Troubling evidence : World War 3 imminent

I don't usually post in skunk works but I am compelled to share this to fellow ATSers.

After WW2, economies floorished. There were jobs and buying power was high. Obviously, post war reconstructions efforts and the cold war helped a great deal in this boom. People were spending a great deal, feeding banks and businesses.

Then the bubble broke in the 70/80s, slow growth, higher unemployment and less revenues for the elite.
So they came up with the idea of consumer credit in the 80/90s.

Credit of course restarted the economy. People, still driven by the propaganda of consumerism, indebted themselves. Banks and corporations knew this bubble was meant to burst sooner or later, but they continued their practice of giving credit, certainly knowing they were too powerful, too big to fail.

The housing crisis set the next stage: Governments and people not only have spent too much but now owe a great deal of debt.
Powerless, the government's only option is to empoverish their citizen through austerity measures and have them pay the banks with more and more taxes.

What's next?
Right now in Greece a new law has passed. Income tax tied to electricity bill. You don't pay your debt, you go cold. This is an idea of what is to come for the rest of us: Slavery. Pay or die.
Those thieves knew since the beginning that money is not an infinite commodity, there has to be a time before the ceiling is reached.

However

The elite didn't expect the revolutions happening everywhere from egypt to wall street. Their worst nightmare is people power. They now realize their grand scheme has failed and they won't be able to impose their dictature on us. The Internet (among other things) opened the sheeple's eyes.

Now their only real option is to start WW3 and restart the vicious circle of destruction, construction, consumerism, debt, slavery.
If you remember who funded the Nazis and allies alike. Banks and in some cases they funded both. Also WW2 started after a short time of hyperinflation in Germany, lot of market speculation which went bad in 1929.

As history repeats itself, I feel that we are on the brink of WW3 and sincerely hope time will prove me wrong.

i don't think nuclear war in the middle east is good for the economy. it would literally be the end of the world as you know it.

WW3 has been goin on for the last 10 years. A world war is classified as one in which more than 3 countries are involved. But as to your op, WW2 was a different animal! COMPLETELY. As was vietnam, even you could say the current wars going on. The next BIG war will be hell like no other when nukes are being arbitraily being launched with reckless abandon. IMO
Here is from wiki: World wars span multiple countries on multiple continents, with battles fought in multiple theaters, and last for multiple years. The term has usually been applied to two conflicts of unprecedented scale that occurred during the 20th century, World War I (1914–1918) and World War II (1939–1945), although in retrospect a number of earlier conflicts may be regarded as "world wars". The other most common usage of the term is in the context of World War III, a phrase usually used to describe any hypothetical future global conflict

Some great points and I have to agree.

Another reason behind a new world war; here in Britain we have almost a whole generation for youth unemployed and forgotten. A world war (in ther eyes) would give these lost few a "purpose" and a use.

Sad times to come for the young working class.

S&F for insight.
ALS

Man, I sure hope not.

"These things gotta happen every five years or so, ten years. Helps to get rid of the bad blood. .."

quote from the godfather

Different times, maybe 30-50 years?

It's not gonna be pretty.

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Wernt you one of those preaching hard against OWS?

reply to post by ShogunAssassins


No, not me I support OWS.

You must have me mixed up with someone else.

ALS

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There was also a lot of social unrest right before WWII.

Spain had a revolution (and civil war) that started in 1936. This was no typical example of social unrest, real change was taking place. 'The people', instead of protesting and occupying wall street, took over the running of their own lives, they seized power away from the state. The workers took control of their own workplaces, and production rose 20%. They re-built their infrastructures. Public transportation was repaired, and put back into operation, free too ride for all.

The common man therefore had the impression that not only was he the owner of the abandoned businesses, but also of the municipal or private institutions that were abandoned or paralyzed, Victor Alba, The Collectivized Worker, p. 73.

Of all possible alternatives, they chose the one that most faithfully reflected their desires and which appeared to respond to their interests: they took charge. In the street there were thousands of armed workers. As for the workplace, they controlled the factories. Without arms, this would not have been possible. With arms alone, nothing would have changed. The workers, without needing instructions from anyone, understood that these two things were related Victor Alba, The Collectivized Worker, p. 65).

People from all over the world were going to Spain to either help with the fight against fascism, or help the socialist revolution. Including nurses and doctors from the USA.

WWII most definitely changed the worlds political climate. It devastated the power of the people, sorry for the cliche but its true. Before WWII the people were far more political and aware. Workers were far more organized.
Socialism was socialism, the workers ownership and control of their labour and the means of production, not what it's been twisted to mean now. Capitalism was the 'private ownership of the means of production', not 'free-markets', and other nonsense it's now claimed to be. The 'cold war' was a propaganda war on the people. A way to convince the population to accept what they had been fighting against before, and supposedly during, WWII, fascism (corporate and government/state militaristic, authoritarian control of labour and the economy).

Good explanation.

S&F

It is all happening like my grandma described growing up in Germany...I fear you are all too correct in your speculation. Great post S+F

I honestly don't think there will be a WWIII, I think the world is beyond that now, but we can expect to see lots more smaller conflicts like in the middle east.

Even if there was to be one though, a big part of me says it won't involve nuclear weapons, or at least not in the way people seem to think (for example, Russia lobs a few nukes at the USA, the USA lobs a few at China etc).

Fingers will no doubt be on the triggers, but I think it's more likely if any form of nuclear devices are to be used it will be on the front lines and not aimed at populations.

Wishful thinking? Probably.

S&F
I hope that you are wrong....I fear that you are right.
Let us hope mankind will use more wisdom this time around.
A world war this time would mean that history may not be able to repeat itself again.
One would think we would have learned after looking into the past.
DH

Then there's that one book about exactly how it comes about....yes, what the op said....Well posted, there!

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I'm so glad that you started this thread. Let's hope that the new T & C rules for forums like UFOs & Skunk Works will be adhered to by all & sundry.

Call it WWIII, Armageddon, or whatever, the world has been building up to something for a very long time- especially for the last century. I'm one of those odd, old-fashioned eccentrics with a knowledge of history & Old French, so, I'm not trying to derail your thread with what I'm about to say. This is Skunk Works, so I think I might have some room.

The 16th century French prophet Nostradamus predicted 3 World Wars. There are no good translations commonly available for his work. I translated all of his Centuries on my own. I learned long ago that if you want something done right, do it yourself.

What I am about to say may surprise some. The hardest part of working with these prophecies is that they are jumbled up & not in order by any means- Nostradamus lived in fear of the Inquisition & did his best to obscure things in order to fool them.

For the third world war he gave astronomical dates & certain events to look for, which is the key to assembling the right events into the correct timeline. He tells of "a great scream to come out of Eastern Europe"- Kosovo; then of terrible wars beginning to ravage what was once the Persian Empire. (This Empire encompassed what is now Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan & Pakistan). After that, he describes a terrible conflict coming to what is now Libya. After all of these areas have come into conflagration, he says there shall begin the worst of the three world wars at what he calls Araxum's Border- which is the area along the borders of what is now Azerbaijan, Iraq & Iran. This war will eventually encompass all of the Asian continent.

What with all of the saber rattling coming from Iran & Israel, it takes little imagination these days to see what might happen if Nostradamus is correct.

I won't take any more of your time- there's a lot more to this but I should start a thread of my own for that. Just my two cents- thanks again.

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Originally posted by TheOracle
The Internet (among other things) opened the sheeple's eyes.

oVIs ARIES


S&F TheOracle. Good read

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My thoughts on WWIII:

Pentagon marketting strategies win again, in my opinion.
I give props to the marketting geniuses at the Pentagon.

World War III....

fact: Global = World.

fact: The "Global War On Terror" began more than 10 years ago.

World War Three has already started.

Have a good week,
ILikeStars

Originally posted by AllUrChips
WW3 has been goin on for the last 10 years.

yep.

Originally posted by ALOSTSOUL
Some great points and I have to agree.

Another reason behind a new world war; here in Britain we have almost a whole generation for youth unemployed and forgotten. A world war (in ther eyes) would give these lost few a "purpose" and a use.

Sad times to come for the young working class.

S&F for insight.
ALS

I think you are correct, and I think that is why the Obama administration wants to pass legislation requiring everyone to work for the government at some time or another. If you are unemployed, then you either go to war, work for civil government, or go to jail (where you will be forced to work). And there are people willing to allow this sort of stuff to happen because they love "society" so much and they think it would be good for the progress of society, yet most of those people never stopped to question what the purpose of a society should be and who it is supposed to benefit, so they are more than excited to enslave people for the benefit of society, meaning society (as it stands) is obviously not meant to benefit the individual or the whole. What does that leave?

If society is meant to benefit the majority, then who in their right mind would voluntarily sign up for it, knowing that sooner or later they will not be among the majority and they could get royally screwed by the majority. If it were meant for the minority, I dare so no one would sign up if they knew that.... So....

WWIII, if implemented, will be designed to rid the world of the undesirables, so you can expect such legislation to pass. In my opinion, class warfare is breaking out around the world to justify, in the minds of many, the mandatory service of all. After that legislation passes, you can expect to see WWIII.

The elites are making sure that rather than changing the screwed up mess we have or allowing the people who want no part of this planned society in the future a way out, that such people will be forced to participate or die (and even probably die while participating through the use of force). Once that is implemented they will begin their elimination of the undesirables through warfare and more legislation. Their plan is to cut-off any manner of retreat or reform, and then move in for the kill. They are kettling the masses, and the masses cannot see it because the elites are using a "sweeping curve corral" type method of blinding the masses to what is up ahead through class warfare and talking-points.

The fall of 2008 was harder and faster than the beginning of the Great Depression.

Crash Comparison - 1929 to 2008

Another world war, if it is overt, will not include nukes. There are too many trigger happy fringe elements with nukes that will happily squeeze if given any kind of reason.
With the propping of the US$ through the FIAT Reserve system, they can artificially corrupt the economy to the brink of total collapse without the average person even knowing it, which IMHO is what TPTB are doing right now.

Another thought though, is that we are currently in the third world war. An information war. That being said, the information is DISinformation and the war is on US, the common citizen. We are at war for our health, freedom and the ability to grow as individuals. The Chinese and the U.S. is currently waging such an info war and China has long been preparing for it...

Chinese InfoWar Strategy


We are currently being poisoned, starved, sold into bondage and blindfolded into perpetual debt each and every day we participate in the current system. The irony is that we are clamoring and fighting to 'Keep up with the Joneses', we are not resisting, we are fighting to be enslaved.

WWIII?...inevitable if not already in action.

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I have a feeling you might be right. I'm afraid its going to make our soldiers have to make a decision for what side they want to be on. Theres probably is going to be mass revolutions and economies crashing everywhere. You can just feel it coming...

What we'll need is a modern day Robin Hood. Taxing the poorest of poor to poverty is not how this species evolves, aaah but if you're the 1%.