Do not make and gift orgonite

I have been doing some research on orgonite. Orgonite is a substance that traps telluric energy inside a metal nonmetal composite. Orgone is a earth energy discovered by wilhem reich a medical doctor who lived in the 1940's who got his energy concentrating contraptions banned by the FDA. They are considered quack by the medical establishment. Orgonite was invented by a guy in the early 1970's who found out that instead of using metal sheets sandwiched between wool or linen sheets he could use polyester resin and metal scharf to create the orgone accumulator. I have made a terifying discovery that these orgonite pucks are discharging the earth and causing an imbalance in the weather patterns around the earth. not only that but the pucks are being charged with tremendous charges of both good and bad orgone. There is really no such thing as good or bad orgone just the spin of the orgone particle are different. How did I find this out? first off orgonite does not give off an aura. second I had a vision that in the future california became uninhabitable due to the orgone "gifts" exploding and causing the plant life to die off.

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That is some pretty heavy info. Can't say I have ever heard of it though. It is good to share dreams, might mean something to someone else.


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How about plagioclase feldspar....any thoughts on that?

Hmmm...come to think of it biotite is in that family too...jeez...nothings safe anymore!

Did you post flag and star the thread on this or just take the ball and run with it? I see so much thread plagiarism these days and it is really frustrating to me! I start threads and then watch as my links become threads within minutes!!!

You cant ever prove it, so you just suck it up and move on, but it is discouraging...

This thread would have been a nice addition to the ongoing one here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by antar
Did you post flag and star the thread on this or just take the ball and run with it? I see so much thread plagiarism these days and it is really frustrating to me! I start threads and then watch as my links become threads within minutes!!!

You cant ever prove it, so you just suck it up and move on, but it is discouraging...

This thread would have been a nice addition to the ongoing one here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I am just curious what your talking about here...no offense meant...but I don't see this thread and the one you linked having anything in common at all.

After scanning through the thread you linked...I can't find a post that you linked anything too.

Really I am just curious what your talking about.

Hmm, a Google on "Wilhem Reich" brings up some interesting results.

Sounds like he was a therapist who eventually degenerated into very "touchy feely" theraphy, as in a "hands on" approach while "helping" his patients.

His "orgone accumulator" was debunked by Einstein.

Maybe the orgone generator he made didn't like Einstein and refused to work..

Originally posted by antar
I see so much thread plagiarism these days

Er wot?

Seriously, threads, as such, are crap. Nobody has built (in years of ATS) a decent search engine here. And to have all info in one thread, means, the info will be harder to find, ergo, threads are obfuscatory, a priori. I have a thread somewhere "Truth is Buried at ATS, Anyone Digging?" which is resting nicely on the seabed somewhere. Meh, tinwiki would have been good, and it was killed, dead. Hmm, who was it that invented tinwiki? That was a great tool for truth. R.I.P.

Anyway OP, Wilhelm Reich seems like an interesting fellow with some nicely liberal views of human sexuality, but I am not convinced that "orgonite" really is a science. I have to call BS on this stuff until it at least reaches the "chemtrail" level of plausibility. I mean with chemtrails, a reasonable person can observe crop-dusting planes and reason "Hmm, yes, humans could similarly be dusted as with crops" ...That at least is plausible. But this orgone stuff, well, it just seems to be completely without basis in fact. I can point to crop duster airplane and theorize that yes, there are human-cropdusting planes as well. But what is the reality of orgone? Any truth to the technology?

We need a tinwiki page on orgone. Let's get moving on that. Or ten more threads, that'll work too.

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Agreed, I am the worlds worst at the search engines and have taken many hits by the mods for not using it properly... as for orgonite I tend to believe also that it would take a hell of alot more to cause any serious problems.

we do have bigger fish to fry and one of my greatest concerns are from fracking practices and what that is unleashing on the earth.

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Lol sounds like your reptilian overlords are really hurting
the etheric resistance is gonna get you!
BOO-YAH

aww can't chemtrail as much as you used to and can't get close to orgonite yourselves so scare everybody away and hope that solves your problems lol

the very fact that you are confusing orgone accumulators with orgone generators is quite telling

Back in the 1970's I had this friend and we were experiencing ufo sightings. She was Autistic but very smart in specific areas. She got into the Wilhelm Reich stuff and built a cloudbuster. I went with her to a hardware/home improvement type store, to purchase some long metal poles. Then she built it.
The ufos we were seeing were in a location away from her home, but after the backyard cloudbuster, aimed skyward, we saw ufos over her house. I don't know if this was a coincidence or.......not.

So I thought this would be an interesting experiment idea for anyone with the property, privacy, funds and resources, to see if Reich tech attracts ufos.

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OMG, is this the stuff that Sherry Shriner makes her orgone weapons out of(these take down UFO's)

I wonder if so many people have been copying her plans, perhaps this is why the earth is out of balance at the moment!, god what can we do too help?

What likelyhood is there that we can lay this at Sherry's door? Seriously, expand upon your thread, this could be massive, we need more of your thoughts on how we can stop this!.

Thanks for the info.

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then youve not seen my posts linking to instructions for making orgonite and chembusters [not reichs cloudbuster, which can be dangerous to the operator if misused or if DOR is not grounded in running water]

yup search sure is f up here

oh here is a link Goodbye Chemtrails, Hello Blue Skies! The Do-It-Yourself Kit for Sky Repair educate-yourself.org...

building one of these will improve the weather and counter weather manipulation by the MIC
by attracting Sylphs [air elementals] educate-yourself.org...


orgone warriors unite! we're almost there

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i hoped she grounded that cloudbuster properly
the UFO's you saw were probably sylphs see my previous post

if you build a chembuster [much safer] you'll see em over your house too
along with the occasional black helicopter

invest in a good camera

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if you build a chembuster [much safer] you'll see em over your house too
along with the occasional black helicopter

This tidbit I find most significant. At that time of the ufos and cloudbusting, we witnessed two Men In Black walk in front of her house staring at us, looking back at them from inside, through the main window. We ran out to see them closer, because they looked unusual, and there was no one.

Originally posted by noonebutme
Hmm, a Google on "Wilhem Reich" brings up some interesting results.

Sounds like he was a therapist who eventually degenerated into very "touchy feely" theraphy, as in a "hands on" approach while "helping" his patients.

His "orgone accumulator" was debunked by Einstein.

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lol you seem to have issues concerning sexuality IMO

and all his books, research and stuff was burned on some very big bonfires.

1956: Book burning

On June 5, 1956, as Reich was arranging his first appeal, two FDA officials traveled to Orgonon to supervise the destruction of Reich's accumulators. Most of them had been sold at that point, and another 50 were with Silvert in New York. Only three were at Orgonon. The FDA agents were not allowed to destroy them, only to supervise the destruction, so Reich's friends, and his son Peter, chopped them up with axes as the agents watched. On June 26, the agents returned to supervise the destruction of the promotional material, including some of his books. On July 9, the American Civil Liberties Union issued a press release criticizing the book burning, although coverage of the release was poor, and Reich ended up asking them not to help him because he was annoyed that they failed to criticize the destruction of the accumulators. In England, a letter of protest signed by A.S. Neill and Herbert Read also failed to find a publisher. On July 23, the remaining accumulators in New York were destroyed by S.A. Collins and Sons, who had built them.[73]

On August 23, six tons of his books, journals, and papers were burned in the 25th Street public incinerator in New York's lower east side, the Gansevoort incinerator.[74] Among the material destroyed were titles that were supposed only to be banned, including 12,189 copies of the Orgone Energy Bulletin, 6,261 copies of the International Journal of Sex Economy and Orgone Research, 2,900 copies of Emotional Plague Versus Orgone Biophysics, 2,976 copies of Annals of the Orgone Institute, and hardcover copies of several of his books, including The Sexual Revolution, Character Analysis, and The Mass Psychology of Fascism.[19] This action has been cited as one of the worst examples of censorship in U.S. history.[2]

As with the accumulators, the FDA was supposed only to observe the destruction, while his colleagues carried it out. One of them, Victor Sobey, wrote: "All the expenses and labor had to be provided by the [Orgone Institute] Press. A huge truck with three to help was hired. I felt like people who, when they are to be executed, are made to dig their own graves first and are then shot and thrown in. We carried box after box of the literature."[75]
[edit] 1957: Imprisonment and death

On February 10, 1957, Reich signed his last will, naming his daughter, Eva, as his executrix.[76] On March 12, he was sent to Danbury Federal Prison, where Richard C. Hubbard, a psychiatrist who admired Reich, examined him, recording paranoia manifested by delusions of grandiosity, persecution, and ideas of reference:

The patient feels that he has made outstanding discoveries. Gradually over a period of many years he has explained the failure of his ideas in becoming universally accepted by the elaboration of psychotic thinking. "The Rockerfellows (sic) are against me." (Delusion of grandiosity.) "The airplanes flying over prison are sent by the Air Force to encourage me." (Ideas of reference and grandiosity.)[77]

On March 22, he was transferred to the federal penitentiary in Lewisburg, Pennsylvania, where there were better psychiatric facilities, and was examined again. This time, it was decided that he was mentally competent, and that his personality appeared intact, though he might become psychotic under stress.[77] Two days later, on his 60th birthday, he wrote to his son, Peter, then 13:

I am in Lewisburg. I am calm, certain in my thoughts, and doing mathematics most of the time. I am kind of "above things," fully aware of what is up. Do not worry too much about me, though anything might happen. I know, Pete, that you are strong and decent. At first I thought that you should not visit me here. I do not know. With the world in turmoil I now feel that a boy your age should experience what is coming his way—fully digest it without getting a "belly ache," so to speak, nor getting off the right track of truth, fact, honesty, fair play, and being above board—never a sneak. ...[78]

Peter did visit him at Lewisburg several times. Reich told him that he cried a lot, and wanted Peter to let himself cry too, believing that tears are the "great softener." His last letter to his son was on October 22, when he said he was in good spirits, and looking forward to being released on November 10, when he would have served one third of his sentence; a parole hearing had been scheduled for just a few days before. He wrote that he and Peter had a date for a meal at the Howard Johnson

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[CONT]

Reich failed to appear for morning roll call on November 3, and was found dead in his bed at 7 a.m., fully clothed but for his shoes. The prison physician said he had died during the night of "myocardial insufficiency with sudden heart failure."[7] He was buried in a plot of land he had chosen in the woods at Orgonon, in a coffin he had bought a year earlier from a Maine craftsman. He had left instructions that there was to be no religious ceremony, but that a record should be played of Schubert's "Ave Maria" sung by Marian Anderson, and that his granite headstone should read simply: "Wilhelm Reich, Born March 24, 1897, Died ..." Dr. Elsworth F. Baker, a physician friend, said at his funeral, "Once in a thousand years, nay once in two thousand years, such a man comes upon this earth to change the destiny of the human race. As with all great men, distortion, falsehood, and persecution followed him. He met them all, until organized conspiracy sent him to prison and then killed him."[79] A replica of a cloudbuster stands next to his grave, and the building that housed his laboratory is now the Wilhelm Reich Museum.

None of the psychiatric and established scientific journals carried an obituary. Time magazine wrote on November 18, 1957:

Died. Wilhelm Reich, 60, once-famed psychoanalyst, associate and follower of Sigmund Freud, founder of the Wilhelm Reich Foundation, lately better known for unorthodox sex and energy theories; of a heart attack; in Lewisburg Federal Penitentiary, Pa; where he was serving a two-year term for distributing his invention, the "orgone energy accumulator" (in violation of the Food and Drug Act), a telephone-booth-size device that supposedly gathered energy from the atmosphere, and could cure, while the patient sat inside, common colds, cancer, and impotence.[80]

A postmortem FBI chemical analysis report documents formaldehyde poisoning, but lists the cause of death as "unknown."

and this is just from wiki i don't think you've done much research
www.encyclopedianomadica.org...

William M. Connolley, a Climate Modeller employed by the British Antarctic Survey and a gallivanting member of the Wikipedia Science-Purification cabal, argues that Einstein never published his confirmation of the anomalous temperature atop a simple Faraday cage, in a peer-reviewed mainstream scientific publication; and thus, that his name should not be associated with this experiment which Einstein himself performed.

This is part and parcel of a post-modernistic twist of facts, at once a sanctification of science as peer-reviewed by mainstream publications and associated professional or specialist societies, and a demonization of all else that is science - minor, small, independent, alternative, nomadic - which is thrown into the same bucket as everything that is not science, whether it be religion or philosophy, representation or art. This view would proscribe publication of the letters of Einstein as they concerned the Reich-Einstein experiment, just as it would proscribe reference to Alvarez's letter of support for Carezani's Autodynamics, etc. Implicit in this narrow-minded dogmatism, is a revisionism of history and, in particular, of the history of science and technology. One would be led to disregard all the letters, private papers, manuscripts, etc, which all scientists and researchers have written and which serve to guide one through the internal articulation of both their thoughts and actions. And one would disregard all that was subtle and unstable.

The truth is that Einstein was informed that Reich had published 'their affair', the published letter was signed by Einstein, and never contested by Einstein or his legal counsel. So, it was published. That's a fact. Texts do not need to be peer-reviewed to be published. Not even in science. Maybe it should have been published in Nature, but that never happened - nor would it have happened...

Likewise, the Reich-Einstein experiment does not need to have been published by Einstein in a mainstream journal or magazine in order to exist, and be or have been a fact - including the fact of being a fact in the history of science. In his last letter on the subject, Einstein confirmed the existence of the temperature difference. So, his verification of Reich's finding was positive. Einstein could not come up with an explanation for the finding. This is when Infeld (one of those peers...) came up with the interpretation that permitted Einstein to dismiss the finding. Infeld's interpretation has now been shown by the Correas to be experimentally wrong, as they employed further controls that neither Reich, Einstein nor Infeld thought about employing to test Infeld's 'explanation'. This is exactly a case study of what Horrobin (a scholar on the subject for 3 decades, whose scientific study of peer-review was published in a peer-reviewed journal: Trends Pharmacol Sci www.digibio.com...) found for peer-review in mainstream scientific publications. Horrobin described the major disadvantage of mainstream peer-review as an "antagonism to openness and evaluation". An antagonism that refuses to carry out the experimental controls that are required to assert one interpretation over any other. That is, a non-scientific bias or antagonism.

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no need to worry though as POR [positive orgone] is sorta like kryptonite to them, what's more interesting is that when you and your freind tried to confront them they vamoosed

they can look [and huff and puff and threaten to blow your house down], but they cant touch

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The reaction of Officials and how severely they dealt with Wilhelm, speaks volumes. Treated nearly the same as Tesla. They stampede in, steal all the info, make destruction, and leave the genious to flounder then die. It's despicable. It's an age old pattern. But I keep feeling that the PTB's days are numbered, finally, in this long cource of human history, due to the humble internet.
Makes me question what would have been done to Albert Einstein, if he refused to allow the military industrial complex to enjoy his weapon of mass destruction invention. But then, we can easily imagine.

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Oh I get it, so when you're dreaming you're some kind of credible scientist, so this makes your claim something we should seriously consider...... right.... Wait, if the dream world is real and you're a credible scientist doesn't that mean that this claim is only true in dream land? We should put you to sleep for a very long time so you can go to work on this project ASAP !!!

THANNNNNNNNNX !