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Iran's right to a pre-emptive strike

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posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 09:44 PM
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With all the recent headlines its very hard to keep up. The news about the Greek referendum came about the same time as 'the calls for a strike' on Iran. Maybe it was a diversion but one thing is for sure, energy is shifting. When Israel raised the War Flag and called for a strike, her allies from the other side of the world answered.

America is not leaving Iraq, 45thousand troops will remain in Iraq. Around 90thousand in Afghanistan and loads of missiles, bombs, jets, and ships and carriers. Militarily they are strong. Economically they are screwed. But before America goes down, it must ensure Israels supremacy over the Middle East. They (Zionists & Elites) agreed on the terms. It was intended to be the perfect plan sealed by Lucifer himself.



Report: U.K. preparing for military strike on Iran nuclear facilities

Of course, Iran as always had something to say back. Iranian Foreign minister Ali Akbar Saleh took the mission to do so. In a visit to Benghazi he gave a quite long speech of which 'Iran is ready for war' was picked out by the western media.



In inflammatory remarks certain to fuel uncertainty in the volatile region, Ali Akbar Salehi warned that Tehran would ‘not hesitate’ to retaliate if attacked. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...


Iran is ready to defend herself 'if' attacked would have been the honest headline.

But things aren't looking too bright for Iran. The vital Syrian ally is struggling with its own affairs and is drifting away. This makes supplies and communications even harder with Hezbollah; and the elite Quds force in the region. Its very hard for Iran to get involved in Syria. Iran is not an Arabic country, Iran can make all kinds of economic deals with the Arabs but Iran can not interfere in Arab affairs, Bahrain was an example. Even worse for Iran, the Arab league is now involved in Syria.

Syria Agrees to Arab League Plan to End Crackdown

It was clear that the protesters couldn't topple the Assad Rule alone and they needed support, The Arab League was glad to help. Part of the agreement is a meeting with the opposition leaders in Cairo to discuss the situation. Another part is to pull the security and armed forces off the streets and end the crackdown. The Syrian opposition already has a 15 thousand man army waiting in Turkey, a highly skilled division that is capable of sabotage, ambush and assassinations. It is claimed that the division is made up of Syrian Army deserters. They publicly announced to committing violence against security forces and pro-Assad protesters.



An insurgent army which claims to be up to 15,000 strong is being coordinated from Turkey to take on President Bashar al-Assad of Syria, which risks plunging the region into open warfare.




The national "Syrian Free Army" aims to be the "military wing of the Syrian people's opposition to the regime", its leader told The Daily Telegraph from a heavily guarded camp in eastern Turkey.


15,000 strong' army gathers to take on Syria

The Assad Regime will forever regret the decision to involve the Arab League and accept the agreement. Now the opposition will have a stronghold, a headquarters, a base to operate from.. Now Bashar will have to answer to the Arab League and European Union on every move.

Syria protests across the country aim to test regime's pledge to end crackdown


Activists inside Syria and in exile say the state's backing of an Arab League plan to stop seven months of violence will be tested over the weekend with demonstrators attending rallies across the country. The European Union also called on Damascus to honour the terms of the Arab League deal, which president Bashar al-Assad's government said it would implement in full.


Syria Killed at Least 12, Opposition Says, Despite Deal to End Violence

What happens next in Syria is very critical to the whole region, with Syria in shambles it isolates Iran. There's one two way out of this, attack first or get attacked. If Iran attacks first, which they have a right to do since the public threats against them it would look as if they started the war. It might work in their favour, but its very risky.

The Idea would be to spearhead through Southern Iraq and through Kuwait as well as amphibious landings on Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States and holding the oil as ransom. But this action will be internationally condemned, not in Iran's favour. An invasion of Iraq and military access through Syria is more plausible. It is best to keep the GCC (Gulf Cooperation Council) out of the conflict for as long as possible.

Turkey is another big player in the region as of recently, Turkey has no interest in attacking or supporting any kind of attack on Iran. Turkey and Iran would have the 'borders demilitarised if it wasn't for the PKK' they claim. However Turkey is interested in Syria. Turkey is also interested in Iraq and so is Iran. The Turks want more control and more influence over the region. Other than that it is very unclear of what Turkey intends for its role. Iran could agree to partition Iraq with Turkey, northern Iraq is rich with oil. Turkey and Iran have been using Iraq as a weapons testing and training site.

Iran has two choices here, either abandon the nuclear program completely, or protect it. It doesn't make sense to wait for them to destroy the facilities and then strike. If its the Nuclear program they're fighting for then they must protect it. Their best bet would be a shock attack through the American-Iraqi defences in Iraq, and quickly into Syria towards Israel forcing peace. This could mess up, they need air superiority and a lot of mobility. Fast and clean. The sooner Iran acts the better, It will be a clear pre-emptive strike, the world will see it as one.
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posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 09:53 PM
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Your thread has many contradicting factors. All of those supposed friends of Iran are not.
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posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 09:55 PM
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I THINK you are forgetting US's LARGEST ally in the region..

The Iraqi Military.

US has trained, armed and funded them for almost a decade. They owe you; especially if their interests get attacked.



posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 09:57 PM
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PS: Also what you are stating is an impossibility. Umm Iran massing troops and having them move through other countries? You dont think this would be seen via satellite reconnascence? No way dude. There is not much Iran can do outside of launching a bunch of missiles by surprise. Thats it. Sorry. Anything else such as troop, armor, naval moves would be seen as soon as it takes place and it would be hit ASAP.
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posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 10:01 PM
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If Isreal keeps flauting the notion to the right for a pre emptive strike against Iran for security purposes.
EVERY single near by country has the right to pre emp that pre empt becuase according to A LOT of people Isreal is the number one threat to security in the region.



posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 10:02 PM
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45,000 Soldiers are to be retained in Iraq? What blog did you pull that number from? It's total BS.

Obamas plan is to have all military, with the exception of Embassy personnel, pulled out by years end.

There will be however a large number of troops in Kuwait and off shore.



posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 10:04 PM
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Having the right and having the ability are 2 different things bro!!! See my post above.


Originally posted by Vardoger
If Isreal keeps flauting the notion to the right for a pre emptive strike against Iran for security purposes.
EVERY single near by country has the right to pre emp that pre empt becuase according to A LOT of people Isreal is the number one threat to security in the region.



posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 10:04 PM
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Originally posted by CALGARIAN
I THINK you are forgetting US's LARGEST ally in the region..

The Iraqi Military.

US has trained, armed and funded them for almost a decade. They owe you; especially if their interests get attacked.



USA invaded Iraq illegally, killed thousands of innocent civilians & children & you say "they owe" hahahahah, that was worthy of a good morning laugh



posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 10:04 PM
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Maybe Israel is trying to get Iran to strike. I mean if a country (Israel) was openly talking about a need to preemptively strike you (Iran), wouldn't you think maybe you should do it to them first? I think Israel is trying to goad Iran into a strike.



posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 10:06 PM
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They now have access to a Rothschild controlled central bank as well as cutting edge wepaons. Id say Iraq is "IN". If they arent, then where is their support for their Iranian brethren? Trust me, they didnt forget what happened 30 years ago either.



Originally posted by Burgo1010

Originally posted by CALGARIAN
I THINK you are forgetting US's LARGEST ally in the region..

The Iraqi Military.

US has trained, armed and funded them for almost a decade. They owe you; especially if their interests get attacked.



USA invaded Iraq illegally, killed thousands of innocent civilians & children & you say "they owe" hahahahah, that was worthy of a good morning laugh

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posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 10:12 PM
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the right for iran to pre-emptive strike has passed a long time ago. the united states and israel have been saying they're going to attack iran for years now.

but that's what they want, to goad them into attacking first, justifying a full fledge u.n. backed invasion.

iran is to smart for that. they know they can't beat the united states in a conventional army to army war.

instead iranian generals have been exercising and planning for the last 4 years in unconventional guerrilla warfare. they have divided the country into fully armed and fully trained autonomous provinces, each with decentralized military commanders.

trained, armed and ready with organized guerilla and insurgency tactics and strategy designed specifically for american and ally troops.

they will allow a successful invasion and turn the whole country into a giant fallujah. it will be a massacre. they'll be shooting down apaches like flies. every house would be booby trapped, professionally armed and reliable ieds all over the place, every room with organized iranians, equipped with body armor and advanced weapons waiting for you to open the door. fanatical "martyrs" driving all over the place with car bombs looking for american patrols.

every city will be a death trap.

don't be fooled into joining the military. cnn will of course air that america has successfully landed in tehran, but thats just the beginning of a long, brutal and bloody and carefully planned war.




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posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by princeofpeace
They now have access to a Rothschild controlled central bank as well as cutting edge wepaons. Id say Iraq is "IN". If they arent, then where is their support for their Iranian brethren? Trust me, they didnt forget what happened 30 years ago either.



Originally posted by Burgo1010

Originally posted by CALGARIAN
I THINK you are forgetting US's LARGEST ally in the region..

The Iraqi Military.

US has trained, armed and funded them for almost a decade. They owe you; especially if their interests get attacked.



USA invaded Iraq illegally, killed thousands of innocent civilians & children & you say "they owe" hahahahah, that was worthy of a good morning laugh

edit on 3-11-2011 by princeofpeace because: (no reason given)


Strategically & long term it would be the most stupid thing to do, Lets not forget who sold Iraq it's chemical weapons during that war 30 years ago (Then hung Saddam 20 years later for using them) .... this is just more USA "Do as we say, your with us or against us Bullsh*t ...
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posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 10:25 PM
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Actually someone brought up a good point. Iraq has been primed by the US and would be a strong ally. But not for the reasons you may think. As much as an Iraq Citizen may hate the western states they hate Iran more. Maybe this was part of a greater plan?



posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 10:28 PM
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Originally posted by CALGARIAN
I THINK you are forgetting US's LARGEST ally in the region..

The Iraqi Military.

US has trained, armed and funded them for almost a decade. They owe you; especially if their interests get attacked.


Or bullied them into siding with you, depending on which reality you wish to face.



posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 10:29 PM
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You know.. that's really not fair the more that I think about it.
They say that we live in fear because of terrorists, but we don't. Imagine your fear if you lived in a country that had two nuclear armed countries constantly threatening to preemptively strike! That kinda sucks for the innocent population of Iran.



posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
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You know.. that's really not fair the more that I think about it.
They say that we live in fear because of terrorists, but we don't. Imagine your fear if you lived in a country that had two nuclear armed countries constantly threatening to preemptively strike! That kinda sucks for the innocent population of Iran.


you are correct, sadly war mongers do not care



posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 10:56 PM
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You know what, im going to star and flag this, because with the stuff you just posted in the OP. It makes for a very good point and ties together nicely. As much as it angers me that this is happening...i think you are correct on your information you posted and your thoughts combined.
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posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 11:01 PM
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Originally posted by TDawgRex
45,000 Soldiers are to be retained in Iraq? What blog did you pull that number from? It's total BS.

Obamas plan is to have all military, with the exception of Embassy personnel, pulled out by years end.

There will be however a large number of troops in Kuwait and off shore.


If only it were O'BomB'a's Plan, i believe last i heard is was a Legal document before Obama was President,



posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 11:55 PM
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The concept revolves around Irans Nuclear program. To fight a defensive war means to allow the enemy to strike within. Iran spent time, money, and resources developing their nuclear program. It will be very unwise to sit back on the defensive and watch it all get blown up.



posted on Nov, 3 2011 @ 11:58 PM
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Originally posted by CALGARIAN
I THINK you are forgetting US's LARGEST ally in the region..

The Iraqi Military.

US has trained, armed and funded them for almost a decade. They owe you; especially if their interests get attacked.




They don't owe us nothing but an illegal occupation, destroyed infrastructure and history, and an 8 year ass whooping!! LOL



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