was...by a female Astronaut...caught saying...because she forgot to switch to the ENCRIPTED MILITARY COM.CHANNEL they use when launching Military payloads....and her statemet was confirmed by several HAM radio opperators listening in on Earth.....and their big mistaske was to release the video of her looking out the shuttles window and answerering Houston.....after they asked sts....what is your current status? And she answers....Mission Control...We are still monitering the Alien Craft in proximity to us....further instructions....or something to thast extent....when Houston literally SCREAMS......STS....change to something something com channel!
Then we can see her switching a few buttons and continuing to observe through the window. Split Infinity
Originally posted by zorgon
Originally posted by JimOberg
Zorgon, that's clumsy -- the old baiteroo and switcheroo trick of the con man.
So your saying that isn't Story in that video stating he thinks they are biological as opposed to alien space craft? But Jim you said to look him up and he clearly says CRITTERS... but a SNAKE?
If that's what you think I've been telling people, you haven't been paying attention. Phenomena of genuine importance and interest can get lost in the avalanche of 'noise' and 'junk' that makes up this genre, IMHO.
Well I will grant you that... so lets make a deal. Show us your best case UFO that you don't think is 'dust, ice or debris'
And no, Story's tale about his 'space snakes' belongs in the 'blow the earthling minds with weird images' narrative -- he doesn't seem to think it's proof of anything UFO-related.
Your right he stresses critters over UFO's and I agree. If you don't like that why always point to him to back you up? You know many of us are on the critter side of the fence
There are plenty of 'official NASA statements' in response to specific inquiries about specific images and stories. None were written by me. All seem to be totally ignored hereabouts.
We don't ignore them, we just don't believe them, like the latest Whitehouse statement in response to that petition... Here is one... from the DoD Homeland Defense
dod.gov/pubs/foi/homeland_defense/UFOs/nasa_u1.pdf
NASA is the focal point for answering public inquiries to the Whitehouse relating to UFO's. NASA is not engaged in a research program involving these phenomena, nor is any other government agency
DoD Release February 1, 1978
So if NASA is NOT engaged in a research program involving these phenomena WHY are they the 'focal point' for public inquiries to the Whitehouse relating to UFO's
And here is the Whitehouse statement
Searching for ET, But No Evidence Yet
By Phil Larson
White House Office of Science & Technology Policy
11-4-11
Thank you for signing the petition asking the Obama Administration to acknowledge an extraterrestrial presence here on Earth.
The U.S. government has no evidence that any life exists outside our planet, or that an extraterrestrial presence has contacted or engaged any member of the human race. In addition, there is no credible information to suggest that any evidence is being hidden from the public's eye.
So there you have it NO UFO's Its official... so we can shut down ATS and all go get a real lifeedit on 29-11-2011 by zorgon because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by JimOberg
Otherwise, why bother?
Originally posted by zorgon
Originally posted by JimOberg
Otherwise, why bother?
Hmmm well how about you make a call to your Russian contacts and get us a ride up there and we can take a look around ourselves?