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U.N small arms treaty: found this in my email

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posted on Nov, 9 2011 @ 11:30 PM
I am sometimes skeptical of anything i read but this is old news apparently. I would like to rehash this story for those who haven't read it before and cite a few articles if I may.united nations office for disarmament affairs

While I hope that the people will not let this happen, I pray that politicians are not bought to the extent that they take the teeth out of our citizens. This next article was in my spam box

Rand Paul: Hillary commits to UN Small Arms Treaty
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Rand Paul: Hillary commits to UN Small Arms Treaty

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Dear agent,

Please find below a special message from our friends at The National Association For Gun Rights. They have some important information to share with you.


Bob Livingston
Editor, Personal Liberty Alerts™
Editor, The Bob Livingston Letter™

Dear fellow Patriot,

Gun-grabbers around the globe believe they have it made.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton recently announced the Obama Administration will be working hand-in-glove with the UN to pass a new "Small Arms Treaty."

Disguised as an "International Arms Control Treaty" to fight against "terrorism," "insurgency" and "international crime syndicates," the UN Small Arms Treaty is in fact a massive, GLOBAL gun control scheme.

I'm helping lead the fight to defeat this radical treaty in the United States Senate and I want your help.

Please join me by taking a public stand against this outright assault on our national sovereignty by signing the Official Firearms Sovereignty Survey.

Ultimately, the UN Small Arms Treaty is designed to register, ban and CONFISCATE firearms owned by private citizens like YOU.

So far, the gun-grabbers have successfully kept the exact wording of their new scheme under wraps.

But looking at previous versions of the UN Small Arms Treaty, you and I can get a good idea of what's likely in the works.

If passed by the UN and ratified by the U.S. Senate, the UN Small Arms Treaty would almost certainly FORCE the U.S. to:
*** Enact tougher licensing requirements, making law-abiding Americans cut through even more bureaucratic red tape just to own a firearm legally;

*** CONFISCATE and DESTROY ALL "unauthorized" civilian firearms (all firearms owned by the government are excluded, of course);

*** BAN the trade, sale and private ownership of ALL semi-automatic weapons;

*** Create an INTERNATIONAL gun registry, setting the stage for full-scale gun CONFISCATION.

I'm sure I don't have to tell you that this is NOT a fight we can afford to lose.

Ever since its founding 65 years ago, the United Nations has been hell-bent on bringing the United States to its knees.

To the petty dictators and one-world socialists who control the UN, the United States of America isn't a "shining city on a hill" -- it's an affront to their grand designs for the globe.

These anti-gun globalists know that so long as Americans remain free to make our own decisions without being bossed around by big government bureaucrats, they'll NEVER be able to seize the worldwide power they crave.

And the UN's apologists also know the most effective way to finally strip you and me of ALL our freedoms would be to DESTROY our gun rights.

That's why I was so glad to hear that the National Association for Gun Rights is leading the fight to stop this assault on our Constitution!

The truth is there's no time to waste.

You and I have to be prepared for this fight to move FAST.

The fact is the last thing the gun-grabbers at the UN and in Washington, D.C. want is for you and me to have time to mobilize gun owners to defeat this radical legislation.

They've made that mistake before, and we've made them pay, defeating EVERY attempt to ram the UN Small Arms Treaty into law since the mid-1990s.

But now time may not be on our side.

In fact, we're likely to only have a few weeks to defeat the treaty when they make their move.

And we definitely don't have a President in the White House who will oppose this treaty.

So our ONE AND ONLY CHANCE to stop the UN Small Arms Treaty is during the ratification process in the U.S. Senate.

As you know, it takes 67 Senate votes to ratify a treaty.

With new pro-gun champions joining me in the Senate, rounding up enough votes to kill this thing should be easy, right?

Unfortunately, that couldn't be further from the truth.

Even with the Republican tidal wave in 2010, there still isn't a pro-gun majority in the Senate to kill ratification of the treaty.

You know just as well as I do how few Senators are truly "pro-gun."

Not only that, but many Senators get "queasy" about killing treaties for fear of "embarrassing" the President -- especially with "international prestige" at stake.

They look at ratifying treaties much like approving the President's Supreme Court nominees.

Remember how many Senators turned their back on us and voted to confirm anti-gun Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor?

A dozen more only voted against Sotomayor after receiving massive grassroots pressure from the folks back home.

So if we're going to defeat the UN Small Arms Treaty gun owners have to turn the heat up on the U.S. Senate now before it's too late!

Do you believe the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the Second Amendment are the supreme law of the land?

Do you believe any attempt by the United Nations to subvert or supersede your Constitutional rights must be opposed?

If you said "Yes" to these questions, please sign the survey the National Association for Gun Rights has prepared for you.

Your survey will put you squarely on the record AGAINST the UN Small Arms Treaty.

And along with your signed survey, I hope you'll send a generous contribution of $250, $100, $50 or even just $35 to help finance this battle.

With your generous contribution, the National Association for Gun Rights will continue contacting Second Amendment supporters to turn up the heat on targeted U.S. Senators.

Not only that, but they're preparing a massive program to launch the second this treaty is brought before the Senate.

Direct mail. Phones. Email. Blogs. Guest editorials. Press conferences. Hard-hitting internet, newspaper, radio and even TV ads if funding permits. The whole nine yards.

Of course, a program of this scale is only possible if the National Association for Gun Rights can raise the money.

But that's not easy, and we may not have much time.

In fact, if gun owners are going to defeat the UN Small Arms Treaty pro-gun Americans like you and me have to get involved NOW!

So please put yourself on record AGAINST the UN Small Arms Treaty by signing NAGR's Firearms Sovereignty Survey.

But along with your survey, please agree to make a generous contribution of $250, $100, $50 or even just $35.

And every dollar counts in this fight so even if you can only chip in $10 or $20, it will make a difference.

Thank you in advance for your time and money devoted to defending our Second Amendment rights.

For Freedom,

Rand Paul
United States Senator

P.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton


posted on Nov, 9 2011 @ 11:43 PM
I did find it odd that that excerpt from my email was signed and endorsed by Rand Paul. I do support Rand but maybe it was the fact that I got this in my email.

I checked into the legality of this treaty and whether or not it would effect our 2nd Amendment or not and came up with a wiki link to the Supreme court ruling

Reid Vs. Covert

I am a little more relaxed on the issue but it still doesn't sit well with me to know that it may still make it HARDER to be a law abiding gun owner.

I hope by rehashing this old issue the newer members can have the added insight into what has been transpiring. If the old argument comes up that this a been there done that already issue on ATS then oh well, Some people don't have the proir knowledge to use the search function for a specific issue that they maybe had no idea about to start a journey and I will give them a starting point. Search funtion is useless unless you are looking for a specific topic and its not like looking at a library with all the titles neatly in your face to choose from. I did use the search function and did find this topic but decided to post anyway.

Thank you for your time. Tarry on Carrion LOL
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posted on Nov, 10 2011 @ 12:13 AM
You just found it in your EMail?

Sort of just finding plans for a nuclear warhead in your email - do you talk to subsequently inefficient terrorists? or just inadequate people who like to plot traps on youi?


posted on Nov, 10 2011 @ 12:35 AM
I appreciate your bringing this here, even though there have been previous discussions on it. Obviously there are differing opinions on whether this is even something to worry about; for instance, I read an NRA article debunking the entire thing.

But here's the important thing: Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.* Treaties are constantly being negotiated in secret--because that's the way fascist corporatists and insecure despotic rulers like to do things. We The People are not allowed to know beforehand what's in them (it's a matter of "National Security," you see). Even if it's a false alarm this time, that doesn't mean that's the end of the matter. Better to agitate a little now than to be horribly surprised later.

(By the way, the Wikipedia article on Reid v. Covert read like absolute gibberish. Every sentence seemed to negate the one preceding it; what the conclusion was--or even the main thrust of the whole thing--was completely lost on me. Someone needs to pre-digest that damn thing and post the salient points for the rest of us.)
*Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty—power is ever stealing from the many to the few…. The hand entrusted with power becomes … the necessary enemy of the people. Only by continual oversight can the democrat in office be prevented from hardening into a despot: only by unintermitted Agitation can a people be kept sufficiently awake to principle not to let liberty be smothered in material prosperity.
ATTRIBUTION: WENDELL PHILLIPS, speech in Boston, Massachusetts, January 28, 1852.

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posted on Nov, 10 2011 @ 12:55 AM

The NRA is not a pro-2nd Amendment organization. They actually WANT more gun laws.

GOA, Gun Owners of America is the only 2nd Amendment Organization.

When Secretary of the Treasury Snow left and went to work for the Carlyle Group and started buying up all the gun makers....he knew where the money would be.

When President Obama was elected he sure stimulated the economy. Every case of ammo sold out, Wal-Mart couldn't keep it's shelves stocked with ammo.....more guns were sold than anytime in US history. Gun makers couldn't keep up with sales.

Even Hippy Leftists went out and bought firearms. They know whats coming.

posted on Nov, 10 2011 @ 07:57 AM
So you just post it here without even checking on it at all? How responsible of you. Was your intention to just spread right wing LIES because that's what you are doing or are you just a wingnut puppet?

Another lie from the right

posted on Nov, 11 2011 @ 01:12 AM
reply to post by damwel

No! heck no! My intention was to draw light to the issue and whether it may resurface again for vote again under another name. My concern is for the Gun owners and the citizens of the U.S having their sovereign rights trampled by international treaties.

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