ATS and OWS: What the heck, ATS?

Their is no new info, on this site. I just joined, and most of the posts on this site seemed to be watered down. Every website you think would be for OWS has shocked me and put up a smear piece. Most people think that OWS is a Democrat movement, but I think they have been pretty clear that they have no political allegiance. Which says volumes when a site posts a smear, because then you know that they are republican.

Yes..

Originally posted by WarminIndy

Originally posted by grubblesnert
It has been my observation that most Humans are:
-never happy and content.
-always feel some one else has it better than them

-feel they are smarter or somehow more clever than the rest of the:
1. sheeple
2. religious
3.athiests
4.people of the opposite sex
5.older people
6. younger people................. and on and on

Most people also:
-always want to point the finger of blame outward
-always want to point the finger of praise at themselves
-will talk a mean game of revolution BUT
-will only take a stand while they sit on their ass
-AND, what I feel is the most pathetic Human trait.......
-get a greater feeling of contentment knowing someone else is worst off than themselves and suffering rather than know that person or group is happy. Even if it means they would also be equally happy (but not happier than that person/group).

Like yourself I come to ATS to see this whole scene play out on a continuous basis.
And take MY stand while I sit on my ass. (like right now!)

If it was anyother way we would be Happy Little Ponies happily playing pianos and not Humans.
They don't call it "Human Nature" for nuthin'

P.S. I like Ponies!

Very excellent answer. While these people are out there throwing temper tantrums, destroying property belonging to others, I wonder how many of those same people are giving up their sleeping bags to really homeless people. It's easy to say it is not fair, when it really is fair, without considering that the people who are homeless and starving have no one who protests for them.

How many of those people throwing temper tantrums would sell their iPods, game systems, computers and do without internet access to raise money for the starving and homeless. Yes, life is unfair, so tweet about it.



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Human nature is true.

without considering that the people who are homeless and starving have no one who protests for them.


Answer
ows is also about homelessness and the people who put these people out of their house
in fact there are a few homeless amongs ows cuz evrybody exept #ing voltures are welcome their
and human nature is true?
lol
for u it is and for u it means i gues kill evrybody that u can cuz thats wat animals[HUMANS for u do,WRIGHT]
well i got news for u buddy
for REAL HUMANS it means somthing else
like showin compassion to peolple who are weaker then u cuz u realize them could have easily been u
loving sharing and enjoying the precious gift of life we were all given
and thats about it for now

I don't understand what the author of this thread is whining about?
The OWS proclaim to the world that they are the 99% and they are against the 1%, so I pose the obvious question.....

Why and how can you possibly want more support? The only ones left according to OWS is the evil 1% that they are against and want no part of.

Could it be that the author secretly realizes that as an OWS supporter the propaganda is a reverse lie, as all good propaganda is? That OWS is really only the fringe 1% and that they need to actually try to convince people to become a part of their movement, that the 99% proclamation is nothing but a big meaningless lie?

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I really have to agree! If they really did represent the goals and desired ends of the 99% rather than just the FAR left... they would not have anything to complain about as the entire country would be behind them; at least the way I learned math that is how it works.

I do feel sorry for the truly sincere protestors though. All the socialists, communists, union activists can go take a flying leap as far as I am concerned. They certainly don't represent me, anyone I know or the interests of my local peers. Occupy my town would go over like a turd in a punch bowl with 99% of the local population. If crime started going up because of them... The REAL 99% would make sure they regretted it. But then that is one of the goals of this hijacked movement. Stir violence

They aren't even close to representing 99%... of anything

I'm willing to bet most of the ATS posters complaining about non-support of the 'Occupy' movement had/have their reservations about the Tea Party movement, and probably didn't get involved in that.

I speak as an outsider, as this movement hasn't gained as much traction outside of America. But to me it reeks of either Problem-Reaction-Solution or safety-valve agenda. In short, just because we're desperate for an alternative to this corrupt global system doesn't mean we should trust every 'revolution' that comes along. If you're naive enough to believe that TPTB don't have their contingency plans in place against genuine dissent - and that this could be one of them - then you probably don't realise how much is at stake.

How do we know when a movement is a genuine threat to TPTB? Well, for a start it won't be allowed to 'occupy' for several weeks like this one has.

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Excellent thread OP. You have illustrated my feelings towards ats precisely. I have been a lurker for years before signing up to witness a severe turn towards authoritarian cheerleading and blatant disinformation supported by many mods and even higher in rank. Very sad that a forum I liked so much has declined in this manner.

I know this thread is already so long that nobody is reading the responses anymore but i wanted to keep it alive for a minute longer.

I totally agree. I even quit visiting ATS for a while because of it. How could so many people from a website dedicated to exposeing the truth be so upset that people were taking to the streets to wake up the world and expose the truth.

Since Occupy began I have participated in several of the local occupy sites and have plans to visit several more. I have marched in an occasional protest and lended as much support as I was able to the movement. It is amazing how much different Occupy is in real life than what you are being spoonfed by the lamestream media and their slaves.

Go visit your nearest Occupy site and you will see for yourself...

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Wanted to star your opening post but ATS wouldn't let me.

Surprise, surprise.

Video below is David Icke talks with Luke Rudkowski of We Are Change New York at Occupy Wall Street - Excellent Interview. Luke is a journalist and is telling it like it is.

FYI: Anyone blasting OWS, if you yourself have not spent at least 48 hours at one, you don't know $hit. We attended OWS in one of the largest cities and found the people, clean, polite, dedicated, and decent.

Those that say other wise simply haven't probably been to one, nor have they done adequate research as to what TPTB really have intended for us.

Walking Fox, the people for the most part, including on ATS are asleep and mind controlled.

Most don't even realize they are enslaved, imprisoned and life could be different if only the majority of people would wake up.





Listen to the spin the media (owned by five large corporations) puts on OWS at 12:00 in the video.

A prisoner that has no idea he/she is imprisoned will never try to escape.

A slave that does not realize they are enslaved, will never rebel.

And who is are the mighty and great wizards behind the curtain, the few that are able to control the many.

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Winning what?

Equality for the entire human race and not just the 1%.

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Starred.

And yes, I left and returned to ATS but intend to leave or visit here less often.

I suspect one of five things with many of the repliers on ATS at present.

1- Sleepers in the Matrix
2- Mind conditioned with all the propaganda and not even aware their thoughts are not their own
3- Know it alls. Usually people who haven't really read or researched deeply into our current world situation
4-Closed minded and proud hearts.
5-ATS is if I'm not mistaken, is the largest conspiracy site on the world wide web. That makes this site a very very valuable commodity for the haves (the 1%). How they work is like a cancer, they infiltrate into the core and eat their way outward. Many aren't even aware they are working by their heartless and ignorant posts for the forces bent on destroying the 99% as well as our planet.

ATS has changed over the years, drastically. A lot more younger people that do not read, do not research, do not explore what is really going on and yet think they know it all.

How can one really know WTH is going on if they haven't researched as much data as possible.

Most people, watch the news on TV (corporate owned propaganda), read the newspaper (corporate propaganda), yak endlessly on their cells, play with their video games, read fantasy novels or club............they are purposely distracted and not even aware of it.



And the trolling, the nasty proof this, proof that - one just has to look around at all the madness going on all over the planet today to realize somethings not right.

But taking that red pill is a twitch.........once you take it, there's no going back.

More people world wide are waking up...................but not many of the ones posting on ATS.

And yes, we went to OWS, made some friends with people who are educated, awake, aware and decent.

I also service the homeless...............and as each year passes we are seeing more and more what once was the middle class.

If we are not careful. If we do not openly rebel, America will become a third world country.

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for REAL HUMANS it means somthing else like showin compassion to peolple who are weaker then u cuz u realize them could have easily been u

thebestnr1................Excellent post.

Most "successful" people think they got to where they are at, all by their hard work.

Yes, most are "successful" because they did work hard...................however, sometimes, many times life throws some curve balls at ya that are out of your hands.

Can a person born with a IQ of 100 (average) help that he/she does not have a IQ of 130?

Can a person born and raised in poverty, abuse or a war torn country help they were put down into this particular situation?

Case in point, my doctor mentioned the American Dream................I did it all on my own.

But, he was born into a middle class family, went to a middle class school, in a country that has not seen war upon it's soil for over 150 years.

Water when you turn on a faucet, never going to bed hungry, a soft warm bed, medical care when sick, a dentist, modern school books, a school bus that now has to stop at ever corner because heaven forbid a kid has to walk a few blocks, a country where many still have central heating, air conditioning, TV, available books, not having to walk five miles to get a couple buckets of water that is marginally clean. More knowledge in a PC / on the net than in most libraries.

So many people that "have" think they did it all on their own.............again, yes many did work hard and were able to discipline themselves (ADHD, do the research) - The part of the brain that dictates and helps one self control them self is broken...........is that their fault? No it's faulty genes, compromised DNA resulting in a brain that is not functioning at optimum capacity.

And yes, there is a element of luck, being born, raised and appearing in the right place at the right time and knowing how to take advantage of opportunities that arise.

What most people so arrogantly believe is "I did it all on my own" not considering all the luck that played into their life and but for one medical issue, one job loss, one major "set back" they too are close (unless they have millions of dollars) very close to the edge like the rest of us.

Now with animals, like chickens, squirrels, etc...............the weaker ones, the stupid ones, the malformed ones are killed by predators or even members of their own kind.

As humans, we have always thought of ourselves as above the other inhabitants of this planet, particularly the Christians who say, love love love............aren't we suppose to be more merciful and help those less fortunate?

There are two types of people in my opinion:

Service to self = Kick a man when he's down - Take advantage of or ignore those less fortunate, they deserve it.

Service to others = Help someone when their down - Realize that but for the grace of God, I could find myself in this very situation.

Most people simply don't see the big picture because they are too focused on their own little me, myself and I world.

We are all interconnected, profoundly and deeply and what affects one of us will eventually affect all of us.

Wish I could give you 100 stars for your excellent contribution.

OWS again is fighting for equality and justice for all.