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Demons are our friends. Here's how I know and why I say that.

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posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 04:21 PM
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I vehemently disagree with the premise of the OP.

I have heard first hand of an individual's encounter with a demon and they are NOT friends of man, not at all.

What a stupid thing to suggest to people.

Funny how whenever we start getting close to God-realization here, how such things start popping up as if on schedule.. i find that odd.

demon friends? no thanks.

Edit: this ought to be in Religion, Faith, And Theology. It doesn't belong here in this forum imho.



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posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 04:46 PM
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I don't really know how to answer this diplomatically. If anything I say comes across as harsh then I apologise up front. This is VERY serious.

YOU ARE BEING COMPLETELY FOOLED !!!!

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, before you go any further - test the spirit. If you test it, you will find out if it is harmful or peaceful. This is very important !

You use the words "tortured" and "suffering" and "evil" etc. etc.
THIS SHOULD BE A CLEAR SIGN THAT THIS ENTITY ISN'T YOUR FRIEND !

As suggested by a previous poster - read the book of psalms from the Holy Bible OUT LOUD !!!!!!!
(It doesn't matter if you believe in Jesus or not for yourself) Demons DO BELIEVE IN JESUS, and they know WHO HE IS. Read the psalms and see what happens around you (or to you). Demons CAN"T HANDLE hearing GOD praised.

Now - IT WILL GO RANK ! (but be careful because it may try to harm you !!!!) If it reacts negatively to the Holy Bible - you know for sure that it is an unfriendly demon.
This will show you if it wants to be your "friend" or not.

Now, from my perspective (being a Christian) I can tell you now (if you choose to listen) that it is a demon and it is lying to you. ALL demons lie. The Bible says that their native language is lies (specifically satan, as he is their leader). They DO NOT want to be your friend. They want you to die. The Bible says that satan is a murderer. BUT THE BIBLE ALSO SAYS THAT SATAN CAN AND DOES APPEAR LIKE AN ANGEL OF LIGHT. Now I doubt that you are that important that satan himself is bothering you (no offence intended) - but he has many minions who do those jobs for him. It is deceiving you.

If it was an angel, it would look like a real person (in the flesh). ALL angel visitations (not visions) mentioned in the Bible were by beings that looked just like men. Some even ate dinner with people, spoke with people etc.

Since it is only an image/ethereal, then it is an evil spirit - NOT an angel.

NOW I AM NOT TRYING TO PREACH TO YOU, OR MAKE YOU BELIEVE IN GOD, BUT IF YOU TEST THE SPIRIT BY READING PRAISES TO GOD (you have got nothing to lose by doing this) AND IT REACTS BADLY, THEN CONSIDER THAT, AND THE POWER IN THE WORD OF GOD. If all demons are evil (as the Bible teaches) and it reacts badly to hearing the word of GOD - then that must make GOD all together good (demons hate righteousness), since good and evil cannot exist together. (they are like similar poles on a magnet)

Don't let this thing control your life any longer. Once you realise for certain that IT IS NOT YOUR FRIEND, then you need to take the appropriate steps to GET IT OUT OF YOUR LIFE !. What is more important ? This entity or your relationship with your girlfriend ?

Don't let it take your soul. You are made for more than that !



posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 05:04 PM
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Just to let you know, OP - I myself have had 5 (five) demonic encounters.

1. I was physically attacked while I was sleeping.
2. Had one come into my living room and 'verbally' threaten me.
3. Had one "crawling" around in my roof cavity making very disturbing noises.
4. Had some try to enter my house through the roof while I was typing up my testimony for my Baptism.
5. Had one trying to "steal" my words from my mouth as I prayed for a friend.

Be Blessed.



posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 05:25 PM
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What I am basically saying is that angels and demons are manifestations of the same thing and the way it manifests itself to you depends on your state of mind.


i would agree with this to an extent...

they are both entities of darkness and light, or even lower and higher vibrations...

but remember the dark can not shine in the light... If you allow yourself to be dark or deal in lower vibrational energies then you will attract similar people/entities...

heres a good tip though...

12Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.




posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 05:25 PM
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Have you contacted an exorcist or the like...there are many "spiritual" healers that may be able to help....seriously if you believe that you are "infected"...then you must search these people out to help you.

My question is "what is the incidence that infected you"?? You obviously have an unresolved issue...before you can move on into a higher vibration...What is it?????



posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 05:47 PM
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OP probably lost a lot of points with members on this one.

When anyone is as vehement as you are about these experiences you are completely clouded in keeping a functional base in reality.

This isn't my skepticism, its my advice. Eventually you are going to be willing to take a leap of faith that is based on the trust in the experiences over any rational suspicion. You will trust more in your altered states of consciousness than in a focused wakeful state. Worst part is that you will believe you are prepared for such a leap and take it, unconditionally and unknowingly. Just remember, you can die, and if that isn't an issue for you, then you are already delusional. - and no I'm not talking about suicide.

I find it interesting that people can be so intrigued by the extra-dimensional, the spiritual and alternate realms of existence, and not have that same fascination for the psychological and biochemical relativism.




So please refrain from debunking attempts because when something is real that means it can't be debunked anyway.


That is what you wrote in your encounter with E.T life thread. That circular logic means you are willingly persuaded, and are unconcerned with possibility that you can be deceived.



posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 06:25 PM
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I see a lot of polarity-based thinking here. Not everything is clearly defined black and white, good and evil.

Smith I'd suggest balancing your two entities with each other and hold them both within you. Find a symbiosis, a balance. Without evil we wouldn't have good. Reject one and you reject the other. Find a form of good that's good for both of them and you'll have their support.

I love my angels AND my demons. They're mischievous little devils sometimes but not without a purpose. Fun transcends both sides of the duality.



posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 06:38 PM
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I truly believe that everything is perception. The OP reminds me of a great scene from Jacob's Ladder concerning a quote from Meister Eckhart: Jacob's Ladder- If your frightened of dying...

"The only thing that burns in hell, Is the part of you that won't let go of your life. Your memories, your attachments, They burn 'em all away. But they're not punishing you he said,... They're freeing your soul."

"If your frightened of dying, and your holding on. You'll see devils tearing your life away. If you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels,... Freeing you from the earth."

Much Love.
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posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 06:41 PM
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To play devil's advocate (no pun intended) and to take a skeptics approach, I have yet to see anyone suggest that the OP could very well be suffering from some form of paranoid delusion brought on by some form of psychosis.


Psychosis

Psychosis is defined as an abnormality of thoughts (content) or thinking (process). Psychosis is not a diagnosis in itself but a type of psychiatric symptom that occurs in a variety of diagnoses, including schizophrenia and bipolar disorder.

Delusions

Delusions are ideas or thoughts about the world that are not based in reality. Delusions may be present in any of the following forms:

* Paranoid delusion: Thinking that people or other beings are trying to hurt you or that organized systems out in the world are focused on harming you. Paranoid delusions are the most common type.

* Grandiose and religious delusions: Thinking that one has super or supernatural powers and/or control over others; thinking one is a famous religious figure or closely connected to deities or other religious phenomenon.


Understanding Psychosis, Hallucinations, and Delusions
By CANDIDA FINK, MD



posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 06:43 PM
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Originally posted by NowanKenubi

For some reason, the OP found it easier to surrender to the demon rather than God. I find that odd.


Surrendering to God was the way I surrendered to the "demon". There is nothing separate from God. If I surrendered to a kitten, I would technically be surrendering to God.


But now, we see the message that "evil can be good" pretty much everywhere... I guess it can be easy to fall prey to such expositions for some. Or to all, to some degrees.


I'm not saying that evil is good. I'm saying both terms are subjective. What is your view on alligators? or mosquitoes? Alligators hide out in a swamp day in and day out waiting on the right moment to attack and devour something. Mosquitoes suck blood and cause humans plenty of grief. Would you call them evil? I would say it is all part of the balance.

There is a realm that is closer to God. In that realm exists very powerful beings. God is unity. Being closer to him is to become more unified. From my experience, even good and evil are unified. Exccccept they are subjective. That's important to consider because when you are face to face with a being who is unified, your experience of it as good or evil is still also subjective.

An angel is a being of unity. A demon is a being of unity. That means, there is no difference. There is no demon. There is no angel. They are one. If you encounter a demon it is because you are perceiving it to be a demon. The very same thing you are perceiving as a demon can be perceived of as an angel.



posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 06:43 PM
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He will only be your friend until you try and get away,,,
...it's like one of those kids grass things that you slip easily on your finger but tighten up when you try and remove it.

Treat the demon like a large intelligent dog ... command it to go and it must, you are soveriegn...
...order it to go in the name of the Father Son and Spirit and it must leave you...
...it will not go without protest and it might feel bad for a while but it must obey you.



posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 07:01 PM
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As far as I know they are not just archetypes. Person I know saw one come up out of a shadow, the top of it's head was jagged like Bart Simpson, and it had red eyes. It wanted to be his "friend", but he was freaked out, could hardly believe what he was seeing, and invoked Jesus Christ by singing the children's son "Jesus Loves Me" in response to which it started screeming as if in pain and then left. Took one other run at him after that, he rebuked it, and no more any more. Paradoxically, it increased his faith in the divine authority and kingship of Jesus Christ. He was stone cold sober, and is not lying about the experience. I don't think it was a psychosis, he was just in a rather difficult and challenging point in his life, and was not very "strong" at the time. Now he's just fine, but assured me that there is such a thing as demons and that they are not friends although that is their objective, to be "let in" and recieved. He said it was very close and he almost let it "come in", but feels he did the right thing by making it leave him alone.

That said we don't want to be putting too much energy into such things, or beliefs, as we can generate them with those beliefs, or "send out invitations" which is what this thread signifies to me.

But they are not "good angels", that's their first lie, that they are "friends" or are of God and all that is good and righteous.

Kinda freaky to think that such things might actually exist.. but don't get confused and make them friends or tell other people to seek them out and befriend them, that's the sad part here with this thread.

I am very disappointed with the op and what it's signalling. Then again, when we're right over the target, and are working to grow spiritually into the light and into God, such things are to be expected I guess. Too bad.

Time to leave this kind of thing behind, imo.


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posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by juveous
OP probably lost a lot of points with members on this one.


I was never on ATS for points. I knew this idea would be wholly rejected. The point is presenting it to you as a possibility so when the makers of form come back (if they do), you might know what to expect.

I think the demonic agenda and the angelic agenda is the same, they just have different way of going about getting there. Everyone in existence wants to become more like God, even if they aren't strong enough to admit it yet. God is a mystery, so the way to him isn't cut and dry either.

As I said in my other thread, defining God is pointless as it will never be an accurate definition. But, we can come close to a definition. For the sake of this thread and making sense here, I'm going to define God as unity.

Here in unity, good and bad are one. Good and bad are subjective. One man's trash is another man's treasure. One man's demon is another man's angel.

The Gods of the past are our creators of our form. Hence, "Let US make man in OUR image". They are the archetypes. If you saw one, you would either call it an angel or a demon. It is based entirely on your perception of it.



posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by troubleshooter
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He will only be your friend until you try and get away,,,
...it's like one of those kids grass things that you slip easily on your finger but tighten up when you try and remove it.

Treat the demon like a large intelligent dog ... command it to go and it must, you are soveriegn...
...order it to go in the name of the Father Son and Spirit and it must leave you...
...it will not go without protest and it might feel bad for a while but it must obey you.



You don't think I tried that? I tried telling it to go away. It doesn't obey. It commands. It is powerful. There's no telling it to go away. All you can do is accept it. I did, and now it has no power over me. You would think it would be the other way around. Its not. I accepted it, and what was negative became positive. Resistance was futile.

Accepting it, I learned that it was only ever a demon because I feared it. Accepting it turned my perception of it into an angel. I flipped the coin to the other side. Have no fear.



posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by Akragon
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What I am basically saying is that angels and demons are manifestations of the same thing and the way it manifests itself to you depends on your state of mind.


i would agree with this to an extent...

they are both entities of darkness and light, or even lower and higher vibrations...

but remember the dark can not shine in the light... If you allow yourself to be dark or deal in lower vibrational energies then you will attract similar people/entities...

heres a good tip though...

12Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.



The thing is, I'm not allowing evil into my life and accepting a demon into my life. Instead, I am allowing good into my life and turning the demon into an angel.



posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 07:39 PM
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I also have another friend, a neighbor of mine, who's slightly mentally handicapped who saw an angel, and it said hello, required nothing of him, but he asked if he could shake his/her hand, and the angel replied that that wasn't allowed. it was a totally different phenomenon. The demons WANT something, they want to possess, to own, and to separate man from God, theirs is a jealous spirit, not a benevolent loving one.

I wish this subject didn't come up at this time, the timing is horrible, given the great strides everyone seemed to be making.

And if there's a universal controversy, it involves the issue of spiritual authority, and either obediance to that authority, or rebellion against it. Perhaps there are entities which are doomed to have no purpose but to try to distract and separate man from God.



posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 08:00 PM
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Out of fairness and for balance I feel compelled to post this


The Tibetan Book of the Dead

The Tibetan Book of the Dead, whose actual title is "The Great Liberation upon Hearing in the Intermediate State" or "Bardo Thodol", is traditionally believed to be the work of the legendary Padma Sambhava in the 8th century A.D. The book acts as a guide for the dead during the state that intervenes death and the next rebirth. He is considered to be one of the first persons to bring Buddhism to Tibet. The Bardo Thodol is a guide that is read aloud to the dead while they are in the state between death and reincarnation in order for them to recognize the nature of their mind and attain liberation from the cycle of rebirth.

The Bardo Thodol teaches that once awareness is freed from the body, it creates its own reality as one would experience in a dream. This dream occurs in various phases (bardos) in ways both wonderful and terrifying. Overwhelming peaceful and wrathful visions and deities appear. Since the deceased's awareness is in confusion of no longer being connected to a physical body, it needs help and guidance in order that enlightenment and liberation occurs. The Bardo Thodol teaches how we can attain Nirvana by recognizing the heavenly realms instead of entering into the lower realms where the cycle of birth and rebirth continue.

The following is a description of the bardo realms that one travels through after death.

The First Bardo

The first bardo comes at the very moment of death, when there dawns the Clear Light of the Ultimate Reality. This is the very content and substance of the state of liberation, if only the soul can recognize it and act in a way to remain in that state. The instructions intended to be read at the moment of the person's death are designed to help him do this. He is told, first of all, to embrace this supreme experience not in a selfish and egoistic way but rather with love and compassion for all sentient beings. This will aid him in the second step, which is to realize that his own mind and self is identical with the Clear Light, implying that he himself IS the Ultimate Reality, "the All-good Buddha", transcending time, eternity, and all creation. If he can recognize this while in this supreme state at the moment of death, he will attain liberation-that is, he will remain in the Clear Light forever. This condition is called the "Dharmakaya", the highest spiritual body of the Buddha.

Most souls, however, will fail to do this. They will be pulled down by the weight of their karma into the second stage of the first bardo, called the Secondary Clear Light seen immediately after death.At this point, there are separate instructions to be read according to the spiritual condition of the person while in life. For an individual advanced in meditation and other spiritual practices, there is repeated over and over the same instructions as at the moment of death, enjoining him to recognize himself as the Dharmakaya.For a person who was still at a student-level on the spiritual path, there is the injunction for him to meditate on his "tutelary deity", that is, the particular god for whom he performed devotional practices while alive. Finally,"if the deceased be of the common folk", unpracticed in any spiritual disciplines, the instruction is to "meditate upon the Great Compassionate Lord", which is to say an "Avatar" worshipped by the multitude, equivalent to Jesus as conceived by the average Christian.

The Second Bardo

If the soul is still not liberated at this stage, it will descend into the second bardo, which is said to last for two weeks. The second bardo is also divided into two parts; in the first, the soul of the deceased encounters what are referred to as "the Peaceful Deities."On each of the seven days, a particular Buddha-being will appear in radiance and glory, with a bevy of angelic attendants. At the same time, on each day in turn there will shine a light from one of the six worlds of the Buddhist universe, called"Lokas" (the basic meaning is "place";our English words "location" and "locale" are derived from the same Sanskrit root).

On the first day of the second bardo, there appears to the soul the divine Father-Mother - that is, the supreme deity of the universe, transcending all dualities, including the division into sexes. The next step in the destiny of the soul is determined by his reaction to this God. If his life on Earth was well lived, he will now be in a state of purity and grace, and he will enter into the joy of the God and attain liberation. If on the other hand he has lived an ignoble and impious life, the effects of his bad karma will cause the intense radiant presence of the God to strike fear and terror in his heart, and he will be drawn instead to the softer light of the Deva-Loka, which has dawned along with this deity. This is still a fairly attractive fate, for the Devas are the Gods (or angels), and their Loka is equivalent to the Christian heaven; however, the Buddhist teaching is that even heaven is not the highest spiritual objective, because it is still only a temporary state in the manifest universe. Liberation is believed to be the only final and permanent resting-place for the soul, an un-manifest state beyond all existence.

On the second day, there appears the second-highest God in the Buddhist pantheon - in fact, he is actually the Second Person in the literal Buddhist Holy Trinity. At the same time, there dawns a smoky light from hell; and here we note that, just as the Buddhist heaven is not a permanent, eternal state, neither is its hell. Even the most wretched souls will eventually work their way out of even the deepest pit of hell, just as even the highest and purest souls will eventually lose their footing in heaven and descend again into the cycle of death and rebirth. Liberation is the only way out.

Once again, if the soul responds to the "dazzling white light"of the second God with the joy of a pure heart, he will be liberated thereby; but if he specifically reacts with ANGER from having indulged in this vice on Earth, he will recoil from the light in fear and be drawn into hell.

The pattern is repeated on the third day; this time it is the fault if egotism that will cause the soul to react to the God with fear, and he will be drawn to the human world, where his next incarnation will thereby take place. On the fourth day dawns the God of Eternal Life; if the soul has a negative reaction to him because of miserliness and attachment, he will be drawn toward rebirth in the Preta-Loka, a world of"hungry ghosts"who have huge stomachs and throats the size of pinholes, and so they wander about in a constant state of unsatisfied ravenous desire. On the fifth day comes God in the form of an Almighty Conqueror; this time it's jealousy that will unseat the soul, and he will be born into the Asura-Loka, a world of fierce warrior-deities (or demons). On the sixth day all the deities return and dawn together, along with the lights from all six Lokas. On the seventh day there appear the Knowledge-Holding Deities, who are more fierce and demonic-looking than those that have previously dawned;and in fact they are sort of a transitional element to the next stage of the second bardo, where the soul encounters the wrathful deities. Meanwhile, if because of stupidity the soul cannot face the Knowledge-Holding Deities, he is drawn toward the Brute-Loka - that is, he will be reborn on Earth as an animal.

In the second week of the second bardo, the soul meets seven legions of Wrathful Deities: hideous, terrifying demons who advance upon him with flame and sword, drinking blood from human skulls, threatening to wreak unmerciful torture upon him, to maim, disembowel, decapitate and slay him.The natural tendency, of course, is for the soul to attempt to flee from these beings in stark, screaming, blood-curdled terror;but if he does, all is lost. The instructions at this stage of the Bardo are for the soul to have no fear, but rather to recognize that the Wrathful Deities are really the Peaceful Deities in disguise, their dark side manifesting as a result of his own evil karma. The soul is told to calmly face each demon in turn and visualize it as the deity it truly is, or else as his own tutelary deity; if he can do this, he will merge with the being and attain the second degree of Liberation, that lesser aspect of it which is now the best he can hope for here in the second bardo.

Furthermore, he is told to awaken to the fact that all these fearsome creatures are not real, but are merely illusions emanating from his own mind. If he can recognize this, they will vanish and he will be liberated.If he can't, he eventually wanders down to the third bardo.

The Third Bardo

In the third bardo the soul encounters the Lord of Death, a fearsome demonic deity who appears in smoke and fire, and subjects the soul to a Judgment. If the dead person protests that he has done no evil, the Lord of Death holds up before him the Mirror of Karma, "wherein every good and evil act is vividly reflected." Now demons approach and begin to inflict torments and punishments upon the soul for his evil deeds. The instructions in the Bardo Thodol are for him to attempt to recognize the Voidness of all these beings, including the Lord of Death himself; the dead person is told that this entire scene unfolding around him is a projection from his own mind. Even here he can attain liberation by recognizing this.

The soul who is still not liberated after the Judgment will now be drawn remorselessly toward rebirth.

The lights of the six Lokas will dawn again; into one of these worlds the soul must be born, and the light of the one he is destined for will shine more brightly than the others.The soul is still experiencing the frightening apparitions and sufferings of the third bardo, and he feels that he will do anything to escape from this condition. He will seek shelter in what appear to be caves or hiding-places, but which are actually the entrances to wombs. He is warned of this by the text of the Bardo Thodol, and urged not to enter them, but to meditate upon the Clear Light instead; for it is still possible for him to achieve the third degree of liberation and avoid rebirth.

Finally there comes a point where it is no longer possible to attain liberation, and after this the soul is given instructions on how to choose the best womb for a favorable incarnation. The basic method is non-attachment:to try to rise above both attraction to worldly pleasures and repulsion from worldly ills.

The final words of the Bardo Thodol are: "Let virtue and goodness be perfected in every way."

source: www.near-death.com...


Perhaps the OP is just working out one of these bardos, nothing more.

But saying "demons are our friends"..? That's not helpful I don't think.


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posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 08:06 PM
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Aleister Crowley befriended a demon named 'Lam.' His demonic friend looks a heck of a lot like an extraterrestrial grey. Any connection to your op? I don't know, I'm just saying.



posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by NewAgeMan
I also have another friend, a neighbor of mine, who's slightly mentally handicapped who saw an angel, and it said hello, required nothing of him, but he asked if he could shake his/her hand, and the angel replied that that wasn't allowed. it was a totally different phenomenon. The demons WANT something, they want to possess, to own, and to separate man from God, theirs is a jealous spirit, not a benevolent loving one.

I wish this subject didn't come up at this time, the timing is horrible, given the great strides everyone seemed to be making.

And if there's a universal controversy, it involves the issue of spiritual authority, and either obediance to that authority, or rebellion against it. Perhaps there are entities which are doomed to have no purpose but to try to distract and separate man from God.


I agree that demons are malevolent. I know they just want to control for their own purposes. But you can't fight a demon with hate. I tried, it doesn't work. All I can do is accept it. Accepting it, I may not be its friend, but it is mine. Even accepting it won't necessarily make it go away. It waits for a time when I am weak. But I am not strengthening it by accepting it. I am disempowering it. It wants me to deny it. It wants me to hate it. It wants me to turn away from it. I'm tired of running, and I'm tired of fighting. I'm going to take a different approach. I'm going to do something no one would dare to do. I'm going to use a new tactic based on a new idea. So I did. And it worked. And I learned. I learned that a demon is one side of a coin. To flip the coin takes acceptance. I flipped the coin. On the other side was the same entity but in a different form. One thing I noticed about that entity ever since I encountered it was its ability to shapeshift. It was always a malevolent form. I was always scared of it. Today was different. Today the form changed into something that didn't scare me.

I think that was the purpose of the possession in the first place. I think the purpose was for me to realize what I realized. Don't you know these beings used to walk among us? Accounts of their presence have been documented throughout history by various civilizations. Why do you think they left? Perhaps somewhere along the line we got out of line. We rebelled. So they left us alone. Now they're waiting. They won't show until we're ready. The only reason they showed up to me was because I was ready. I know that. Now they're waiting on us all to be ready. Their waiting on us to not be scared of them. Believe me, they are fearsome. But what in this universe isn't fearsome? (besides kittens). All jokes aside; fearsomeness is subjective. The cat fears the dog, but the dog fears us. I fear lions. But we get respect when we aren't scared. They won't come until we're ready. To be ready, we can't be scared. I think that's what the possession was about. It was about the fearsome ones giving me an opportunity to become familiar with them so that I could release my fear of them. Not that they cared whether or not I was fearful. They don't care, but the angels do. Two sides of the same coin. One side wants to reveal themselves to us while the other side wants us to be ignorant. But you can't have angels without demons. So in order to be with angels, you gotta be ready to be with demons. You see? That's what the possession was about from the angelic perspective. To the demons, it was just an opportunity to inflict suffering. To the angel, it was an opportunity to become familiar.



posted on Nov, 23 2011 @ 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by Sahabi
Aleister Crowley befriended a demon named 'Lam.' His demonic friend looks a heck of a lot like an extraterrestrial grey. Any connection to your op? I don't know, I'm just saying.


Why do you say Lam was a demon? I did a little research, and I can't find out why this Crowley guy is significant or why he is 'bad'. So why would it be bad if Crowley and I saw the same entity?



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