The danger of the belief in Ron Paul.

the following is my personal opinion, I have ZERO facts to back it up other than a gut feeling..

Now that that is out of the way so I don't have people screaming at me to put out facts...or screaming facts back at me (don't you just hate that) I like a lot of what Dr Paul has to say, and I applaud his voting record, however... It's very odd to me, that this person who has run many times before, even so far as the libertarian candiate for president, is suddenly thrust upon us as a savior from all that ills us. I will repeat that statement again for those who just wanna pick me apart.

I have a very bad feeling in my gut when someone is thrust out of nowhere as the savior for all that ills me. (I seem to remember the EXACT same arguments being made for Obama, word for word) It's just something to think about, forget the voting record, it's easy to sit in a place and just vote no on everything, It's quite another to be able to get up and lead a country out of the worst cycle in it's history, again, wasn't Obama supposed to do all that according to the non-mainstream at the time?

Just had to get that in because it seems no matter how many times I say it, it is ignored by everyone around me. If someone is propped up to be your savior, shouldn't we be a little wary after all the claims before?

reply to post by GenLo


I, honestly, think you're communication is "dizzy." That's my nice way of saying "nuts." I don't say this to be taken as an attack, but to strongly and directly point to the foolishness of your concern. If Ron Paul stops supporting the constitution, I will stop supporting him. He is not a savior/anti-savior as your fear has caused you to surmise. He is a, so far, consistent politician. I agree, it's almost beyond belief, but his accomplishment does not cause me to remove good judgment from my mind, heart, and conduct. To the contrary, it shows me that it is possible for me to act more godly. This will not change, even if Ron Paul fails in ANY way.

reply to post by GenLo




4 possible scenarios that I see:

(1) Ron Paul is a shill, and is placed there simply to make people think they have a dog in the fight

(2) Ron Paul is not a shill, but is allowed to participate in the elections to make people think they have a dog in the fight.

(3) Ron Paul is a shill, and when put into office, would be "inundated" with false flag terror until he is "forced" to declare the martial law that he so adamantly warned against.

(4) Ron Paul is not a shill, but would soon be assassinated much like JFK if he were to win the election and try to reform the country.

Have we forgotten that JFK was the last President that tried to challenge the Federal Reserve?

reply to post by vkey08


While Obama is a career socialist, Paul is a career gentleman. Your post is sensational and distracting from political progress/healing. Ron Paul supports good things, and so long as that is the case, I support his campaign. If he sells himself, or tries to sell the people, to corruption, he will lose the support of those who understand and strive for true civil liberties. Calm down and don't lose your balance because the shadows can take the form of a boogeyman.

reply to post by vkey08

the following is my personal opinion, I have ZERO facts to back it up other than a gut feeling..

Perhaps what you need is a laxative. Ron Paul was hardly thrust upon the scene by some secret powers to deceive the public. He was thrust upon the scene by over 100,000 online activist. We publish articles and link to video of his words and deeds and try everything we can to keep him in the public eye against the will of the establishment machine. We caucus, we show up for straw polls, we carry signs heck we hang them from bridges.

We realize that Ron Paul is perhaps the only candidate with the record and the go it alone if needed backbone left. We are many who never voted because we had only the lesser of two evils to vote for. This is our time and it is the time of Ron Paul. Not because of some mysterious force propelling him into the spotlight but for the efforts of the Ron Paul online army of warm body patriots who see the twilight's last gleaming and want to pull this nation from the precipice over which we find ourselves in this terrible time.

reply to post by Navieko


The Obama supporters used to talk like you. Some still do. Keep putting your faith in man. I do know what will happen to you and you will soon find out.

Originally posted by vkey08
the following is my personal opinion, I have ZERO facts to back it up other than a gut feeling..

Now that that is out of the way so I don't have people screaming at me to put out facts...or screaming facts back at me (don't you just hate that) I like a lot of what Dr Paul has to say, and I applaud his voting record, however... It's very odd to me, that this person who has run many times before, even so far as the libertarian candiate for president, is suddenly thrust upon us as a savior from all that ills us. I will repeat that statement again for those who just wanna pick me apart.

I have a very bad feeling in my gut when someone is thrust out of nowhere as the savior for all that ills me. (I seem to remember the EXACT same arguments being made for Obama, word for word) It's just something to think about, forget the voting record, it's easy to sit in a place and just vote no on everything, It's quite another to be able to get up and lead a country out of the worst cycle in it's history, again, wasn't Obama supposed to do all that according to the non-mainstream at the time?

Just had to get that in because it seems no matter how many times I say it, it is ignored by everyone around me. If someone is propped up to be your savior, shouldn't we be a little wary after all the claims before?

^^this
I agree with you. RP's words are very seductive. People always forget the past and say things are different this time and this has never happened before. Then they get raped again.

I like what I'm reading other than those calling me "paranoid". Calling anyone paranoid on this website just seems rather erroneous to me.

Lets get a few things straight for the people throwing accusations at me that I bothered to read. I don't support the voting of any other candidate in the system, if there is going to be one person to vote for it's Ron Paul. I'm happy for anyone that is intelligent enough to see through the bull#, that Ron Paul is the best choice we have to VOTE for. I just want to raise the awareness as to what can happen folks.

I'm going to go ahead and contradict myself on the whole paranoia thing and just move on to how obvious the media with their "disdain" for Ron Paul and why it should be seen as suspicious:

It's like, "Ok we get it. The media hates Ron Paul." They make it so obvious that to me it either just signifies that those in control of the US media (which we already know think their viewers have the mental capacity of fourth grade students) think we're really really that stupid, or they're making it that blatantly obvious for another reason which I hope you already understand.

The powers that be are really smart. Their psyops programs are running on unfathomable levels, so to be a little suspicious about everything until you see the end result is quite healthy in my opinion.

This is a system, a controlled system you will be voting in. By god if you feel the need to vote knowing this regardless I TOTALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO SO. I am not saying "don't vote" no matter how truly pointless it is.

The voice of the people is behind Ron Paul, this I am quite certain of, however, THE BOTTOM LINE IS, if he is elected to office it is because HE WAS PLACED THERE. No "ifs", "ands" or "buts" about it you should know better.

Now lets look back at what I also mentioned. I'd like to hear some reasonable responses about who RP most likely running mate is and who do you think he would possibly appoint as cabinet members during his term in office?

The "gold standard" can and would be manipulated by powers outside our own government should RP get elected but hey the best would be to hope that it's a plan for the right direction and I'm just going to leave it at that.

reply to post by GenLo


If Ron Paul can't be trusted tell me who can you trust?. Who do you trust? If everything he is says is wrong. Tell me who tells you right? If the people who want to follow the law of the land and the principals are crazy. Then tell me what law should be introduced and what principals should be followed? THe NWO the Globalists the Goldman Sachs of the world? If they are so all knowing and able to be in charge. Why is the entire planet in such turmoil? While people are busy being negative about the only positive thing happening at this time. Tell me how is all your negative thoughts and actions bettering your life and those around you? Do you enjoy the fact that TPTB are in the process of opening the gates of hell? Do you believe if you go along to get along you will some how be missed. Deep inside your souls you know and that is why you live in denial of any thing happening even exists. Deny Deny hide inside your head where your existance can not fit.

OMFG Ron Paul is not running on the Free Energy Platform... WTF he is a Nazi put here in place by the CIA after WW2. The CIA gave the MSM its marching orders to belittle Ron Paul for the last thirty years. The middle class will see what appears to be an honest candidate that is non establishment. Ron Paul aka Hitlers Clone will then use his supreme nazi intelect to fool the Jewish Moneylenders into the Gold Standard. When the Sheeple of America find out the Gold is no longer in Fort Knox, Ron Paul will kill the Jews with his borrowed 1942 German saucer technology. The fourth Reich will be ushered in with the opening of a Worm hole to another dimension were Hitler Won. Hundreds of Thousands of Nazis will Flood through the Wormhole and come out in Alaska. There from Alaska Rand Paul will lead an Army against the Inferior Russian Slavs. Dont ask me for Facts or anything like that. This Great thread deserved a great response. I MEAN REALLY hes not running on the Free Energy Platform what a corrupt SOB.

We have gone over this many times, so shame on you for being so passé. Mixing truth with lies to make the truth look ridiculous is lame. So stop doing it. We have discernment and the facts are the facts no matter how you attempt to obfuscate the truth.

Originally posted by mpacc
OMFG Ron Paul is not running on the Free Energy Platform... WTF he is a Nazi put here in place by the CIA after WW2. The CIA gave the MSM its marching orders to belittle Ron Paul for the last thirty years. The middle class will see what appears to be an honest candidate that is non establishment. Ron Paul aka Hitlers Clone will then use his supreme nazi intelect to fool the Jewish Moneylenders into the Gold Standard. When the Sheeple of America find out the Gold is no longer in Fort Knox, Ron Paul will kill the Jews with his borrowed 1942 German saucer technology. The fourth Reich will be ushered in with the opening of a Worm hole to another dimension were Hitler Won. Hundreds of Thousands of Nazis will Flood through the Wormhole and come out in Alaska. There from Alaska Rand Paul will lead an Army against the Inferior Russian Slavs. Dont ask me for Facts or anything like that. This Great thread deserved a great response. I MEAN REALLY hes not running on the Free Energy Platform what a corrupt SOB.

reply to post by vkey08


The pro lem with your theory is he isn't being propped up, he's being ignored and black-balled every chance they get. The only one propping him up are his loyal and devoted supporters. Ron Paul 2012

2008 the peace candidate was propped by the media like no one's business.
2012 the peace candidate is dropped by the media like no one's business.

Ron Paul wins a poll, and the poll is deemed irrelevant, cheated, or nothing news-worthy.
Someone else wins a poll, and suddenly they are the new front-runner.

They say that "Ron Paul doesn't stand a chance at getting the nomination".
Yet, those same people work through blood, sweat, and tears trying to enforce this position.

They say that "Ron Paul's ideas are outlandish and way too fringe for the republican party".
Meanwhile, when an opponent decides to run on one of them, they're suddenly great ideas.

People often work day in and day out trying to find dirty laundry on Ron Paul or his record.
When they can't find anything, their objective then becomes attacking his supporters.

People often argue that a belief in Ron Paul is both dangerous and crazy.
They then go on to argue how the system is rigged, he'd make no difference if elected, they
aren't voting, they aren't supporting anyone, they won't name who they support due to fear of
criticism, or they go into wild conspiracies on how he's a plant while at the same time saying
he's too old to be president (because being too old wouldn't allow him to make any positive
changes, only negative changes).

I guess I am just delusional.

I know Ron Paul is a Reptillian but he still has my vote...

I personally like Ron Paul, I would absolutely vote for him out of any other candidates. But, I also do get a feeling that we are just being played. I also don't take his 30 year track record in politics as any indication of his standings or truthfulness. He could very easily be duping all of us. If he is part of the conspiracy to take over the world, and those who desire control over all dominions of this planet have truly been working at it for thousands of years, then 30 years of a fixed political career in Ron Paul's case is no time at all compared to the time they've already spent. Just my 2 cents. It makes complete sense in my head when I think about it, I'm just not the greatest at putting my thoughts into words. ^_^

I've said it once before in a different thread I'll say it again...

Nothing is going to change with an election! You people seem to forget what has just happened with our current President. NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE. Except your physical appearance, that will change dramatically once the police have their way with you.

I believe were in a process this very moment where the government is figuring out who exactly is on their side. The people who oppose them will most likely be thrown in jail or killed. Its only a matter of time before they have half the nation in prison and the rest will be tagged and assigned their new life.

It all reality it is the peoples fault for letting it come this far.

Accept it or ...

If people want Paul to get the nomination, they have to persuade Dems and Ideps. to switch their party for the primary so they can vote for him in the primary. Repubs don't allow other parties to vote in their primary. After, they can switch back. Paul won't get the nominee just by Repubs.

theres no danger cant you see threw all teh non sense.. so lets stay the way we are. let the puppets keep changing laws. son more rights will be taken away. more bankers frauding the people

reply to post by GenLo


Of all the candidates the cat dragged in, Ron Paul appears to be at the front although keep in mind he too will be brought off to some degree and there's not much he can do about it.

If Ron Paul does'nt get in, I can see Obama re-elected but I have a gut feeling he won't survive his term or another puppet will get in and nothing changes or it just get's worse.

Ron Paul may not be the best for foreign affairs but he would be good for America. All I see of the others is just a bunch of idiots that want their 5 minutes fame and the $$$ that come with the job, but in all seriousness, they are absolutely no match up against world leaders like Netanyahu, Putin or Hu Jintao. Then again, what does it take for an inexperienced idiot with just shaking these leader's hands, a 2 minute photo shoot and a couple of signatures? Anyone can do that!

Originally posted by GenLo
Ron Paul is black balled by the media.

People love an "underdog". psyops tactics, imo..